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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Ingushkaya] 1
#28264591 - 04/06/23 04:17 AM (9 months, 18 days ago) |
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Do you really need gypsum for BRF PF jars?
I read Pf tek done right TEK and i am confused.
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Gypsum really helps the development of the fruit bodies I recommend using it
I was under the impression that you don't need gypsum for BRF cakes.
What's the deal? Use it or not?
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Yahra] 2
#28264594 - 04/06/23 04:24 AM (9 months, 18 days ago) |
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Itโs a 13 year old thread. No you donโt need gypsum.
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Screwup] 2
#28264597 - 04/06/23 04:29 AM (9 months, 18 days ago) |
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Thanks.
I think we should get rid of all these "xxx done right" threads which provide outdated information.
Much confusion for noobs like me.
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Yahra] 3
#28264603 - 04/06/23 04:41 AM (9 months, 18 days ago) |
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I feel like that message about being old and outdated should be like a pop up that you have to click twice lol. Maybe prevent necro posting and specific teks direct you to new ones hahaha
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Screwup]
#28264605 - 04/06/23 04:44 AM (9 months, 18 days ago) |
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Good idea. Is there a forum for the site staff/mods that this can be suggested on?
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Screwup]
#28264607 - 04/06/23 04:51 AM (9 months, 18 days ago) |
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I've seen the message indicating that the thread is old and may contain outdated information.
Buuuut the thread title has "done right" in it and is from a "Trusted Cultivator".
These two things made me believe i could ignore that message.
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: johnukguy] 2
#28264608 - 04/06/23 04:57 AM (9 months, 18 days ago) |
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Good idea. Is there a forum for the site staff/mods that this can be suggested on?
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/postlist.php/Board/219
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Eugene Gesuale]
#28264609 - 04/06/23 05:00 AM (9 months, 18 days ago) |
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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24144021
Should have pretty up to date stuff here. Also when you search for posts you can change how many years it'll go back to find posts.
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: NFLProof]
#28264611 - 04/06/23 05:02 AM (9 months, 18 days ago) |
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Yes, i always limit my search to only search for posts younger than 5 years.
But this doesn't help if an old, outdated thread is linked from inside a recent one.
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Eugene Gesuale]
#28264623 - 04/06/23 05:17 AM (9 months, 18 days ago) |
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Thank you.
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Yahra] 2
#28264645 - 04/06/23 06:04 AM (9 months, 18 days ago) |
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Yahra said: Do you really need gypsum for BRF PF jars?
I read Pf tek done right TEK and i am confused.
It says
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Gypsum really helps the development of the fruit bodies I recommend using it
I was under the impression that you don't need gypsum for BRF cakes.
What's the deal? Use it or not?
Use this instead.
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Yes, that's the one i read all the time.
Thought it was a good idea to read the other threads on Pf tek as well, but it wasnt't, obviously.
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: SirPsycho]
#28264682 - 04/06/23 06:32 AM (9 months, 18 days ago) |
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psylocyber said: Ok glad I was called out.. just as satisfying as being correct. We both learned something today Mycodemus.
You were 100% correct. Remove the dry verm and the hydrated sub provides the water
Nvm, got confused reading the nested quotes6
Wait, now Iโm confused. Shred or bury?
Bury. And the only person I've really seen talk about it is Pasty, I believe it was on discord though.
No need for coir on the bottom and you fruit it like a tub
Ok thanks. Do I pack the coir in and down like in the normal shoebox tek? Or should it be as loose as a PF jar?
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mycodemus]
#28264685 - 04/06/23 06:35 AM (9 months, 18 days ago) |
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Can someone please explain what senescence is and why it happens, and why itโs bad?
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mycodemus] 1
#28264686 - 04/06/23 06:38 AM (9 months, 18 days ago) |
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Iโm no expert but itโs basically when the culture gets tired and stops producing well. After many many transfers and grows. Iโm not sure how because it doesnโt make much sense in my mind. Like why canโt you just take a clone culture to keep it going. Why do you have to start back over from spore?
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Eugene Gesuale] 1
#28264690 - 04/06/23 06:46 AM (9 months, 18 days ago) |
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Why do humans have to keep having kids instead of just living forever? Cultures get old just like humans do and when they get old they are less vigorous and healthy than younger cultures.
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Ingushkaya]
#28264732 - 04/06/23 07:37 AM (9 months, 18 days ago) |
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Ingushkaya said: My question is: If i keep doing transferring from agar to agar from the newer part of growth will senescence be a problem? Should i try to keep amount of transfers in minimum to acquire the best result?
No, not really. Senesence is not really something most home cultivators have to worry about. It's more of a commercial cult problem where even a small % drop in performance translates to major revenue loss.
The Enigma culture has been passed around for close to 6 years and is just now starting to show signs of senesence in some cases.
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Eugene Gesuale] 1
#28264736 - 04/06/23 07:39 AM (9 months, 18 days ago) |
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Eugene Gesuale said: Iโm no expert but itโs basically when the culture gets tired and stops producing well. After many many transfers and grows. Iโm not sure how because it doesnโt make much sense in my mind. Like why canโt you just take a clone culture to keep it going. Why do you have to start back over from spore?
Because errors happen in the DNA transcription as cells divide, the more divisions the more errors and this eventually leads to cells not behaving as they should.
Like PBJ said, it's the same reason we experience more and more problems as we age.
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: SirPsycho]
#28264772 - 04/06/23 07:54 AM (9 months, 18 days ago) |
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Eugene Gesuale said: Iโm no expert but itโs basically when the culture gets tired and stops producing well. After many many transfers and grows. Iโm not sure how because it doesnโt make much sense in my mind. Like why canโt you just take a clone culture to keep it going. Why do you have to start back over from spore?
Because errors happen in the DNA transcription as cells divide, the more divisions the more errors and this eventually leads to cells not behaving as they should.
Like PBJ said, it's the same reason we experience more and more problems as we age.
Makes sense. I often take cuttings of my houseplants and wondered why it wasnโt the same, but I guess fungi are more like fauna in that respect.
Makes me wonder if you kept cloning a human clone if they would degradeโฆ like in that movie Multiplicity haha
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: SirPsycho]
#28264819 - 04/06/23 08:27 AM (9 months, 18 days ago) |
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Eugene Gesuale said: Iโm no expert but itโs basically when the culture gets tired and stops producing well. After many many transfers and grows. Iโm not sure how because it doesnโt make much sense in my mind. Like why canโt you just take a clone culture to keep it going. Why do you have to start back over from spore?
Because errors happen in the DNA transcription as cells divide, the more divisions the more errors and this eventually leads to cells not behaving as they should.
Like PBJ said, it's the same reason we experience more and more problems as we age.
So what's the workaround so the "package", in terms of Humans gets a full copy? Makes me wonder if it's natural to have things stay the same or get better and someone messed with genetics to make them degrade instead of at worse regenerate upon command from the body owner...
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