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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: flyboi]
    #28258681 - 04/02/23 06:42 AM (9 months, 22 days ago)



Hi all,
this is first transfer of Natalensis on MEA agar. I'm curious about the vertical growth - is it normal or am I growing mold instead of myc ? Sorry, noob here.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: MMatt]
    #28258686 - 04/02/23 06:47 AM (9 months, 22 days ago)

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Hi all,
this is first transfer of Natalensis on MEA agar. I'm curious about the vertical growth - is it normal or am I growing mold instead of myc ? Sorry, noob here.

TIA



Looks like myc to me!

In my experience, the more nutrition your agar has, the slower it will grow out and the more it will grow vertically. Simply put, when there's little nutrition the myc has to spread out to find more, while with an abundance it'll have time to stay put and grow for a while. This could very well be the reason for your vertical growth.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: MushroomMania007]
    #28258811 - 04/02/23 08:34 AM (9 months, 22 days ago)

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Every time you attempt this hobby , it’s a little different. Next time I’m going back to ole faithful mates , B+ ! I’m use to nice thick pins these kinda look starved of something . What do you guys think ?




What variety is that? I thought you put them in a water tub and took them out of the sgfc.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: myc_ousin_vinny]
    #28258872 - 04/02/23 09:25 AM (9 months, 21 days ago)

Anyone able to give me a decent ratio for 500grams of coir with boiled water only, to get somewhere around field capac. ?

I plan to get close as possible, and only add Verm. if im on the wet side

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: SpencerPhillips] * 3
    #28258891 - 04/02/23 09:33 AM (9 months, 21 days ago)

Coir grams x 4.5 = water in grams

I like x4.7 for my specific coir but 4.5 will get you close


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: milkboy]
    #28258901 - 04/02/23 09:39 AM (9 months, 21 days ago)

thanks :shrooms:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: myc_ousin_vinny]
    #28258913 - 04/02/23 09:51 AM (9 months, 21 days ago)

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Every time you attempt this hobby , it’s a little different. Next time I’m going back to ole faithful mates , B+ ! I’m use to nice thick pins these kinda look starved of something . What do you guys think ?




What variety is that? I thought you put them in a water tub and took them out of the sgfc.




This is MS syringe of treasure coast I , should have went with B+ again rent was due yesterday unbelievably my rent was increased and my car payment! So it kinda threw off my budget . I looked around the house and was only able to find a smaller shoe box type tub. I made a rack and threw 1 cake
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: MushroomMania007] * 2
    #28258960 - 04/02/23 10:40 AM (9 months, 21 days ago)

Worst april fools ever, rent and car payment?! Fuck man, i feel ya, just had a tree fall on my car and got hit with an unexpected insurance deductible


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: MushroomMania007]
    #28259002 - 04/02/23 10:59 AM (9 months, 21 days ago)

If the potential yield of a given culture ultimately correlates to quantity of spawn, and many here have cultures that consistently yield 2oz+/qt, Why haven’t I seen a 1lb yield here off a standard brick of coir and 8 QTs of spawn?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nonagon]
    #28259040 - 04/02/23 11:28 AM (9 months, 21 days ago)

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If the potential yield of a given culture ultimately correlates to quantity of spawn, and many here have cultures that consistently yield 2oz+/qt, Why haven’t I seen a 1lb yield here off a standard brick of coir and 8 QTs of spawn?




That would be a huge tub, ime and from whatI’ve seen b/e drops in larger substrates

and best yields are @ high ratios of sub 8 qts @ 1:3 with a too layer is like 30 qts, i rock 40 qt totes lol.


Here.. I think he used like 15 lbs of spawn…

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23957271/fpart/1/vc/1


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: AyePlus] * 1
    #28259055 - 04/02/23 11:37 AM (9 months, 21 days ago)

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Worst april fools ever, rent and car payment?! Fuck man, i feel ya, just had a tree fall on my car and got hit with an unexpected insurance deductible




I wished , I actually found out Wednesday on payday how ironic? So my rent got hit with an extra 75$ for water and trash it’s been included with the rent for over a year . With the car the car lot requires a seasonal payment around tax time , last few years they have put it on the back end of my total price of the vehicle and I pay a like 300$ to catch it up to date . This time the corporate lady came in and said we’re raising $10-15 I looked at my paperwork after I left jumped another 50 $ so I pay 180$ a week just on car payments then my job cut out all my overtime it’s just one thing after another sorry to vent I know everyone , is struggling.



That’s the one cake I’m trying in a small ass tote . I noticed the lid didn’t fit to snug mate so , I tapped it up from what I read it needs 48 hours in there before I tilt the lid few centimeters and mist how does it look guys ?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: AyePlus]
    #28259058 - 04/02/23 11:39 AM (9 months, 21 days ago)

Been waiting for these to start fruiting, but the myc just keeps building on top.  Another variety birthed at the same time has already fruited and been harvested. This is a first for me, it's just cubes.  What is going on here?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nonagon]
    #28259062 - 04/02/23 11:40 AM (9 months, 21 days ago)

Efficiency aside, 8 quarts is a fat grow and if it gets contaminated or isn't dialed you would be super sad. It's also hard to lug around an enormous tub.

Versus 8 shoeboxes or a couple monos which are less likely to cross contaminate and are already dialed to maximize your spawn. Probably takes the same space.

I wouldn't want to try a massive batch for logistics reasons but I have no idea if the large sub would have an effect on the mycelium. I'm sure someone out there has done a 100qt tub or a truck bed or something. Maybe you'll be the one to write the "pound per tub tek"

Edit: there's the bathtub grow! I was trying to remember which thread made me laugh so hard the other day

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    #28259089 - 04/02/23 11:59 AM (9 months, 21 days ago)

Why do large grow when small grow do trick?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit]
    #28259102 - 04/02/23 12:09 PM (9 months, 21 days ago)

I use 200g oats per jar, but I’m about to make some rye jars for the first time. Do I still use 200g? Will that be too much or too little?


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    #28259135 - 04/02/23 12:43 PM (9 months, 21 days ago)

Should be fine, but maybe 225 or 250, the hulls on oats make them take up more space..


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
    #28259170 - 04/02/23 01:30 PM (9 months, 21 days ago)

Does this look bacterial to anyone? There's a few grains that aren't colonized and look wet. I can only assume it's bacteria...








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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit]
    #28259177 - 04/02/23 01:34 PM (9 months, 21 days ago)

Small grow do do trick.

To clarify, I don’t actually intend to do this, and have no need to. Monotub math/bricks of coir just seem to be a universally understood language in terms of spawn ratios and such.

Used 2oz/qt as it’s widely considered a great yield, 8 QTs for math’s sake, for exploring why that ratio seems to taper off when scaled up. 

Point of my question was that I’m expanding the first culture i’m really stoked about, and feel like my spawn is (finally) clean/healthy enough to serve as a reasonable basis for comparison when playing with variables, which I’ve wanted to do basically forever.

Edit: This thread in particular interested me, in terms of efficient use of material. Spawning SB’s with a half pint… Ratios up to 1:12. More or less equivalent to spawning a full size mono with one quart.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21805715/fpart/1/vc/1


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Luftwaffles90]
    #28259179 - 04/02/23 01:36 PM (9 months, 21 days ago)

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Does this look bacterial to anyone? There's a few grains that aren't colonized and look wet. I can only assume it's bacteria...











I’d say yes. How long has it been like that? I’d still send it tbh.

Wait is that blue in the jar?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Screwup]
    #28259222 - 04/02/23 02:00 PM (9 months, 21 days ago)

Does this look bacterial to anyone? There's a few grains that aren't colonized and look wet. I can only assume it's bacteria...







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Does this look bacterial to anyone? There's a few grains that aren't colonized and look wet. I can only assume it's bacteria...











I’d say yes. How long has it been like that? I’d still send it tbh.

Wait is that blue in the jar?




They've been like that since they were like 95% colonization a few days ago. Noticed a couple wet looking grains. Actually, I noticed some wet looking grains that weren't colonized even back when it was at 20% but I thought it was just some condensation. I'm guessing that I'm just not getting all the endospores sprouted and killed but idk. I think the blue you're seeing could be staining from my PC if we're looking at the same thing.


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