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Sigh, can anyone give me any advice on this tub? (pictures)
    #27833162 - 06/23/22 05:17 PM (1 day, 21 hours ago)

Any ideas as to why my tub looks the way it does?

FC for 6 days now. The blue discoloration was due to misting to close, very blue in person. It looks like a light tan color to the surface with some stroma maybe? My RH has been between 95-99. Roughly 73f. The smell is of fresh mushrooms.

I have no clue, any advice would be wonderful!





Edited by iceforeal (06/23/22 05:23 PM)


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Re: Sigh, can anyone give me any advice on this tub? [Re: iceforeal]
    #27833169 - 06/23/22 05:23 PM (1 day, 21 hours ago)

That looks like it is being loved to death. Cycling between too dry and too much misting will cause that matting of the myc ime. I could be wrong, but I would put the lid on and leave it alone for a few days to see what is does. Fair chance it will start popping some pins yet.

It is easy to care too much on the first grows.


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Re: Sigh, can anyone give me any advice on this tub? [Re: ReverendMyc]
    #27833173 - 06/23/22 05:25 PM (1 day, 21 hours ago)

I had read something like that on an "as close to mine as i could find post." But it wasnt exactly mine, Thank you!


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Re: Sigh, can anyone give me any advice on this tub? [Re: iceforeal]
    #27833235 - 06/23/22 06:17 PM (1 day, 20 hours ago)

What was your process? What tek did you follow? What are the timelines?


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Re: Sigh, can anyone give me any advice on this tub? [Re: The Tao]
    #27833335 - 06/23/22 07:26 PM (1 day, 19 hours ago)

Prebought grain bags and substrate bags from midwestgrowkits. I just inocd then let it colonize then mixed with substrate and let that colonize. Then put it in FC 6 days ago. Fanning and misting as much as every video says to do. 6 monotub holes 1.5inch. Polyfil. The room also has a fan in it.


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Re: Sigh, can anyone give me any advice on this tub? [Re: iceforeal]
    #27833478 - 06/23/22 08:51 PM (1 day, 18 hours ago)

Bacteria of some sort is my best guess. It's starting to get that lumpy, slimey look to it. The more you open the tub, the higher the chance of letting in a contam. Also, it doesn't look like you're using a liner.  Aside from keeping the light off your substrate, they also (I think) help keep excess moisture from soaking your substrate and causing a cesspool of crap at the bottom of the tub, which ultimately works its way upward.

I purchased 4 bags from the same vendor...all of them ended up buried in the yard. I'm a noob, so user error could have def been my issue.  I'm done with mono until I know what I'm doing tho...wasted almost 4 months trying to get a HUGE FLUSH, only to end up with nothing. I assume you're also a noob? You should check out the BRF and SAB teks if you haven't already done so.  Seems to be much more noob-proof/friendly.

If you want to salvage your strain, take a few morsels from your tub, seal in ziplock, and throw them in the fridge to stall the growth. Come back to them once you get set up with agar. Don't wait too long on that tho, everything goes bad eventually.

Good luck (to both of us)!


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Re: Sigh, can anyone give me any advice on this tub? [Re: zilker]
    #27833587 - 06/23/22 10:01 PM (1 day, 17 hours ago)

I am using a liner, check side shadows, and there hasn't been any moisture on the bottom (clear liner on bottom for this reason.) It looks slimy due it being matted (stroma i believe) and having just sprayed it + the photo is somehow bad just to add insult to injury.


Edited by iceforeal (06/23/22 10:04 PM)


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Re: Sigh, can anyone give me any advice on this tub? [Re: zilker]
    #27833600 - 06/23/22 10:09 PM (1 day, 17 hours ago)

and thanks for the help, sorry i didnt include it i was busy!:cool:


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Re: Sigh, can anyone give me any advice on this tub? [Re: iceforeal]
    #27833686 - 06/23/22 11:03 PM (1 day, 16 hours ago)

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iceforeal said:
Prebought grain bags and substrate bags from midwestgrowkits. I just inocd then let it colonize then mixed with substrate and let that colonize. Then put it in FC 6 days ago. Fanning and misting as much as every video says to do. 6 monotub holes 1.5inch. Polyfil. The room also has a fan in it.




IMO you should unsubscribe from any video telling you to fan or mist on a schedule.  Stop fanning completely and allow your tub to manage the FAE passively.  Between the forced drying and forced hydration cycles, you have a tore up surface which will likely mess up pinsets.  This is what your surface should look like when your FAE is dialed in and you use FC substrate.

Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE

Can you get a good picture of the surface conditions?


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Re: Sigh, can anyone give me any advice on this tub? [Re: PBJ710]
    #27833863 - 06/24/22 02:15 AM (1 day, 12 hours ago)

Yeah it just said mist when surface conditions don't look like that post. I can get a better pic and ill be posting it next. It wasn't really a video but the r/shroomers subreddit some guides, but then I found here!

ty all and ill update photos here!!!

For people who may come in the future:

I'm leaving it alone with the lid on, I've come to the conclusion that I was just over caring. It probably would have been fine if I never even touched it! So if you're here in the future and are reading this and you see yours looking like mine, there you go check below for updates on if I can salvage it.


Edited by iceforeal (06/24/22 02:37 AM)


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Re: Sigh, can anyone give me any advice on this tub? [Re: iceforeal]
    #27833870 - 06/24/22 02:38 AM (1 day, 12 hours ago)

hey guys here are some better surface condition photos as requested by @PBJ710

 


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Re: Sigh, can anyone give me any advice on this tub? [Re: iceforeal]
    #27833905 - 06/24/22 03:58 AM (1 day, 11 hours ago)

The photo quality does not seem to follow up on here so here is imgur links to the more close up SC shots:



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Re: Sigh, can anyone give me any advice on this tub? [Re: iceforeal]
    #27833969 - 06/24/22 07:42 AM (1 day, 7 hours ago)

Bumping for the am crowd to see if there is any input. I'm sure people in the future stumbling on this will love it... and me too


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Re: Sigh, can anyone give me any advice on this tub? [Re: iceforeal] * 1
    #27834015 - 06/24/22 08:39 AM (1 day, 6 hours ago)



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Re: Sigh, can anyone give me any advice on this tub? [Re: The Tao]
    #27834017 - 06/24/22 08:42 AM (1 day, 6 hours ago)

Perfect way to tell me, thanks for the info!!


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Re: Sigh, can anyone give me any advice on this tub? [Re: iceforeal]
    #27834023 - 06/24/22 08:49 AM (1 day, 6 hours ago)

The surface looks really dry from that picture - you will need to mist/bottom water it to rehydrate it.  I like the hair stylists' ultra fine mister for situations like that so you won't damage the surface more.  If you use a normal mister, spray it above the tub and let the mist fall into the tub.


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Re: Sigh, can anyone give me any advice on this tub? [Re: PBJ710]
    #27834029 - 06/24/22 08:54 AM (1 day, 6 hours ago)

Quote:

PBJ710 said:
The surface looks really dry from that picture - you will need to mist/bottom water it to rehydrate it.  I like the hair stylists' ultra fine mister for situations like that so you won't damage the surface more.  If you use a normal mister, spray it above the tub and let the mist fall into the tub.





I actually use one of those. Yet somehow I manage! Do you think I should give her a nice hard misting? If so how much? I usually go like 5sec at full pump over the top about 4ft facing horizontal so it falls down gently.


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Re: Sigh, can anyone give me any advice on this tub? [Re: iceforeal]
    #27834035 - 06/24/22 09:07 AM (1 day, 6 hours ago)

Mist it until it holds the moisture bubbles in that guide.  If it dries up in an hour or two, repeat until the moisture stays.  It might help to restrict FAE to the tub a bit more than normal (temporarily) to help keep the moisture from just evaporating out of the tub.  Once it will hold moisture you can start increasing FAE a bit.


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Re: Sigh, can anyone give me any advice on this tub? [Re: PBJ710]
    #27834048 - 06/24/22 09:24 AM (1 day, 5 hours ago)

Perfect way to tell me thanks for the info!!
Quote:

PBJ710 said:
Mist it until it holds the moisture bubbles in that guide.  If it dries up in an hour or two, repeat until the moisture stays.  It might help to restrict FAE to the tub a bit more than normal (temporarily) to help keep the moisture from just evaporating out of the tub.  Once it will hold moisture you can start increasing FAE a bit.




Yay or nay on misting up close to the tub walls around the edges so water goes straight to the bottom?


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Re: Sigh, can anyone give me any advice on this tub? [Re: iceforeal]
    #27834061 - 06/24/22 09:44 AM (1 day, 5 hours ago)

Mist evenly from above and let it fall to the surface of the substrate.  If you focus the mist on walls, the middle will still be dry but the edges will be wet.


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