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Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) *Not just for stones any more 22
#27829033 - 06/20/22 05:45 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Stoned Gummys tek(Gummies from sclerotia or mushrooms) ***New and improved / Not just for stones anymore***
  
Here is how I am making gummies from stones. Works great for regular shrooms as well (Still perfecting myceliated subtropicalis grain, poor results with wheat so far). I like gummies because they are are portable and easy to handle. They don't melt like chocolate or seem to cause any stomach upset like fresh stones can. They come on quick and then also seem to end in about 2 to 2.5 hours or you can eat more to extend the trip out all day, ime. I have tried these over 12 months after preparing without a detectable loss of potency.
I have found that people are very receptive to gummies who would otherwise balk at doing psychedelics and I love to spread the love. I also recognize that there is a risk that this and other forms of active edibles could lead to some accidental ingestion that has the potential to cause bad press for our cause. So do please use extreme caution in controlling access to any edibles that could be mistaken for something non-active.
Without further ado, here is the recipe followed by a more detailed write up below. (because I hate that recipe web pages always have ten feet of a stupid back story before getting to the fucking point.)I will keep updating the main post and comments as I find improvements. Latest updates will be in yellow text. ~1g dose per gummy recipe (0.5g to 2g depending on starting material weight and mold size - see below) 126 gummy cubes - 1g fresh stones/gummy ~= 0.25g dry tamp Tools- gummy molds - 126 cubes = 1 cup = 2ml per cube
- Strainer and/or brewer's bag/cheese cloth
- medium-large sauce pan
- dehydrator (variable temp or modified or just a fan in a pinch)
- Heat resistant mixing bowl or second sauce pan
- stick or regular blender
Ingredients- 150g to 300g stones (or 75g to 150g dried mush) (or 500g to 1000g myceliated subtropicalis grain spawn) - includes a little extra for losses
- 3 cups water
- 1/2 cup corn syrup
- 1/2 tsp Potassium Sorbate (optional)
- 1 tbsp citric acid
(optional)
- 4g agar agar (Living Jin brand if possible)
- 2 3oz Jello brand or 2 6.78 (oz EZ-Squeeze Jello Shot mix Blue Mai Tai or any flavor)
- 4 pkg/tbsp gelatin unflavored
- Non-stick oil spray (Pam)
STEPS - dice fresh stones
- add stones to 2 cups water in sauce pan and bring to boil
- use stick blender while heating to whip stones/mushrooms to a thin well blended slurry (If you don't have a stick blender see below)
- bring blended mixture to boil then reduce to fast simmer
- boil down to 1 cup liquid; adding water if reductions takes less than 30 minutes
- strain mushrooms squeezing to get as much liquid as possible in the mixing bowl or another sauce pan
- OPTIONAL: do a double decoction - repeat three steps above with left over mush and 1 cup water for 20 minutes
- combine teas and simmer to reduce strained liquid down to 1/2 to 3/4 cup of strong mushroom tea
- chill mushroom tea in ice bath
- add 1/2 cup corn syrup
- add 1/4 tsp potassium sorbate (optional)
- add 4 grams agar agar
- add 1 tbsp citric acid
- add 2 3oz Jello mixes OR 2 6.78 oz EZ-Squeeze Jello Shot mix
- add 4 packets or 4 tbsp of unflavored gelatin over chilled tea and do NOT stir
- allow candy mixture to sit for 5 mins
- slowly reheat mushroom tea in saucepan stirring gently just until all ingredients dissolve
- spray molds lightly with oil spray
- pour into molds on cookie sheets
- allow gummy molds to cool until solid enough to move without spilling
- refrigerate 1 hour or more
- spray dehydrator screen lightly with non-stick oil spray
- remove from molds and place pieces spaced out on non-stick screens for dehydrator
- allow to cure at room temperature for 24 hours
- place in dehydrator at 95F/35c for 2 hours
- check frequently for any signs of melting
- flip each and continue to dehydrate for 1 hour
- they should feel dry and no longer be sticky at all. If not, flip each and dehydrate as needed.
- place in air tight container and refrigerate for long term storage.
*************************************************** Detailed instructions Okay now for too much detail with pictures and links.
This will work for stones or any variety or species of active shrooms, fresh or dried. You just have to work out your doses and get the final "tea" reduced down to a volume of ~1 cup (~250 ml).
gummy molds - 126 cubes = 1 cup = 2ml per cube I have used a couple of different gummy molds but found the cubes to be easiest to work with. (Update: the other fun shapes are fine once I started using the non-stick spray)
   P.S. Don't use a whisk, use a wooden spoon instead. Whisk will cause undesirable bubbles or foam. amazon link to molds I used
You will need to do some calculating to work out the dose per gummy. It will be the amount of mush that you use divided by the number of gummies that you make. But the total volume of your molds will determine how far 1 cup/250 ml will go. In one stone batch, I ran out short of using the whole mold tray, so mine are a bit stronger than planned. On the next mushroom batch, I ended up going over a bit. I also generally go a little high on the weight of mush to account for losses in the process.
I used 192g of fresh stones in this mold of 126 2 ml cubes expecting to get about 1.5g per gummy. It should have held about a cup of gummy mix in that batch, but I came up a bit short so they are a little bit stronger. On the shroom batch, I did 75g of dried Tampanensis that ended up making 157 gummy cubes for slightly less than a half gram dose per gummy cube.
  dice fresh stones or fresh mushrooms or crumble dried mushrooms Chop them up enough to make it easy for the blender to do the real work. If you are using dried mushrooms, simply crumbling them up is sufficient.
 
add stones or mushrooms to 2 cups water in sauce pan and bring to boil In a medium to large saucepan put your diced stones and 2 cups/500ml water and turn on heat. If you are using fresh mushrooms, you can use less water, because the mush will be providing a lot of its own.
 
use stick blender while heating to whip stones or mushrooms to a thin well blended slurry Stones definitely will be extremely weak if you don't grind them pretty fine for boiling. It is not as important for mushrooms. If you don't have a stick blender, put the stones or mushrooms in a standard blender with water before heating in the saucepan.

bring blended mixture to boil Optionally, 2 or 3 drops of vegetable oil will reduce foaming and help prevent boil over but watch your heat closely or it WILL boil over. Don't be lazy and lose half of you hard earned work to boil over. Not that I have ever done that <twice>
boil down to 1 cup liquid; adding water if reductions takes less than 30 minutes Once it starts boiling, reduce heat to a good rolling simmer. Keep uncovered. You want to allow the steam to boil off to reduce the mush tea down to about 1 cup of liquid. This should take over 30 minutes but if not, add water to keep it simmering for 30 minutes.
strain mushrooms squeezing to get as much liquid as possible in the mixing bowl or another sauce pan I like these pitchers for receiving and measuring, but any heat resistant bowl or pan will work. Amazon link to pitchers They are also great for pouring agar plates without burning your fingers. I use a strainer and brewer's bag, but cheese cloth or similar will work. I also use tongs to squeeze the mush in the bag to get the most liquid possible (also without burning my fingers.)
   
OPTIONAL: do a double decoction - repeat three steps above with left over mush and 1 cup water for at least 20 minutes Set the first liquid tea aside and put the squeezed mush back into the saucepan with 1 cup/250ml water. Bring it to a boil as before for 20 minutes. Then repeat the straining and squeezing. The squeezed mush can be discarded now.
combine teas and simmer to reduce strained liquid down to 1/2 to 3/4 cup of strong mushroom tea Return the tea to the saucepan and simmer to reduce it to about 1/2 to 3/4 cup/125 to 180 ml. If you go below 1/2 cup, add water to make up the difference however, you don't want to be much over 3/4 cup or they will not set up well. This has been updated to offset for using corn syrup versus sugar.
Chill mushroom tea in an ice bath Make an ice bath in a larger pan and float the smaller pan in it until the tea is chilled. I recommend the ice bath over the fridge. One reason is because minimizing the time between making the tea and binding it in the Jello greatly improves the flavor. The another is anecdotal but it seems that the actives begin to break down and lose strength until bound with the other dry ingredients.
  This takes minutes instead of hours when compared with cooling in a refrigerator. I used an IR temperature gun to confirm it got down to 36f/2c in a few minutes, but all you need to do is get the tea cool to touch.
add 1/2 cup corn syrup Stir until dissolved. I changed to corn syrup from granulated sugar to get a better haribo-like texture. The idea is that corn syrup is a starch made up of a chain of glucose molecules that are smaller than sugar molecules. This string of glucose molecules gets between the sucrose molecules and effectively interrupts the formation of sugar crystals. So the upshot is that the corn syrup in gummies helps them stay soft and chewy. My first batches with sugar started out pretty good but became more crystalized and hard over time.

add 1/4 tsp potassium sorbate (optional, especially if you are using the EZ-Squeeze) This is a food safe, flavorless mold inhibitor and antimicrobial. Mold needs access to water to grow. The dehydration steps that follow lock out mold's access to the water in these gummies, however a humid environment or other exposure to moisture could break down that barrier.
 
add 2 tsp citric acid It improves the flavor, shelf stability, possibly active bio-availability, adds vitamin C (no it doesn't, that would be ascorbic acid - thanks Homer), and is great in your dish washer for removing hard water spots on dishes.
 
Add 4 grams agar agar to COLD tea and mix to dissolve If you forget and add it after heating, it clumps up and is really hard to dissolve. Ask me how I know. I like Living Jin brand because it dissolves well and many reviews seem to indicate that it is more palatable to sensitive stomachs.
add 2 packages of 3oz Jello mix or 2 packages of 6.78 oz EZ-Squeeze jello Shot mix Jello is easy to find and works well. I have tried the EZ-Squeeze and according to bw86 it contains preservatives which may help with storage and it comes in great flavors! Stir to mix, but it probably won't completely dissolve yet.
sprinkle 4 packets or 4 tbsp of unflavored gelatin over chilled tea and do not stir, allow gelatin to sit for 5 minutes. I didn't know the science on this, but that is what the directions say so that is what I do. After some additional research I have learned that this is called letting the gelatin "bloom".
   It is important for getting the right texture that they gelatin powder absorbs moisture to bloom. If the candy syrup mix is too solid after chilling to be absorbed by the gelatin add just enough water directly to the powder to hydrate it. Let it sit and expand for 5 minutes. The bloomed gelatin will have a rubbery texture.
reheat mushroom tea jello mix in saucepan just enough to dissolve dry ingredients and gelatin It is important for the final texture to keep the liquid temperature as low as possible, but warm enough to allow everything to dissolve. If it gets too hot they may still work, but will be more like jelly than gummies. Maintain a low heat and slowly stir all ingredients until they dissolve. Try to avoid whipping in any foam. It can be tricky to get it good and blended without getting a layer of foam unless you stir very slowly. The rubbery gelatin will melt into the candy syrup with patience. Do not over heat to speed this up, but there is a fix I will add later if you do end up with jelly that won't set up to gummies.
Another method is to heat in a microwave for 30 seconds, stir gently, then alternate heating for 15 seconds and stirring 4 more times for a total of 90 seconds in the microwave. Remove from microwave and let mixture sit for 10 minutes. Stir gently every couple of minutes and mix should become more clear. I prefer the control of heating in a sauce pan, but this will work too.
spray molds lightly with non-stick spray Place your mold on a cookie sheet so it will be easy to move to the fridge. Then lightly spray with non-stick spray to make removal easier. Once I learned this, I was able to use the decorative gummy molds again.

pour into molds on cookie sheets Pour into the molds. This is also a bit of an art form. You need to be quick while the mix is hot and liquid while also being tidy. I love these pitchers for this as well. There are other methods, but this is the simplest for me. The droppers that come with many molds are generally worse than useless. The first ones may end up with foam on top which is fine. Maybe try to pour thin and go back to get nice even doses. I didn't do that this time and ran a little short of filling the complete tray. Try to fill just below level with the top of the mold, not over.

Allow gummy molds to cool until solid enough to move without spilling By the time you finish pouring, the mix has probably started setting up. Give it 15 more minutes and you should have no problem moving the cookie sheet to the fridge without spilling.
Refrigerate at least 1 hour If you got the recipe, temperatures and volumes right, they should be pretty easy to work with after an hours in the fridge with square molds. For some of the other fun shapes, or if there was too much liquid tea, or too hot at the dissolving dry ingredient step, it can take longer and be really sticky. You can see below that I struggled with some of these because they were too wet/sticky. If they don't set up at all (probably got too hot in the reheat step) you can still fix them. More on that later.
 
Remove from molds and place individual pieces on non-stick screens sprayed with non-stick spray in dehydrator spaced not touching each other I highly recommend wearing nitrile gloves sprayed with non-stick spray to handle the gummies. It is more hygenic and less messy. My dehydrator came with these "Clean-a-Screens". They are perfect for this application. The fruit leather screens, not so much, though. Amazon link to screens
  
Drying Now we have some choices to make. If you have a dehydrator with a very low setting like 95f/35c, you can air cure them for 24 hours then dehydrate them for a few hours. If not, you can get a fan and cure them at room temperature. Or for the perfect combo of speed and texture, I disabled the heating coil in a dehydrator. The basic instructions will assume the low temp dehydrator but I will follow up with the other options further down.
Allow them to air cure for 24 hours If you have low humidity, you may be able to leave the dehydrator trays unstacked for 24 hours to allow the exteriors to dry somewhat. If you have higher humidity, you may need to add a fan to induce more drying. Just using a fan for longer can work for drying if you do not have a dehydrator with a low setting. Your success will be determined by your environment. If they are still tacky at all continue on to the dehydrator step.
Dry in dehydrator at 95F/35c for 2 hours I had trouble with melting at higher temperatures, especially if you start with too much tea/liquid or got the gelatin mix too hot, so check on them frequently and proceed with caution. They should shrink as they lose water, but if they start to loose their shape turn off the heat.
   They can still be saved in one of two ways. (See below. dehydrator mod or jelly to gummy)
Flip each and continue to dehydrate for 1 hour Bonus points if you chose a bear or other fun shaped mold and can stand them up on their feet for the final drying.
They should feel dry and no longer be sticky at all. If not, flip each and continue to dehydrate as needed. Expect them to have shrunk by around 25% to 33%. Now they should not be tacky at all. They should not require any sugar or corn starch coating to prevent sticking, but that is an option if you live in a more damp climate. If you go that route, try a 1 to 4 ratio of citric acid to sugar for a sour patch kid effect.

place in air tight container.
   Ziploc bags and Twist-Locs are not totally air tight. They are fine for short term, but for long term storage use glass or Tupperware type containers and store them in the fridge.
That is it. This is what is working for me. I shared a bunch last week (as of the initial post) over 4 day concert and a lot of people had a lot of positive things to say. I hope you enjoy.
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Dehydrator Modification Is it necessary? No. The steps above will work, but it is really disappointing when they come out of the molds looking perfect and then turn to mush in the dehydrator on low. That is why I added the 24 hour cure before the heat. However I felt like it would be possible to speed up the air cure in the dehydrator if I could kill the heat entirely. So I did. And the best part is that they actually cured to a better texture without any heat at all.
So the idea is just to disconnect the heating coil. I am not an electrician and this is not medical-legal-electrical advice. Just what I did.
For Ned's sake, unplug it first. If you didn't already think of that, forget it. STOP. Do not continue. Stick to the methods above. 
This is the model that I have. Actually this is the one I wasn't using because I got a bigger one.

Take off the top. Flip it over. Remove the outer screws on the light gray part.
  
Flip it again and remove the knob then the top.
 
Now you have this and we are interested in disconnecting this.
  
Notice that there is a little tab that needs to be pressed to release the wire clip. First off, I didn't need to do this the first time. I only discovered that there was a release tab when I went back to take pictures. So if it comes right off, great. If not, I found that pulling it up a bit would expose the back side of the tab so that I could use an awl or something pointy to press it while lifting to release the clip.
 
Once released, move the end of the freed wire away from the terminal. If you are leaving the dehydrator without heat permanently, cut and cap the wire. If not, you could use a bit of electrical tape, but I left mine as is.
 
Now line everything back up and put it back together in the reverse order of above. I recommend getting all of the screws lined up and started before tightening any down. But you do you.

I imagine that you could add a switch to that disconnected line instead so you could still easily use it as a regular dehydrator without taking it apart each time. But I had a spare and am too lazy for that.
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Turning Jelly Into Gummies So you let the gelatin mix get too hot or didn't reduce the tea enough and ended up with this.
  
It happens. But it is possible to recover and not that difficult. You will need some more unflavored gelatin, some water and some of the tools you already used above like a sauce pan, molds, etc.
The biggest pain is collecting all of the melted gummies or jelly.
 
Gather it up the best you can and put it back into your sauce pan.

If it is melted gummies that have partially or fully hardened when they cooled, add a little water. Maybe 1/8 cup (125 ml). If it is just jelly you may not need water yet at all.
Carefully and slowly heat on very low this time. We want it to melt again but it should only get hot enough to melt slowly.

As soon as it is all liquid again it is time for another ice bath. See above.
  
This time when it is cool it probably will be at least partly solid. Good.
If not, sprinkle 2 packets of unflavored gelatin on top and watch to see if it absorbs liquid to bloom. If the powdered gelatin visibly fully hydrates, add another packet and wait a few minutes to see if it also fully hydrates. If so, add one more packet and wait, if not, you have enough gelatin.
If it was partly solid, sprinkle 2 packets of unflavored gelatin on the chilled mix. The gelatin powder probably won't absorb any or very little moisture. So we add just enough water to bloom the gelatin. Let it sit for 5 minutes until fully bloomed. The bloomed gelatin should have a rubbery texture when poked.
  
Now we carefully add heat again until it is just barely warm enough to melt the mix and eventually you will be able to get the gelatin to melt into the mix as well.
Stir slowly until all of the bloomed gelatin is melted then immediately remove from heat.

Now you can continue as above pouring into non-stick sprayed molds.
Follow the rest of the steps as before. That should do it. Careful with that heat(axe), Eugene.
***************************************************Credit to following bw86 - my gummy bear tek https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26313322bw86 - Next gen gummies https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27222123Gummies by milkboy https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27678260
Edited by ReverendMyc (01/22/24 09:05 AM)
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: ReverendMyc]
#27829068 - 06/20/22 06:14 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Great tek! Very detailed. Thank you for posting this. Looking forward to giving it a try.
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: ReverendMyc]
#27829077 - 06/20/22 06:22 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks, I'll be using this when I get some stones from my atl#7 jars.
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: Zigzagzin]
#27829084 - 06/20/22 06:32 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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can't wait to try these out man!
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: sandman420] 2
#27829332 - 06/20/22 09:19 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Hell yea! Def going to try…
the best part is skipping the back story and 10 paragraphs of why this recipe came about from your grandmas cousins best friends pregnant gold fish baby shower blah blah blah
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: san pedro guy]
#27829346 - 06/20/22 09:26 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Nice write up, I wish my dehydrator went low enough for gummies. Always have had to use corn starch to prevent sticking.
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: milkboy]
#27829372 - 06/20/22 09:38 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Awesome! Thank you for sharing!
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: ironfreak]
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: ReverendMyc]
#27829641 - 06/21/22 01:25 AM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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nice write up!  you can also use Potassium Sorbate to use as a preservative, or else i find it to mold within several weeks in a container. Have tested potency after a year and works great
Also can sugar coat gummies, to prevent sticking together
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: SlugWorthx1]
#27830124 - 06/21/22 10:17 AM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks for the nods and input, everyone. I will add updates as I figure them out.
I want to try using just a fan in place of the dehydrator for those that do not have one with a low temperature setting. I may need some input from those in more humid climates. It is so dry here that I am sure a fan alone will work, but that may not be a fair test for other locations. (I haven't had a soft sticky Nilla Wafer since I was a kid ) I agree that sugar or corn starch works if other drying won't.
I will have to try some potassium sorbate next time as well. I have not had any trouble with mold, but again, it is really dry where I live so mold is not the problem here that it is in other places.
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: ReverendMyc]
#27830235 - 06/21/22 11:34 AM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Curious if your dehydrating method helps you with shelf life, my gummies will go bad after two weeks in a mason jar.
Potassium sorbate along with citric acid will both help with shelf life, Ive always just thrown em in the freezer tho.
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: milkboy]
#27830274 - 06/21/22 12:10 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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The ones I did with the 6.78 oz EZ-Squeeze Jello Shot mix have lasted 6 months on the shelf. But again, it is dry here. Amazon link to EZ-Squeeze jello shot mix. I gave a friend in San Fran some of these. She kept them a month before trying them a couple of weeks ago. Those didn't mold.
I am going to put a few from this Jello brand batch aside in a ziploc bag on the shelf to see how long it takes to mold, if at all. Will report back here. Monsoon season is starting, so it will be as humid as it gets here, but today it is 10% & dew point is 32f/0c.
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Edited by ReverendMyc (06/21/22 12:31 PM)
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: ReverendMyc]
#27831446 - 06/22/22 08:51 AM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Inspirational, thanks for sharing. Have you tried just chopping the stones into tiny pieces and not using a stick blender?
Just curious if you'd get a cleaner looking end product, I'd expect most of the alkaloids to get drawn out in a 30 minute simmer
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: Maritime Funguy]
#27831534 - 06/22/22 10:15 AM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
Maritime Funguy said: Inspirational, thanks for sharing. Have you tried just chopping the stones into tiny pieces and not using a stick blender?
Just curious if you'd get a cleaner looking end product, I'd expect most of the alkaloids to get drawn out in a 30 minute simmer
I have tried exactly that. That is how I did the piña colada flavored ones. They were about 1/4 as strong even though they were boiled for more than an hour.
The tea was clearer, but the stones just didn't want to give up the magic to the tea that way. Since that one was with the piña colada mix the clarity didn't matter, though.

This is not to discourage experimenting. Maybe chopping finer than I did or using a food processor or nut chopper instead of a stick blender would work with a sufficient simmer. Give it a go and let us know.
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Edited by ReverendMyc (06/22/22 10:30 AM)
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: ReverendMyc]
#27831555 - 06/22/22 10:30 AM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Ok very good to know, I think truffles are a great idea for hot water extract products, I'm thinking of doing a truffle kombucha with honey lemon grass and ginger, after I grow stones again. I had great results adding shrooms to kombucha during the 1st and only ferment, I wonder if the acidity would help draw the actives out of magic truffles
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So - this is awesome! This was my project this weekend - cleaned up all the stones I had in various substrates and figure out how to store them and get some ready for my week off at the lake - perfect timing for this gummy tek. I wish I had used a strainer bag instead of just a normal strainer. I also played it a bit fast and loose with numbers since I had more weight (about 250g) so I left it at ~ 1.3 cups of final liquid, but I didn't do any actual math. Dumb/rookie question (background is I am getting slowly back into this world after ~ 6 years off from kids, work, whatever) - what is an appropriate Level 2-3 dose? I don't even remember what I would eat back in the day - all I remember is the fallout when one of my best friends decided to be a hero and ate a handful before my wedding .... memorable night for all involved. I think the obvious answer is I have to just try a low dose to dip my toes in the water and figure out a baseline, then go from there. But any wisdom is welcome!
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: tykles]
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I wish I could give you a good answer for dosing, but you are right, the best method is testing. One of the things I like with these is that you can easily re-dose after 1 to 2 or more hours to up or extend the ride.
There are just too many factors to be certain without just testing them. Age of the stones when harvested, genetics, personal sensitivity, etc.
FYI: the first time I tried them my wife and I did 5 and 6 gummies respectively. That was too much for sure. I thought I had calculated a 0.5g dose per gummy, but was quite mistaken. They start to kick in at about 10 to 20 minutes, so you should be pretty clear how strong they are at an hour. But that time, I thought I was peaking at 45 minutes and it kept climbing for the next hour. So starting small and adding on is the only thing I will ever recommend going forward. That was an awesome trip and very therapeutic for my wife, but it was way more than we had planned for.
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: ReverendMyc] 2
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 Tasty recipe! Thanks!
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Nice one, KROM.
I caught your 420 post and sent you a screen grab in case you missed it.
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: milkboy]
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milkboy said: Curious if your dehydrating method helps you with shelf life, my gummies will go bad after two weeks in a mason jar.
Potassium sorbate along with citric acid will both help with shelf life, Ive always just thrown em in the freezer tho.
The ones I did with the 6.78 oz EZ-Squeeze Jello Shot mix have lasted 6 months on the shelf. But again, it is dry here. Amazon link to EZ-Squeeze jello shot mix. I gave a friend in San Fran some of these. She kept them a month before trying them a couple of weeks ago. Those didn't mold.
I am going to put a few from this Jello brand batch aside in a ziploc bag on the shelf to see how long it takes to mold, if at all. Will report back here. Monsoon season is starting, so it will be as humid as it gets here, but today it is 10% & dew point is 32f/0c. 
Just a follow up on this to say that the dehydrated Jello brand recipe is still not showing signs of mold after a month. It is the peak of monsoon and the relative humidity is 42% right now.

I did purchase some citric acid and potassium sorbate that I will add to the next batch to test, though.
Also want to comment that I am still working on a good dosing amount. 1.5g of stones per gummy is too low in my opinion. I had three gummies from the month old batch the other day and it was a mild museum dose. Checking my notes, the earlier batches were 3.5g of stones per gummy. The next run will be a batch of stones and a separate batch of dried tamp fruits. I am hoping that will help me zero in on a good dosing formula.
I will keep updating the original post as I find improvements.
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: ReverendMyc]
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Awesome ^^^ great info I hadn't happened upon this thread yet. I will have to try this, gives me a reason to try and grow sclerotia too, lol.
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: Cob] 4
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Made some updates, additions and corrections to the OP after the latest batch using mushrooms instead of stones.
- various grammatical corrections and clarifications.
- added citric acid and potassium sorbate to recipe as optional preservatives
- added more details for mushrooms versus just stone examples.
- adjusted fresh stone to dried tamp fruit estimate to 1g fresh stone ~ 0.25 dried tamp, but that is still just my approximation.
Dried shrooms do not need to be ground up as finely as stones when making tea. The stones just require more coaxing to give up their magic. *REMOVED because I found that the results are much stronger if you do in fact grind up shrooms the same as stones.
before boiling down the tea, strain it again through a double layer of paper towels in a sieve to get a much more clear tea. Be sure to squeeze the the mud ball filled paper towel to get all of the liquid possible. *REMOVED because while this makes more attractive clear gummies, they are much weaker.
If you have time or patience, put your tea in the fridge for a few hours until it is chilled. *REMOVED chilling in Fridge. You can use a fridge in place of the ice bath, but I found that a longer duration between making the tea and binding it in the Jello affects the strength and the flavor. So the faster ice bath is greatly preferred.
- upped the initial dehydrator time from 1 to 2 hours.
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: ReverendMyc]
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Lots of updates and improvements.
Still need to complete the jelly recovery and dehydrator mod info.
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: ReverendMyc]
#28079536 - 12/02/22 12:42 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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I’ve been reading the thread, accidentally started to ignore a user, clicked the back button and I’m thinking the recipe said sugar not corn syrup. I was really confused for like 2 whole minutes. Thanks for the brand new update
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: doubleD]
#28079857 - 12/02/22 03:58 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Wow, you were in it while I was updating? That is funny.
Yup, turns out that corn syrup is the magic ingredient to get the chewyness to last over time.
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: ReverendMyc]
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Thankfully I decided to do a dry run. An attempt was made!
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: worimi1]
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Good thing you did the dry run first. The picture looks like only dried skins are left. I can't figure out how that could happen.

But see recovery section at the end of the OP to learn how to fix a fail. I did some dry runs with just water instead of tea and they all came out really well while working out the tek. It is usually the material in the tea (or viscosity of the tea) that makes it tricky to get the texture just right.
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fuck yeah!! i need to give this a try. sounds delicious. thanks for the write up homie!!
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: hazyhorse] 3
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Hi RM
I just wanted to thank you for writing this one up, and for directing me to it the other week when I was asking about them...
I made some the other day, can't say I was at all faithful to your tek, but I learned a lot of nuance from yours and the others you referenced that led to some great gummies being made. A lot of that nuance was not explained in the method that I did end up following, so it surely is thanks to you fellas that I pulled it off nice in the end
I still have some work to do on perfecting them but I am approaching something really good finally
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: SingularFusion]
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Nef said: Hi RM
I just wanted to thank you for writing this one up, and for directing me to it the other week when I was asking about them...
I made some the other day, can't say I was at all faithful to your tek, but I learned a lot of nuance from yours and the others you referenced that led to some great gummies being made. A lot of that nuance was not explained in the method that I did end up following, so it surely is thanks to you fellas that I pulled it off nice in the end
I still have some work to do on perfecting them but I am approaching something really good finally
much appreciated 

Damn Nef, they really look like Haribo Where did you get those siliconforms?
And just out of curiosity, do you guys add flavor to them?
Eagerly awaiting your perfected method write up
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the german Zon provided the silikon forms and the flavouring, there is a ridiculous amount of choice
yeah I am still not sure they can be stored airtight without potassium sorbate, so mine are not perfected completely yet. But the texture is definitely legit, really close to shop quality. I wanted to not use a preservative but in the end I will probably break and use the sorbate so I know many can be made at once and stored well
I am still working on the concentration of tea step mainly, in order to bring the doses up reasonably high for a single gummy, so you don't have to eat as many to get high. I find as you concentrate the tea it definitely gets thicker and syrupy and I wonder at what point it will break the recipe
These ones have about 0.6g Ps. Cyan in each pig gummy, so you need at least a half dozen of them or so if you really wanna blast off seriously. The little bears are microdoses, about 0.06g. One of the more promising applications, those ones are for my old Mum, she is 76 and doesn't do any drugs but has took up microdosing and is feeling great from it. Just takes them like vitamins daily, claims she is feeling really wonderful. She is normally the world's greatest skeptic about this kind of thing, so I guess microdosing works . Never tried myself
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: SingularFusion] 1
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Those are beautiful, Nef. Thanks for trying and sharing your results.
I agree that the concentration of the tea is the challenge. The more viscous it starts the more gelatin is required for the right final texture. Figuring it out is half chef and half mad scientist. But it has been fun.
Love that you Mum is finding something good in them.
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: ReverendMyc]
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: fungusul]
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Following, thanks for all the info again! You guys rock!
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: Anonymous]
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Awesome! I’ll be trying this next time. Thank you.
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: RoscoeReturns] 1
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I know I necroing this thread but I just finished pouring my trays. Sorry if it bothers anyone.
Thank you for posting this! This was by far the best sounding tek for gummies I've found. Here is what I did wrong and right. I did not account for the 1/4 cup of corn syrup in my math to figure potency of the finished product. I was aiming for 30 gummies with a 1g potency each. I ended up with 40 gummies at about a 0.75g potency since I used 32g dry to compensate for losses. My idea was 32g dry split into 30 molds at 6ml each would result in about 1g potency per gummy. I suck at math so I could be wrong. I realize I should have reduced to 3/4 cup as well but this is a trial run for me so I wanted to stick to the recipe as written. So when doing this next time I will reduce the tea to 1/2c using the same method as before but resulting in 3/4c finished liquid after the corn syrup. Also I used a plastic marinade injector without the metal needle to fill my molds. I could get exactly 6ml in each cavity and the injector held 30ml which allowed room for foam. It reduced the foam in the gummies because every time I went to pour, the foam rose to the top of the syringe letting just the liquid flow out. Also when filling, the tip was under any foam so less got into the syringe.

Update- they came out still liquid in the center. I threw them back on the stove to remelt, and added a packet of gelatin. I was only able to fill 21 cavities this time. I think they dried up a bit overnight. Hopefully the potency is where it should be now at about 1.4g per gummy. They are air curing now and will hit the dehydrator tomorrow morning. The other thing I messed up was that I must have read the directions wrong and threw them in the dehydrator overnight. Hey that is what trial runs are for, right.
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: Bigworm]
#28345095 - 06/02/23 11:27 PM (7 months, 22 days ago) |
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Wow I stumbled on this gummy tek and I found the holy grail of gummies I see. However, I do wonder if anyone would like to attempt a vegan version?
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: 0t0lerance]
#28345822 - 06/03/23 01:51 PM (7 months, 21 days ago) |
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Thanks for the feedback guys. I am planning to run several batches today.
For vegan, I tried an agar only recipe, but it came out pretty hard and chewy. I haven't looked further into how commercial vegan gummies are made, but it sounds like something worth exploring.
I will also be trying some subtropicalis grain spawn gummies this round. I didn't think about it and used wheat for grain spawn which I prefer, but realized that this means that they won't be gluten free. So I will have to warn folks about that on this run.
Another big festival coming up and I need to get prepping.
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: ReverendMyc] 1
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Good looking out Bigworm. I am going to update the op to adjust for the liquid amounts because of switching corn syrup for sugar. As listed in the OP it was too much liquid. So we need to reduce the tea further or increase the unflavored gelatin. I am testing the changes now.
Will also be adding a tip that using nitrile gloves sprayed with non-stick spray makes removing the gummies from molds easier and more sanitary.
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**Cross post from the subtropicalis thread**
So I made some gummies from my subtrops and nats. I will add some updated pictures and notes to the OP.
For the subtropicalis, I planned to do about 75 grams dry to 140 gummies for 0.5g each. But I didn't have enough dry fruit handy...

... so decided to make up the last 17 grams using the equivalent in myceliated grain. I did a bit of quick ciphering and decided that 1 tablespoon weighed 7 grams and 2 tablespoons felt like about 1 gram to me, so at 15 grams of grain to about 1 gram of fruit, 255 grams should be about equal to the target 17 extra grams.
 Math is hard!
So while the first batch was curing I started a batch from nats as well. Figured might as well test a half gram dose gummy of the subs while I work.
Whoops ... again.
Not sure where my math was off, but this was a lot stronger than the 2 tablespoons of grain and the 1 gram of fruit tea that I had tried on 2 previous occasions. This was the most enjoyable light dose of any mushrooms to date.
Have a festival coming up and thought I should do a dose test. Munched it at noon thinking if I didn't feel anything in half an hour I would eat another. At a quarter after I felt nothing so figured I could go ahead and have another. But a timer went off and got busy for a couple of minutes. At 25 after, I was thankful that I waited cause they were definitely hitting now. Nice smooth climb for the next 30 minutes. I would not call it a come up because it lacked the anxiety feeling. Just getting more and more pleasant body feel and some visual bendiness but not full visuals. Familiar things looked strange, but I could continue to function and keep cooking the other batch while feeling great. Had some time distortion which is tricky when cooking, but held it together just fine. Now I get what everyone means by a cleaner feeling than cubes, but damned if I have any better description. After a couple of hours it started tapering off and I was in the after glow by 3:30 pm.
Looking forward to the festival and trying the nats and various combos of nats, tamps and subtrops.
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I followed your recipe last night with subtropicalis & ate a few today. Wow! Great tek, this has been my most successful stab at gummies. The texture is just perfect
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: MojaveMyc]
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Awesome!
The subtropicalis I made last week were a hit at the festival as well. Really like that variety. I am hoping to make a fully grain spawn batch this weekend of subtrops if I can squeeze some time in.
The nat batch was weak, but I have only tried them in gummies and have heard that this particular culture may just have been less potent. The member who shared the culture with me was disappointed with his initial bioassay of these nats. I had two test gummies at the show and was only getting the edge of a sparkle, so I added a subtrop gummy to catch up. Then all was well with the world.
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) *Not just for stones any more [Re: ReverendMyc]
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I really want to try this, but we don't have Jello in Europe. I can only find gelatin leaves/envelopes. As I understand it, Jello is just gelatine and flavouring? Can I just add more gelatin (how much?) and some flavouring myself? Could I also sub the corn syrup for honey or simple syrup?
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) *Not just for stones any more [Re: Tiamo] 2
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Corn syrup is better for gummies than honey or simple syrup but you can use honey.
Jello is gelatine with added flavor and sugar.
Get flavors and colors and make your own. I don't use jello.
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) *Not just for stones any more [Re: DERRAYLD]
#28469631 - 09/15/23 07:22 AM (4 months, 11 days ago) |
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Do you guys realize how much shelf space is dedicated to Jell-O in the US? It's like 20 feet of it, top shelf to bottom shelf. Regular unflavored gelatin gets one or two tiny little spots.
I'm surprised they don't sell it in Europe, especially without a direct competitor.
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) *Not just for stones any more [Re: Kinoko314]
#28469639 - 09/15/23 07:24 AM (4 months, 11 days ago) |
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Jell-o is a brand name specific to the US. We get multiple types of jelly here, jell-o just tastes great hence using it for gummies.
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) *Not just for stones any more [Re: DERRAYLD] 1
#28498760 - 10/10/23 12:17 PM (3 months, 16 days ago) |
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Ran some experiments today. These are gummies before drying. Came out perfect imo.


Let it be known that you should substitute 4 envelopes and 2 3oz Jello packages for 32 gelatin leaves. I added 50 grams of honey, lemon zest from 4 lemons (as flavoring) and food coloring too.

Also, you can sub corn syrup for any glucose syrup. I bought dextrose (same thing as glucose) in a sport supplements store and made my own glucose syrup by combining 100 grams of dextrose to 75 grams of water on the stove and reducing to a syrup.
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) *Not just for stones any more [Re: Tiamo]
#28499147 - 10/10/23 05:28 PM (3 months, 16 days ago) |
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I like the mold choice! I'm going to have to get them as well, it would help me differentiate between the gummy types I have. The lemon zest adds a little something too.
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) *Not just for stones any more [Re: Bigworm] 1
#28499526 - 10/11/23 12:10 AM (3 months, 16 days ago) |
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I've started experimenting with shatter sugar painted with a light coating of food coloring, grind it up and then add it to the gummies.
Home-made glitter gummies.
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: ReverendMyc] 1
#28507034 - 10/16/23 03:25 PM (3 months, 10 days ago) |
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Just dropping a line to say that the wifey and I decided to have one of the 4 month old 0.5g dose subtropicalis gummies each on Saturday before heading out for some dinner and music. We were just enjoying a pre-dinner cocktail as the band started when we both looked at each other and went, "uuuh do you remember these being this strong?" We finished our drinks, tipped the band, ordered a pizza to go and sang along to musicals all night on the couch.
For longer term, I recommend storing them in tupperware in the fridge. Ziplocs are fine for a few days, but they dry out, get chewy and lose potency after a month or so, even in fridge in plastic bags.
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: ReverendMyc]
#28510475 - 10/19/23 12:24 PM (3 months, 7 days ago) |
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Thanks for all the work getting the recipe dialed in!
I'm going into 2ml silicone squares and tried both pouring and pipetting. I have a hard time getting the pouring even. The pipetting takes more time, and I have trouble with the texture changing as I go. Some of the last ones I pipetted solidified perfectly, others I had to freeze to get out of the molds, and some of them are too soft even frozen. All from working out of one well mixed container that kept gelling on the surface. Any advice?
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: Tsinaglou] 1
#28510498 - 10/19/23 12:50 PM (3 months, 7 days ago) |
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May use a hot water bath and a laserthermometer to keep it at a constant temperature, so you dont overheat it when you try to get it back into a more liquid state after it cooled down.
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: Tsinaglou]
#28510501 - 10/19/23 12:52 PM (3 months, 7 days ago) |
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It sounds like your mixture is separating a bit if you have differing consistency from the beginning of the pour to the end. Finding the balance between well mixed while preventing foam is an art form more than a science.
Try this if you haven't. The last section of the OP is Turning Jelly Into Gummies. It may help to add more unflavored gelatin. If you do so, you can pour at a higher temperature which helps with more even pours and the extra gelatin helps ensure that they come out of the molds and hold their shape better.
Hope that helps.
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: ReverendMyc]
#28510565 - 10/19/23 01:33 PM (3 months, 7 days ago) |
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Thanks! Almost half of them are more granular, soft, and sticking in the tray. I'll remelt and try the process you referred to.
I used a hot water bath, but maybe it wasn't deep enough.
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: Tsinaglou] 1
#28511289 - 10/20/23 12:45 AM (3 months, 7 days ago) |
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Are you blooming your gelatine before hand? Also make sure you temper your sugar to the correct temperature. If you do those 2 things you will have no issues with setting gummies, add a bit of non stick spray as well for easy removal from the molds.
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: DERRAYLD]
#28512383 - 10/20/23 09:18 PM (3 months, 6 days ago) |
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I am blooming the gelatin, but I've never heard of tempering sugar. I'll have to look that up! I'm not adding any granulated sugar, but am using corn syrup and the sugar in Jello shot mix.
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: Tsinaglou] 1
#28550489 - 11/20/23 03:55 PM (2 months, 6 days ago) |
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I made another batch of these gummies and drying is still a pain in the ass for me, I haven't figured it out properly.
Here I found some more information about the drying process: https://www.melt-to-make.com/drying-guide
To summarise: You want to place the gummies in a RH environment of less than 35% for a certain amount of time, depending on the size of the gummies. Roughly 3-9 hours. This goes for sugar coated gummies, which I do because of my humid climate.
The way I accomplish this is using a steaming basket and desiccant, in my oven. I basically heat my oven to the highest and keep it there a couple minutes to evaporate water. Then I let it cool down all the way again. This makes my oven very dry. Then I place the steaming basket with a bottom of re-usable desiccant in the (now room temperature) oven and just keep it there overnight up to 12 hours.
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: Tiamo]
#28550565 - 11/20/23 04:47 PM (2 months, 6 days ago) |
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Nice tip, Tiamo.
As I mention in the op, my environment is dry. I almost never see rh at or above 30%. So I really appreciate the input from folks with experience and success in other places. I have to admit that I have continued to play with the recipe and also now dust them with corn starch with my latest changes.
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: ReverendMyc]
#28551023 - 11/21/23 02:36 AM (2 months, 6 days ago) |
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The RH has been (outside) around 80-90% nearly all month. Inside around 60 usually.
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: Tiamo]
#28551026 - 11/21/23 02:46 AM (2 months, 6 days ago) |
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I use my dehydrator with its heat source plugged out for 48h
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: Tiamo] 1
#28551027 - 11/21/23 02:47 AM (2 months, 6 days ago) |
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Lots of these drying tips exclude the use of a wax based sealant like carnuba. Use carnuba wax and the drying method is insignificant.
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: DERRAYLD]
#28551133 - 11/21/23 06:33 AM (2 months, 6 days ago) |
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What the hell is carnuba wax?
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: Tiamo] 2
#28551144 - 11/21/23 06:47 AM (2 months, 6 days ago) |
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Google it 
A group of us have perfected the recipe, carnuba wax is a sealant that prevents moisture loss and removes all stickiness, the gummies don't melt or reabsorb any moisture. No corn starch or any other coating needed.
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: DERRAYLD] 3
#28551148 - 11/21/23 06:52 AM (2 months, 6 days ago) |
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to be fair, in commercial productions the molds are made in Cornstarch. Later they get sprayed with the warm wax mixture and mixed evenly (you can not reproduce that step really by hand).
The way we can do it by hand is handcoating them in a carnubawax/oil mixture. It's far from perfect, but it get's the job done.
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: Shrimps]
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) *Not just for stones any more [Re: ReverendMyc]
#28601604 - 12/28/23 09:47 PM (30 days, 9 hours ago) |
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Hey there Rev,
Currently making these gummies from dried for the third time. Still working on dosage - they keep coming out with effects that are closer to less than a half gram (dried cubes as base).
Anyway, quick question about the first step of tea. You mention the longer it takes to cool it will effect the dosage/flavor. Does this matter in the reduction phase? How long does it usually take you from starting the tea process to getting it into the ice bath?
Thank you - this write up is phenomenal and everyone loves the gummies
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) *Not just for stones any more [Re: topmarq]
#28602279 - 12/29/23 01:05 PM (29 days, 18 hours ago) |
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Hey topmarq To be fair, I found that when I cooled the tea in the fridge over night instead of in the quick ice bath, I thought the tea tasted much more mushroomy, which I didn't like for the gummies. Anecdotally, those couple of batches turned out weaker than I expected them to be, but I can't be certain that it wasn't just a weak batch of mush material from the start.
To answer your question though, I keep simmering as long as it takes to get the volume down to desired amount. It has taken up to around 2 hours before with a large double decoction run. It is possible that some potency is lost the longer you go, but again, I can't say for certain. I would say that leaving tea unused for more than 12 hours seems to have a stronger impact on reducing potency ime. Once it is bound up in the gelatin and preservatives, the rate of potency loss is stopped or dramatically slowed.
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) *Not just for stones any more [Re: ReverendMyc]
#28605784 - 01/01/24 12:30 PM (26 days, 19 hours ago) |
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ReverendMyc said: Hey topmarq To be fair, I found that when I cooled the tea in the fridge over night instead of in the quick ice bath, I thought the tea tasted much more mushroomy, which I didn't like for the gummies. Anecdotally, those couple of batches turned out weaker than I expected them to be, but I can't be certain that it wasn't just a weak batch of mush material from the start.
To answer your question though, I keep simmering as long as it takes to get the volume down to desired amount. It has taken up to around 2 hours before with a large double decoction run. It is possible that some potency is lost the longer you go, but again, I can't say for certain. I would say that leaving tea unused for more than 12 hours seems to have a stronger impact on reducing potency ime. Once it is bound up in the gelatin and preservatives, the rate of potency loss is stopped or dramatically slowed.
Thanks for the quick reply! Interesting, so I've definitely been doing it "right". I've followed the recipe pretty much to a 'T' and, again, the potency is not high - the maths below. I did the ice bath and it takes me about 2 hours to reduce (which was where I thought I may be losing the potency). My only thought now is that there is a loss of potency from not extracting all the tea from the mushmash...which still doesn't really add up since I realllllyyy press that stuff out. I will next change the strain and see if this affects the potency. It is weird though - at the same dosage these mushies usually would give you a pretty good trip...
This is partly me just working through thoughts for others who are interested/practicing to read. I will update my experience as I make more, if others are interested. I currently am isolating some P. Cubenesis Huautla that I've read are a bit stronger(?) that I will grow out and try with this recipe but this will be a good couple more months. For now, I will keep playing with my process to see if I can get different results while enjoy these delicious lil' feel-gooders.
Strain: P. Cubensis Mazatapec Amount in Batch: 300g for Double Batch (DRIED) Yield: ~67 gummies (they are large, 1"x2" rectangles) Theoretical Dosage: 4.5g/gummy Actual Dosage: ~.5g/gummy
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: SlugWorthx1]
#28606521 - 01/01/24 10:23 PM (26 days, 9 hours ago) |
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SlugWorthx1 said: you can also use Potassium Sorbate to use as a preservative, or else i find it to mold within several weeks in a container. Have tested potency after a year and works great
I suppose that the use of pure ascorbic acid may even be more preferable, because ascorbic acid is not only an acid, but also a good preservative and antioxidant, which could help significantly extend the shelf life and prevent tryptamines from oxidation. Also, vitamin C is healthy
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: ReverendMyc]
#28612476 - 01/07/24 12:37 AM (21 days, 7 hours ago) |
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ReverendMyc said:
Also want to comment that I am still working on a good dosing amount. 1.5g of stones per gummy is too low in my opinion. I had three gummies from the month old batch the other day and it was a mild museum dose. Checking my notes, the earlier batches were 3.5g of stones per gummy. The next run will be a batch of stones and a separate batch of dried tamp fruits. I am hoping that will help me zero in on a good dosing formula.
I will keep updating the original post as I find improvements.
Hey Rev,
Any updates on the recommended dosing amounts from your trials? I'd like to try my hand at making your gummies with some fresh tamp stones...but I'd like them to be on the stronger side if possible (not for microdosing). I'd prefer to only have to eat 2 or 3 gummies to get where I'm going instead of 8 haha.
In your experience, is it possible to make (relatively) strong gummies from fresh stones instead of dried mushshrooms? Conventional wisdom would just say to "use more stones" to make up for the potency disparity, but how much is enough? How much stone mass can the 2 cups of water you use in your recipe realistically handle at once?
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: stuffedmushrooms]
#28613943 - 01/08/24 10:27 AM (19 days, 21 hours ago) |
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Hi stuffedmushrooms Good question. The max I have managed to get to work well is about 300 grams of stones into 3 cups of water. Once that is reduced to about 3/4 cup water, it is pretty sticky which makes it harder to get a good gummy texture. Usually just requires additional unflavored gelatin, though.
My current set up produces about 400 ml of gummy goo and I am using mushroom shaped molds now that hold 4 ml each. So that would give 3g stone per gummy. That is more than a microdose, but you might need to do some experimenting to determine how many to eat for the experience you want. I can tell you that 6 x 2.2 ml gummy bears was more than I needed the first time.
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: ReverendMyc]
#28614073 - 01/08/24 12:45 PM (19 days, 18 hours ago) |
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ReverendMyc said: Hi stuffedmushrooms Good question. The max I have managed to get to work well is about 300 grams of stones into 3 cups of water. Once that is reduced to about 3/4 cup water, it is pretty sticky which makes it harder to get a good gummy texture. Usually just requires additional unflavored gelatin, though.
My current set up produces about 400 ml of gummy goo and I am using mushroom shaped molds now that hold 4 ml each. So that would give 3g stone per gummy. That is more than a microdose, but you might need to do some experimenting to determine how many to eat for the experience you want. I can tell you that 6 x 2.2 ml gummy bears was more than I needed the first time.

Clear, thanks!
Do you a double decoction or is it not worth it for stones?
And those mushroom molds are sweeeet. Where did you get them? Do you toss the mushroom-shaped gummies in sugar/cornstarch to prevent sticking, or is that not an issue?
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: stuffedmushrooms]
#28614115 - 01/08/24 01:27 PM (19 days, 18 hours ago) |
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I do a double decoction on stones for sure. They don't give up the good stuff as easily as dried fruits ime. I want to try using a masticating juicer on them after a boil next time to see if that helps get all of the active goodness more efficiently.
The molds are from the zon like most of my toys. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BSDWCWC9
And as for sticking, I usually don't use sugar or cornstarch and they do okay in my dry environment. But I have recently learned about using carnauba wax and am testing it for the genuine Haribo nonstick finish. That is what the little tub and pastry brush in that picture are for.
So after a few more batches, I need to do a new update to the OP with what I have been learning lately. It will also make it more internationally compatible because I have moved away from Jello brand gelatin and have added sorbitol, which really nails the "correct" gummy texture.
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: ReverendMyc]
#28614225 - 01/08/24 03:34 PM (19 days, 16 hours ago) |
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ReverendMyc said: Good question. The max I have managed to get to work well is about 300 grams of stones into 3 cups of water. Once that is reduced to about 3/4 cup water, it is pretty sticky which makes it harder to get a good gummy texture. Usually just requires additional unflavored gelatin, though.
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ReverendMyc said: I do a double decoction on stones for sure. They don't give up the good stuff as easily as dried fruits ime. I want to try using a masticating juicer on them after a boil next time to see if that helps get all of the active goodness more efficiently.
For my clarification, do you mean you do an initial decoction of 300g stones in 2 cups water, then a second decoction in 1 more cup (3 cups total), combine and reduce to ~3/4 cup? Or 2 separate decoctions of 3 cups each (6 cups total)?
Have you made any changes to the filtering method? Or still using a strainer and brewer's bag?
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ReverendMyc said: And as for sticking, I usually don't use sugar or cornstarch and they do okay in my dry environment. But I have recently learned about using carnauba wax and am testing it for the genuine Haribo nonstick finish. That is what the little tub and pastry brush in that picture are for.
So after a few more batches, I need to do a new update to the OP with what I have been learning lately. It will also make it more internationally compatible because I have moved away from Jello brand gelatin and have added sorbitol, which really nails the "correct" gummy texture.
Sound's like you're getting this down to a science! Looking forward to the next update
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: stuffedmushrooms]
#28614279 - 01/08/24 04:43 PM (19 days, 14 hours ago) |
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Total of 3 cups down to 3/4 cup and yes, still using strainer and brewers bag.
A couple of batches ago I tried doing a run from subtropicalis grain spawn and squeezing any liquid from the bag was nigh on impossible. That is when I came up with the juicer idea. Still haven't tried it, though.
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: ReverendMyc]
#28627661 - 01/19/24 07:17 PM (8 days, 12 hours ago) |
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Hey all. Been reading/rereading this thread while getting my supplies together to try it out. Curious if anyone can approximate the total volume of the prepared recipe. I'd like to be exact with my dosage. I'll do a dry run anyway and find out for myself, but I thought I'd ask. Thanks!
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: Ch3f] 2
#28627876 - 01/19/24 10:01 PM (8 days, 9 hours ago) |
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Dry run is a great idea. Plus bonus gummies.
I am currently getting a very consistent 400 ml, but I keep making adjustments to get closer to perfect. So this op is overdue for an update. One more batch and I think I will be ready to update.
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Damn you actually get the color in em. I shared a sphoto of my test batch that was blue colored, but it was made with water not mushroom tes. Making it with tea, the tea is usually so dark that the color just turns into black.
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: Tiamo] 1
#28628486 - 01/20/24 11:58 AM (7 days, 19 hours ago) |
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Thanks for the info, Rev. I'm definitely looking forward to seeing an update without Jell-O. I have no experience with candy-making so this thread is very helpful. I think fun edibles is the best way to introduce newbies to this magical world. Chocolates have been known I guess, but gummies less so. Chocolate covered jellies are a thing, and an interesting option to expand the types of confectioneries we can make.
I like the idea of having an ongoing discussion/exploration of candy-making techniques for mushroom edibles. There is of course a large range of possible textures/consistencies for gummy candies, and some have uses where others do not. For instance, those chocolate jellies I mentioned would call for a softer candy than if you wanted your gummies straight-up.
I have a mushroom cookbook called The Psilocybin Chef by Haze & Mandrake. It has a few gummy recipes. I thought about posting their recipes just so y'all could see, but found them to be less detailed than what we already have in this thread. They do provide instructions for preparing and using an alcohol extraction in their recipes though. I wonder what that would do for texture and potency.
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: Ch3f]
#28630804 - 01/22/24 08:59 AM (5 days, 22 hours ago) |
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Tiamo said: Damn you actually get the color in em. I shared a sphoto of my test batch that was blue colored, but it was made with water not mushroom tes. Making it with tea, the tea is usually so dark that the color just turns into black.
To be fair, that is a test batch with just water, not tea. They will definitely get darker with tea. This is the non Jello brand version, so you can add as much food color as you want, but once they get dark they don't get brighter with more color.
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Ch3f said: Thanks for the info, Rev. I'm definitely looking forward to seeing an update without Jell-O. I have no experience with candy-making so this thread is very helpful. I think fun edibles is the best way to introduce newbies to this magical world. Chocolates have been known I guess, but gummies less so. Chocolate covered jellies are a thing, and an interesting option to expand the types of confectioneries we can make.
I like the idea of having an ongoing discussion/exploration of candy-making techniques for mushroom edibles. There is of course a large range of possible textures/consistencies for gummy candies, and some have uses where others do not. For instance, those chocolate jellies I mentioned would call for a softer candy than if you wanted your gummies straight-up.
I have a mushroom cookbook called The Psilocybin Chef by Haze & Mandrake. It has a few gummy recipes. I thought about posting their recipes just so y'all could see, but found them to be less detailed than what we already have in this thread. They do provide instructions for preparing and using an alcohol extraction in their recipes though. I wonder what that would do for texture and potency.
There are a ton of possibilities. I have found that people are very receptive to gummies who would otherwise balk at doing psychedelics and I love to spread the love. I also recognize that there is a risk that this could lead to some accidental ingestion that has the potential to cause bad press for our cause. So do please use extreme caution in controlling access to any edibles that could be mistaken for something non-active. In fact, I am going to add a caution to this op to that effect right now.
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: ReverendMyc]
#28630961 - 01/22/24 11:43 AM (5 days, 19 hours ago) |
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Wondering how the color comes out with the tea. And I totally agree about the receptiveness of people towards gummies. I have given them to a lot of friends, a single 0.7 gram PE (2.1% psilocybin by dry weight) gummy is a nice introductory to psychedelics imo. I hide mine very well and label accordingly.
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: Tiamo]
#28631592 - 01/22/24 11:28 PM (5 days, 8 hours ago) |
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Much agreed on the need for child and bystander safety as we proceed with this subject. I knew about a friend of a friend's eight year old daughter who found a bowl of unlabeled mushroom chocolates at a supposedly family-friendly festival. I guess the kid experienced full on ego death and started telling her mom some wild time-is-a-flat-circle type of shit.
Appropriate storage, packaging, and labels is a must
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: Tiamo]
#28631615 - 01/23/24 12:48 AM (5 days, 6 hours ago) |
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Tiamo said: Wondering how the color comes out with the tea. And I totally agree about the receptiveness of people towards gummies. I have given them to a lot of friends, a single 0.7 gram PE (2.1% psilocybin by dry weight) gummy is a nice introductory to psychedelics imo. I hide mine very well and label accordingly. 
It's virtually impossible to reduce mushrooms without the tea going black.
This is the best I can do for color, they have a tint versus full color like the clear gummies I make.


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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: DERRAYLD]
#28631922 - 01/23/24 09:32 AM (4 days, 22 hours ago) |
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Too true, Derrayld. I also wanted to thank you for that tip on carnauba wax. That was a game changer in my last tests.
 
Only problem is that I didn't get to test longevity because my family couldn't stay out of them.
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: ReverendMyc] 1
#28631976 - 01/23/24 10:21 AM (4 days, 21 hours ago) |
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Glad it could help, I've definitely found the carnuba even makes drying fairly pointless.
As long as you have the correct water content and you take the sugar to the correct temperature then moisture becomes way less of an issue.
In general I leave my gummies open in the fridge on wax paper for a day then coat with carnuba and massage the fuck out of them to fully coat, pat dry with a fish towel to remove any excess oil and they're ready to go into a large ziplock to cure for a few days in the fridge; it's not really necessary but I find it just sets the wax super well.
My current longevity tests with potassium sorbate and carnuba coated is at 1 month in the foil ziplocks with zero change in appearance.

They're fairly temperature stable as well now, well up to a point of course but the foil packs help.
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: DERRAYLD] 2
#28631987 - 01/23/24 10:29 AM (4 days, 21 hours ago) |
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Here's a tip to make the gummies last Rev.... make 500.
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: DERRAYLD] 1
#28631994 - 01/23/24 10:33 AM (4 days, 21 hours ago) |
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You don't know my family very well. Maybe 5000
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: DERRAYLD]
#28637494 - 01/27/24 11:28 PM (8 hours, 11 minutes ago) |
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Tiamo said: Wondering how the color comes out with the tea. And I totally agree about the receptiveness of people towards gummies. I have given them to a lot of friends, a single 0.7 gram PE (2.1% psilocybin by dry weight) gummy is a nice introductory to psychedelics imo. I hide mine very well and label accordingly. 
It's virtually impossible to reduce mushrooms without the tea going black.
This is the best I can do for color, they have a tint versus full color like the clear gummies I make.



DERRAYLD and Rev, any tips on what flavor additives work best with the taste of the tea gummies?
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