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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: ReverendMyc] 1
#27842761 - 06/29/22 06:28 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: ReverendMyc] 1
#27842855 - 06/29/22 07:55 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: milkboy]
#27879257 - 07/27/22 01:44 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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milkboy said: Curious if your dehydrating method helps you with shelf life, my gummies will go bad after two weeks in a mason jar.
Potassium sorbate along with citric acid will both help with shelf life, Ive always just thrown em in the freezer tho.
The ones I did with the 6.78 oz EZ-Squeeze Jello Shot mix have lasted 6 months on the shelf. But again, it is dry here. Amazon link to EZ-Squeeze jello shot mix. I gave a friend in San Fran some of these. She kept them a month before trying them a couple of weeks ago. Those didn't mold.
I am going to put a few from this Jello brand batch aside in a ziploc bag on the shelf to see how long it takes to mold, if at all. Will report back here. Monsoon season is starting, so it will be as humid as it gets here, but today it is 10% & dew point is 32f/0c. 
Just a follow up on this to say that the dehydrated Jello brand recipe is still not showing signs of mold after a month. It is the peak of monsoon and the relative humidity is 42% right now.

I did purchase some citric acid and potassium sorbate that I will add to the next batch to test, though.
Also want to comment that I am still working on a good dosing amount. 1.5g of stones per gummy is too low in my opinion. I had three gummies from the month old batch the other day and it was a mild museum dose. Checking my notes, the earlier batches were 3.5g of stones per gummy. The next run will be a batch of stones and a separate batch of dried tamp fruits. I am hoping that will help me zero in on a good dosing formula.
I will keep updating the original post as I find improvements.
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: ReverendMyc]
#27879313 - 07/27/22 02:32 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Awesome ^^^ great info I hadn't happened upon this thread yet. I will have to try this, gives me a reason to try and grow sclerotia too, lol.
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: Cob] 4
#27894869 - 08/08/22 03:48 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Made some updates, additions and corrections to the OP after the latest batch using mushrooms instead of stones.
- various grammatical corrections and clarifications.
- added citric acid and potassium sorbate to recipe as optional preservatives
- added more details for mushrooms versus just stone examples.
- adjusted fresh stone to dried tamp fruit estimate to 1g fresh stone ~ 0.25 dried tamp, but that is still just my approximation.
Dried shrooms do not need to be ground up as finely as stones when making tea. The stones just require more coaxing to give up their magic. *REMOVED because I found that the results are much stronger if you do in fact grind up shrooms the same as stones.
before boiling down the tea, strain it again through a double layer of paper towels in a sieve to get a much more clear tea. Be sure to squeeze the the mud ball filled paper towel to get all of the liquid possible. *REMOVED because while this makes more attractive clear gummies, they are much weaker.
If you have time or patience, put your tea in the fridge for a few hours until it is chilled. *REMOVED chilling in Fridge. You can use a fridge in place of the ice bath, but I found that a longer duration between making the tea and binding it in the Jello affects the strength and the flavor. So the faster ice bath is greatly preferred.
- upped the initial dehydrator time from 1 to 2 hours.
- added/replaced photos
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: ReverendMyc]
#28079512 - 12/02/22 12:23 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Lots of updates and improvements.
Still need to complete the jelly recovery and dehydrator mod info.
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: ReverendMyc]
#28079536 - 12/02/22 12:42 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Iβve been reading the thread, accidentally started to ignore a user, clicked the back button and Iβm thinking the recipe said sugar not corn syrup. I was really confused for like 2 whole minutes. Thanks for the brand new update
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: doubleD]
#28079857 - 12/02/22 03:58 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Wow, you were in it while I was updating? That is funny.
Yup, turns out that corn syrup is the magic ingredient to get the chewyness to last over time.
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: ReverendMyc]
#28081302 - 12/03/22 12:51 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Thankfully I decided to do a dry run. An attempt was made!
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: worimi1]
#28084556 - 12/05/22 10:24 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Good thing you did the dry run first. The picture looks like only dried skins are left. I can't figure out how that could happen.

But see recovery section at the end of the OP to learn how to fix a fail. I did some dry runs with just water instead of tea and they all came out really well while working out the tek. It is usually the material in the tea (or viscosity of the tea) that makes it tricky to get the texture just right.
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: ReverendMyc] 1
#28094114 - 12/12/22 02:09 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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fuck yeah!! i need to give this a try. sounds delicious. thanks for the write up homie!!
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: hazyhorse] 3
#28094167 - 12/12/22 04:50 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Hi RM
I just wanted to thank you for writing this one up, and for directing me to it the other week when I was asking about them...
I made some the other day, can't say I was at all faithful to your tek, but I learned a lot of nuance from yours and the others you referenced that led to some great gummies being made. A lot of that nuance was not explained in the method that I did end up following, so it surely is thanks to you fellas that I pulled it off nice in the end
I still have some work to do on perfecting them but I am approaching something really good finally
much appreciated 
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: SingularFusion]
#28094184 - 12/12/22 05:31 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Nef said: Hi RM
I just wanted to thank you for writing this one up, and for directing me to it the other week when I was asking about them...
I made some the other day, can't say I was at all faithful to your tek, but I learned a lot of nuance from yours and the others you referenced that led to some great gummies being made. A lot of that nuance was not explained in the method that I did end up following, so it surely is thanks to you fellas that I pulled it off nice in the end
I still have some work to do on perfecting them but I am approaching something really good finally
much appreciated 

Damn Nef, they really look like Haribo Where did you get those siliconforms?
And just out of curiosity, do you guys add flavor to them?
Eagerly awaiting your perfected method write up
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: Shrimps] 2
#28094202 - 12/12/22 06:05 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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the german Zon provided the silikon forms and the flavouring, there is a ridiculous amount of choice
yeah I am still not sure they can be stored airtight without potassium sorbate, so mine are not perfected completely yet. But the texture is definitely legit, really close to shop quality. I wanted to not use a preservative but in the end I will probably break and use the sorbate so I know many can be made at once and stored well
I am still working on the concentration of tea step mainly, in order to bring the doses up reasonably high for a single gummy, so you don't have to eat as many to get high. I find as you concentrate the tea it definitely gets thicker and syrupy and I wonder at what point it will break the recipe
These ones have about 0.6g Ps. Cyan in each pig gummy, so you need at least a half dozen of them or so if you really wanna blast off seriously. The little bears are microdoses, about 0.06g. One of the more promising applications, those ones are for my old Mum, she is 76 and doesn't do any drugs but has took up microdosing and is feeling great from it. Just takes them like vitamins daily, claims she is feeling really wonderful. She is normally the world's greatest skeptic about this kind of thing, so I guess microdosing works . Never tried myself
very thankful to Rev and the others that showed me the way of the gummies, legit
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: SingularFusion] 1
#28094379 - 12/12/22 09:47 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Those are beautiful, Nef. Thanks for trying and sharing your results.
I agree that the concentration of the tea is the challenge. The more viscous it starts the more gelatin is required for the right final texture. Figuring it out is half chef and half mad scientist. But it has been fun.
Love that you Mum is finding something good in them.
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: ReverendMyc]
#28094800 - 12/12/22 04:47 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: fungusul]
#28105896 - 12/20/22 11:26 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Following, thanks for all the info again! You guys rock!
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: Anonymous]
#28112675 - 12/26/22 07:47 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Awesome! Iβll be trying this next time. Thank you.
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: RoscoeReturns] 1
#28337497 - 05/27/23 08:40 PM (7 months, 28 days ago) |
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I know I necroing this thread but I just finished pouring my trays. Sorry if it bothers anyone.
Thank you for posting this! This was by far the best sounding tek for gummies I've found. Here is what I did wrong and right. I did not account for the 1/4 cup of corn syrup in my math to figure potency of the finished product. I was aiming for 30 gummies with a 1g potency each. I ended up with 40 gummies at about a 0.75g potency since I used 32g dry to compensate for losses. My idea was 32g dry split into 30 molds at 6ml each would result in about 1g potency per gummy. I suck at math so I could be wrong. I realize I should have reduced to 3/4 cup as well but this is a trial run for me so I wanted to stick to the recipe as written. So when doing this next time I will reduce the tea to 1/2c using the same method as before but resulting in 3/4c finished liquid after the corn syrup. Also I used a plastic marinade injector without the metal needle to fill my molds. I could get exactly 6ml in each cavity and the injector held 30ml which allowed room for foam. It reduced the foam in the gummies because every time I went to pour, the foam rose to the top of the syringe letting just the liquid flow out. Also when filling, the tip was under any foam so less got into the syringe.

Update- they came out still liquid in the center. I threw them back on the stove to remelt, and added a packet of gelatin. I was only able to fill 21 cavities this time. I think they dried up a bit overnight. Hopefully the potency is where it should be now at about 1.4g per gummy. They are air curing now and will hit the dehydrator tomorrow morning. The other thing I messed up was that I must have read the directions wrong and threw them in the dehydrator overnight. Hey that is what trial runs are for, right.
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Re: Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from stones/sclerotia) [Re: Bigworm]
#28345095 - 06/02/23 11:27 PM (7 months, 22 days ago) |
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Wow I stumbled on this gummy tek and I found the holy grail of gummies I see. However, I do wonder if anyone would like to attempt a vegan version?
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