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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: San Pedro Girl]
    #28306535 - 05/04/23 02:07 PM (8 months, 20 days ago)

Polyfill vs Medical tape for mono holes?

Also, for top fruiting grain jars, just coir and verm for the top layer?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Screwup]
    #28306553 - 05/04/23 02:15 PM (8 months, 20 days ago)

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If I farted in my shoebox every chance I got would it hurt my shrooms? Asking for a friend.



By the sacred law I of “whoever smelt it, dealt it”, this would actually mean the mushrooms farted… so they’d have no one to blame butt themselves. 💩💩💩 besides, everyone knows those dirty fucks love that shit, literally


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: hazyhorse]
    #28306558 - 05/04/23 02:19 PM (8 months, 20 days ago)

A couple of weeks ago I tested some LC and spores on BRF pucks. Everything is growing but some of the details do not make sense to me. Maybe someone can explain what I saw.

LC #1 is a commercial Jack Frost syringe. I started to see what looked like healthy myc on BRF on 4-5 days. AFAIK, this is fine and normal.

LC #2 is a commercial SN APE syringe. It took more like 6-7 days to see any growth, and the rate of growth is ~50% slower than for Jack Frost. Is APE generally slower to colonize or does this slow growth suggest a problem with the culture? (Of course there were somewhat different amounts of inoculant but the difference is dramatic and it is consistent across two pairs of jars.)

Spore #1 is a commercial GT syringe. It's growing what looks like healthy myc just as fast as the JF LC test. I expected the spore test to take much longer to show anything. This seems very weird. I might think it was a trich syringe except it was used in a successful test grow that did not trich out. How can spores get going at turbo speed?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: hazyhorse]
    #28306563 - 05/04/23 02:22 PM (8 months, 20 days ago)

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dude for 5 days you look great. LITFA. could still be bacterial but i’m not seeing anything concerning. congrats on sick genetics




I should still wait for this spot to colonize before adding the casing?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Huskies]
    #28306565 - 05/04/23 02:23 PM (8 months, 20 days ago)

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Huskies said:
Polyfill vs Medical tape for mono holes?

Also, for top fruiting grain jars, just coir and verm for the top layer?




Micropore tape. Use ezdial for hole placement If you haven't made the tubs yet. Don't even need to use micropore then.

Coir or coir and verm is fine.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Way] * 2
    #28306609 - 05/04/23 03:03 PM (8 months, 20 days ago)

Does this look right? Squirt of cube LC on GWA after 2 days.



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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Bismillah] * 1
    #28306610 - 05/04/23 03:06 PM (8 months, 20 days ago)

does to me :asianofapproval:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: 254DEUS254]
    #28306612 - 05/04/23 03:07 PM (8 months, 20 days ago)

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254DEUS254 said:
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hazyhorse said:
dude for 5 days you look great. LITFA. could still be bacterial but i’m not seeing anything concerning. congrats on sick genetics




I should still wait for this spot to colonize before adding the casing?




i usually just do a compressed top layer at spawn for PE so i'm not sure. i think you're fine to case but i'd double check that with some searches on here


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: keeno]
    #28306613 - 05/04/23 03:07 PM (8 months, 20 days ago)

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does to me :asianofapproval:



:whathesaid:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: San Pedro Girl]
    #28306625 - 05/04/23 03:28 PM (8 months, 20 days ago)

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Dude totally gonna make some more jars tonight and try it out. I think I’ve been overthinking unmodded lids.



I do unmoded lids also, but with an SFD sandwiched between the lid and jar rim. The only difference is you can tighten them down and still get clean GE.




I don’t have any SFD…I’ve been using syringe filters…so I think I’m just gonna take the seal out of it and go straight unmodded for this batch. I’ve actually never used SFD…a friend showed me syringe filters years ago and I thought it was the best way so I started using them for LC…I’m having contam issues and I’m really not sure what it is…but what I’ve been doing isn’t working all the time so might as well try something new

I’m assuming I would do the same thing with agar correct? Except instead of LC use agar of course lol


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: dbag2192]
    #28306634 - 05/04/23 03:43 PM (8 months, 20 days ago)

If you take the syringe filters out, is there not a hole left in your lid?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: dbag2192]
    #28306635 - 05/04/23 03:44 PM (8 months, 20 days ago)

it'll work totally fine without the SFD

LC could be contaminated tbh. i'm sure you have by now, but have you been testing on agar?

came across this tek for using SHIPs. faht doesn't open anything really so he's almost exclusively using SHIPs from what i understand. if you feel like the actual inoculation through the syringe filter is giving you issues, this might be a fun thing to try out. but it's more likely the culture i'd guess. hard to say


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: hazyhorse]
    #28306650 - 05/04/23 04:02 PM (8 months, 20 days ago)

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it'll work totally fine without the SFD

LC could be contaminated tbh. i'm sure you have by now, but have you been testing on agar?

came across this tek for using SHIPs. faht doesn't open anything really so he's almost exclusively using SHIPs from what i understand. if you feel like the actual inoculation through the syringe filter is giving you issues, this might be a fun thing to try out. but it's more likely the culture i'd guess. hard to say




Yea I learned the hard way to def test your LC haha. Won’t make that mistake again. And I have been. Of course I’m new still but I don’t see any signs of contamination. I mean a few of them yea and they got discarded and remade and retested. I’m actually inoculating through the SHIP and was using the syringe filter for GE. So I basically have 2 holes in my lid. One for the SHIP and one for the syringe filter. They are all sealed up with high temp RTV. I mean syringe filters DO work. I’ve used them for years and have had successes. But I’m not 90% successful even right now. Probably closer to 50%. I don’t know…I do have wbs steeping in water right now tho haha. Gonna try out a batch of 10 jars with unmodded lids. And to the previous comment. Yes it would leave a hole but I have brand new ones also that I haven’t drilled any holes through yet that I was going to use for the unmodded ones.

Edit. What about LC jar lids? Do unmodded on that as well? Let it grow and once it’s done tighten down the lid and refrigerate?

I’m also not sure why I’ve been so determined to make my  SHIP and syringe filter work…I guess cus it’s what I’ve been used to. I’ve had like 4-5 people throughout my shroomery adventures recommend I stop using them and go unmodded…I’m usually really good about taking people advice and going for it…not sure why I’m being so stubborn. Im wanting to change now tho. I really like my SHIPs…they are just easy for me…and they never seemed to be an issue really…but something is the issue…and i can’t keep doing the same thing expecting different results.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: dbag2192] * 1
    #28306677 - 05/04/23 04:24 PM (8 months, 20 days ago)

you can do unmodded for LC but i prefer using polyfil or another type of filter. no real reason i guess i just like having the lid down tight for LC. just leave em on the shelf unless you're trying to store them for a few months at a time


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: hazyhorse]
    #28306682 - 05/04/23 04:28 PM (8 months, 20 days ago)

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you can do unmodded for LC but i prefer using polyfil or another type of filter. no real reason i guess i just like having the lid down tight for LC. just leave em on the shelf unless you're trying to store them for a few months at a time



Why does polyfil freak me out so bad? I feel like it’s just not enough haha. I mean plenty of people use it..I feel like I wouldn’t be able to get it tight enough…I guess I could continue using my syringe filters for LC. I usually only fill a jar up 1/4 to 1/3 up so there’s plenty of air in the jar also. I haven’t seemed to run into issues of GE in my LC…it’s always something different..last one I fucked up I know exactly what I did haha.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: dbag2192] * 1
    #28306690 - 05/04/23 04:35 PM (8 months, 20 days ago)

I use these for grain and lc both.



I'm a bit old school sometimes. To each their own.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
    #28306696 - 05/04/23 04:41 PM (8 months, 20 days ago)

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I use these for grain and lc both.



I'm a bit old school sometimes. To each their own.




Am I seeing SFD top and bottom plus micropore tape on the actual hole?


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    #28306697 - 05/04/23 04:42 PM (8 months, 20 days ago)



I know I suck at taking pics but this is what my agar looks like now days.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: dbag2192] * 1
    #28306713 - 05/04/23 05:07 PM (8 months, 20 days ago)

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Nichrome said:
I use these for grain and lc both.



I'm a bit old school sometimes. To each their own.




Am I seeing SFD top and bottom plus micropore tape on the actual hole?



Skip the hole. If you use an entire SFD like that, the hole is unnecessary.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: San Pedro Girl]
    #28306716 - 05/04/23 05:10 PM (8 months, 20 days ago)

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dbag2192 said:
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Nichrome said:
I use these for grain and lc both.



I'm a bit old school sometimes. To each their own.




Am I seeing SFD top and bottom plus micropore tape on the actual hole?



Skip the hole. If you use an entire SFD like that, the hole is unnecessary.




So that gap that the SFD makes between the lid and the jar is what will give you the GE and also filter the air?
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San Pedro Girl said:
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dbag2192 said:
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Nichrome said:
I use these for grain and lc both.



I'm a bit old school sometimes. To each their own.




Am I seeing SFD top and bottom plus micropore tape on the actual hole?



Skip the hole. If you use an entire SFD like that, the hole is unnecessary.




So the SFD will make a gap between the lid and the jar and allow for GE and also filter it?


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