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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
    #28257666 - 04/01/23 01:21 PM (9 months, 22 days ago)

Hey guys,

Just wanted to ask a quick question about softened water. It just popped up in my mind and I donโ€™t know if the salt would affect making grain jars or hydrating substrate. We have a water softener as we have a really high iron content In the water and it was wrecking appliances.

Not sure if anyone has had issues with softened water. I believe there is a spigot right before it goes into the water softener where  I could get un-softened water.

Any advice would be most appreciated. Thank you!


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Newshroom42]
    #28257671 - 04/01/23 01:23 PM (9 months, 22 days ago)

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Hey guys,

Just wanted to ask a quick question about softened water. It just popped up in my mind and I donโ€™t know if the salt would affect making grain jars or hydrating substrate. We have a water softener as we have a really high iron content In the water and it was wrecking appliances.

Not sure if anyone has had issues with softened water. I believe there is a spigot right before it goes into the water softener where  I could get un-softened water.

Any advice would be most appreciated. Thank you!



It would be best to just use the hard water before it hits the softener. The mushies love hard water and it saves you money on regeneration.๐Ÿคท

FYI, water softeners donโ€™t put salt in your water.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Newshroom42]
    #28257673 - 04/01/23 01:25 PM (9 months, 22 days ago)

My water is softened and I have no issues


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: San Pedro Girl]
    #28257674 - 04/01/23 01:25 PM (9 months, 22 days ago)

Okay awesome, it is good to know that they like it. Good think I thought about that as I was going to use the softener water. I assume salt in it might not be good?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Newshroom42] * 1
    #28257677 - 04/01/23 01:26 PM (9 months, 22 days ago)

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Okay awesome, it is good to know that they like it. Good think I thought about that as I was going to use the softener water. I assume salt in it might not be good?



The salt just cleans your resin during regeneration. Softeners donโ€™t put salt in your water. Either water is fine, but itโ€™s just a waste of soft water.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Screwup] * 1
    #28257680 - 04/01/23 01:28 PM (9 months, 22 days ago)

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My water is softened and I have no issues




Do you have pretty hard water? For us we have a lot of iron and everything will go brown in less than a week prior to getting one. I think if there is more stuff in it then there will be more salt in the water. I guess Iโ€™ll do the hard water as there is a spigot I could attach a short hose to, then test the softened water later on to see if it makes a difference


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: San Pedro Girl] * 1
    #28257690 - 04/01/23 01:45 PM (9 months, 22 days ago)

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Newshroom42 said:
Okay awesome, it is good to know that they like it. Good think I thought about that as I was going to use the softener water. I assume salt in it might not be good?



The salt just cleans your resin during regeneration. Softeners donโ€™t put salt in your water. Either water is fine, but itโ€™s just a waste of soft water.




If I remember correctly I believe the hard minerals are swapped with the salt in the resin and the salt that is swapped goes into the water. I have a warm mist humidifier (boils the water) and I always get a salt buildup after awhile.

Edit- Just did a little searching and this is a good article and it looks like a small amount of salt will go into the water: https://www.uswatersystems.com/blog/water-softener-how-do-they-work

Not sure how the salt would impact mushroom growth. But I guess it depends how much salt is in the water?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Newshroom42]
    #28257743 - 04/01/23 02:35 PM (9 months, 22 days ago)

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Newshroom42 said:
Okay awesome, it is good to know that they like it. Good think I thought about that as I was going to use the softener water. I assume salt in it might not be good?



The salt just cleans your resin during regeneration. Softeners donโ€™t put salt in your water. Either water is fine, but itโ€™s just a waste of soft water.




If I remember correctly I believe the hard minerals are swapped with the salt in the resin and the salt that is swapped goes into the water. I have a warm mist humidifier (boils the water) and I always get a salt buildup after awhile.

Edit- Just did a little searching and this is a good article and it looks like a small amount of salt will go into the water: https://www.uswatersystems.com/blog/water-softener-how-do-they-work

Not sure how the salt would impact mushroom growth. But I guess it depends how much salt is in the water?





There wonโ€™t be added salt from the softener. I just sent a sample of my potable tap water out for lab testing. It had a higher sodium content than softened water. Itโ€™s a very common misconception that water from softeners make salty water, but itโ€™s not the case.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: San Pedro Girl]
    #28257749 - 04/01/23 02:43 PM (9 months, 22 days ago)



So i spawned this tub maybe 2 weeks ago. Was going good then stalled when we got a cold spell in our area. I moved it to a warmer location and it hasn't progressed anymore. Does it take awhile for it wake back up after being cold? Thanks


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Bd1zzl3]
    #28257752 - 04/01/23 02:45 PM (9 months, 22 days ago)

How cold was it and what temp is it @ now


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Bd1zzl3]
    #28257753 - 04/01/23 02:46 PM (9 months, 22 days ago)

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So i spawned this tub maybe 2 weeks ago. Was going good then stalled when we got a cold spell in our area. I moved it to a warmer location and it hasn't progressed anymore. Does it take awhile for it wake back up after being cold? Thanks



When I travel, I stall my colonizing shoe boxes at 7ยฐC. After I pull them out, it usually takes about 2 weeks for them to really take off again, but Iโ€™ve never had it effect yield, so youโ€™ll probably be good.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: San Pedro Girl]
    #28257795 - 04/01/23 03:15 PM (9 months, 22 days ago)

Mates , Do you think itโ€™s safe to take a cake out of the SGFC. Perhaps introduce it , to the water tub? Or I need fresh cakes
I have a few , thatโ€™s only been in the SGFC for 3 days . Thanks


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: MushroomMania007]
    #28257799 - 04/01/23 03:17 PM (9 months, 22 days ago)

Yes transfer it if you want


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Screwup]
    #28257808 - 04/01/23 03:20 PM (9 months, 22 days ago)

In my opinion a water tub is a much better environment for your cakes. Transfer those suckers.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: myc_ousin_vinny]
    #28257815 - 04/01/23 03:22 PM (9 months, 22 days ago)

Wow ok ! You know I read about , 48 hours with the lid tight. Then proceed, cracking the lid a few centimeters. My question what step would I need first ? I read about the water droplets and will be looking for those !


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: AyePlus]
    #28257819 - 04/01/23 03:23 PM (9 months, 22 days ago)

It was getting in the 40ยฐs at night.  My heater couldn't keep up in my grow room in garage so i brought it inside.  Currently 65-70ยฐ


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Bd1zzl3]
    #28257898 - 04/01/23 04:18 PM (9 months, 22 days ago)

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It was getting in the 40ยฐs at night.  My heater couldn't keep up in my grow room in garage so i brought it inside.  Currently 65-70ยฐ



40 is a standstill, 65 is still on the cold side, but it will grow, if you can keep it around 70 youโ€™ll get alot faster growth..


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    #28257900 - 04/01/23 04:21 PM (9 months, 22 days ago)

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Okay, for years I've been seeing and hearing "field capacity" without any definition of "field." I don't know what this means. Enough water to fill a field?

Could it be someone heard "filled to capacity" and thought they heard "field capacity?" "Filled capacity" makes a lot more sense.

And to think I'm writing this and not stoned. lol




I think it refers to how you'd find coir a day after a rain in the field, with adequate drainage. That's how I've always thought of it, at least!




Coir in a field? Alright. I have visions of a farmer with a field of coconut husks.

Filled capacity seems right to me.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: AyePlus]
    #28257933 - 04/01/23 04:43 PM (9 months, 22 days ago)

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It was getting in the 40ยฐs at night.  My heater couldn't keep up in my grow room in garage so i brought it inside.  Currently 65-70ยฐ



40 is a standstill, 65 is still on the cold side, but it will grow, if you can keep it around 70 youโ€™ll get alot faster growth..



:whathesaid:
I just converted that to 4.44ยฐC. The last time I tried that low, my boxes didnโ€™t recover, which is why I upped my stall temp to 7ยฐC.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Ajahn Don]
    #28257989 - 04/01/23 05:25 PM (9 months, 22 days ago)

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Okay, for years I've been seeing and hearing "field capacity" without any definition of "field." I don't know what this means. Enough water to fill a field?

Could it be someone heard "filled to capacity" and thought they heard "field capacity?" "Filled capacity" makes a lot more sense.

And to think I'm writing this and not stoned. lol




I think it refers to how you'd find coir a day after a rain in the field, with adequate drainage. That's how I've always thought of it, at least!




Coir in a field? Alright. I have visions of a farmer with a field of coconut husks.

Filled capacity seems right to me.




Well the concept applies to non-coir substrates, too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_capacity


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