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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Rohrschach]
    #28632173 - 01/23/24 02:12 PM (4 days, 9 hours ago)

Yeah I guess if you're set on no pour than these wouldn't work. I hot pour in a SAB with good results.

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I was just thinking that unscrewing the lid and opening it a bit might be more dangerous than just piercing the polyfill (even though I'm aware that you'd have to unscre to do a2g or g2g anyways).



I don't have a recommendation for the inoculation, sorry. Its risky business either way with the MSS. Both methods will most likely produce the same results.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nerex]
    #28632204 - 01/23/24 03:01 PM (4 days, 8 hours ago)

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Now should I unscrew the jars in the SAB to introduce the syringe (risk of contam through big opening) or can I pierce the micropore/polyfill with the redhot needle and then add another piece of micropore (risk of contam because the new pieve of micropore isnt sterilized but maybe the polyfill will close it's hole just fine?)? Anyone have any have any inputs?



I am not recommending either, but if I were going to do it I would open the lid rather than risk damage to the filter. :2cents:

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I got a little half ass european PC which takes just 2 quarts jars barely... in order to make it run for like 3 hour I need to put in water enough to reach almost half the jars' height. Would be OK too for sterilizing?<

Maybe I put too much water in, but I don't want to risk to get a dry PC and leave that way.



Can't help with this run, but measure the difference in the amount of water before your start and when you finish. Now you know how much water that you need for a cycle. Next time use that amount plus 25 to 50% as a buffer and Bob's your uncle.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ReverendMyc]
    #28632207 - 01/23/24 03:04 PM (4 days, 8 hours ago)

Hey all, new poster but long time reader. So grateful for this community!

Anyway, I've pretty much mastered growing cubes and natalensis in tubs. I also have some tampanensis growing sclerotia on rye right now. I want a new challenge and in addition to the tamps that I'd like to fruit, I really want to put my tropicalis and TTBVI spores to agar soon.

After reading the boards for hours and deep-diving numerous teks, it seems that the trick to fruiting tamps, subtrop and pans is the high FAE provided by a Martha, correct? Unfortunately my living situation doesn't allow for this now. So would an acceptable substitute be something like JCM's fc? Will this setup work well for all three of those species? Thanks so much for any insight!


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: PsychedelicGator] * 1
    #28632214 - 01/23/24 03:13 PM (4 days, 8 hours ago)

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Hey all, new poster but long time reader. So grateful for this community!

Anyway, I've pretty much mastered growing cubes and natalensis in tubs. I also have some tampanensis growing sclerotia on rye right now. I want a new challenge and in addition to the tamps that I'd like to fruit, I really want to put my tropicalis and TTBVI spores to agar soon.

After reading the boards for hours and deep-diving numerous teks, it seems that the trick to fruiting tamps, subtrop and pans is the high FAE provided by a Martha, correct? Unfortunately my living situation doesn't allow for this now. So would an acceptable substitute be something like JCM's fc? Will this setup work well for all three of those species? Thanks so much for any insight!




Yes, they will all work in a JCM. Though subtrops & tamps do fine in tubs. Pans now too. My recommendation to semp newbies is to just treat them as you would cubes & make tweaks as you see fit


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: PsychedelicGator] * 1
    #28632219 - 01/23/24 03:18 PM (4 days, 8 hours ago)

I have done all three in ez dial style tubs with a bit of attention.
Check out Baba Yaga's pan mono tub thread.

I have also seen subtrops and pans done well in jcm's by others. Tamps would probably work as well. But it isn't required if you are able to check on them once or twice most days until you get them dialed in.

MojaveMyc beat me to the punch. Still posting.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ReverendMyc]
    #28632238 - 01/23/24 03:43 PM (4 days, 7 hours ago)



Are these ready to harvest? Obviously I see spores, should I  just wait till end of day to let the others catch up? there's so much flip flop on veils dropping and not dropping etc.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: mushr00mq3]
    #28632258 - 01/23/24 03:53 PM (4 days, 7 hours ago)

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Are these ready to harvest? Obviously I see spores, should I  just wait till end of day to let the others catch up? there's so much flip flop on veils dropping and not dropping etc.




I don't think there's any flip flop. I think some people just say spores taste nasty. I think dried shrooms taste like ass. Period. So i don't care. It's not really gonna get you any more potency by weight if you let them keep growing. Are you going to take prints? You could just decapitate the one you want to print and let the others grow.

So I guess the question is...

How do you feel about spores on your shrooms?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ReverendMyc]
    #28632278 - 01/23/24 04:10 PM (4 days, 7 hours ago)

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P.S. I love saying Bob's your uncle.




A commonwealth term that I have surprisingly seen exclusively in use in SE Alaska.  I'm guessing the heavy overlap with BC introduced it.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: psilocybenjamin]
    #28632281 - 01/23/24 04:12 PM (4 days, 7 hours ago)

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Thank you guys for the advice!

Well, damn. That sucks, but better news than contamination. Would misting it more help out the dry substrate?

I’m sure it was at field capacity when I mixed it with the spawn, but maybe the fan dried it out?




I think the fan is a pretty good guess.  Honestly you could probably disconnect all of those hoses and just run it as a short monotub. 

Be better if someone with more tinkering experience weighed in on that though.  I am, after all, just a pig.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy]
    #28632342 - 01/23/24 05:00 PM (4 days, 6 hours ago)

SO... thanks to this group my first monotub has started pinning, but, it's not healthy. Those yellow/green spots have been there for a few days and haven't gotten any bigger thankfully, but there's parts of the substrate which haven't even colonized which I've read is a really bad sign if it pins before 100%.

I think I over misted this, like to my eyes the sub looked dry within half a day of misting and needed it but when I pick it up now it feels way heavier than it did when I first spawned it. I'm confident the coir was at field capacity when spawned. I was also unsure about the health of the spawn to begin with as it took longer than 'normal' to finish.

Anyway, to the point... is this likely to bloom green soon? I only have one room which I can afford to keep warm so can't really separate this from the rest of the stuff I've got going on and don't want to be dealing with a metric fuck ton of trich spores from now until eternity.. I have more spawn on the way which seems a lot more vigorous/healthy, what would you guys do with a tub like this? Is it worth risking it for 1 flush or safer to dump and try again?







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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: dasteptderbar]
    #28632356 - 01/23/24 05:21 PM (4 days, 5 hours ago)

Looks pretty wet. Dial back any misting. Probably even all the way


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #28632393 - 01/23/24 05:51 PM (4 days, 5 hours ago)

What's the general consensus on soaking grains to reduce bacteria? I plan to PC jars for 4 hours, do you think that will be enough?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Rohrschach]
    #28632396 - 01/23/24 05:54 PM (4 days, 5 hours ago)

No need for micro and poly. Get rid of the poly. Have a good order of operations when inoculating (everything in place in a clean environment). You can just open the lids and shoot in the spores and close the lid. Make sure your hands and cloths are clean. Best with no sleeves and clean forearms too. This isn’t the best way however it will work, I’ve done it plenty of times before I ordered injection ports for my lids and was very successful.  If you put a hole in the tape it defeats the purpose. Do multiple jars to up your odds of clean spawn. Once you have a few good jars do G2G transfers and you will have plenty of spawn


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: CaptainPuffy]
    #28632399 - 01/23/24 05:56 PM (4 days, 5 hours ago)

Soaking the grains doesn’t reduce bacteria. PCing kills the bad stuff. Then make sure everything drys evenly to prevent wet spots which causes bacteria to grow


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mwj12977]
    #28632401 - 01/23/24 06:00 PM (4 days, 5 hours ago)

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Soaking the grains doesn’t reduce bacteria. Cooking the grains and then PCing kills the bad stuff. Then make sure everything drys evenly to prevent wet spots which causes bacteria to grow



Thank you very much


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: dasteptderbar]
    #28632413 - 01/23/24 06:11 PM (4 days, 5 hours ago)

Looks more bacterial. Trich (green stuff) doesn’t just chill like that it spreads very quickly. It does look over misted. In the future as long as you can see moisture on the side of the tub like that and your sub was good to begin with you typically don’t have to mist. Once the myc start to do its thing you will see beads form on the surface. If you don’t see them then it’s time to hydrate. Anyway, if it does go green toss it. If not ride it out and see what happens. I would pop the lid for a few hours and let it air out a bit then assess.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: CaptainPuffy]
    #28632418 - 01/23/24 06:13 PM (4 days, 5 hours ago)

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What's the general consensus on soaking grains to reduce bacteria? I plan to PC jars for 4 hours, do you think that will be enough?




4 hours is overkill, grains like popcorn will get way darker like they have been burned from longer cycles.

2 hours is plenty for grains, 90 minutes at 15psi is the usual recommended.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: HelloImBob]
    #28632449 - 01/23/24 06:32 PM (4 days, 4 hours ago)

For 1200 ml jars I usually pc 120+ minutes.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: huey.bluey]
    #28632489 - 01/23/24 07:04 PM (4 days, 4 hours ago)

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For 1200 ml jars I usually pc 120+ minutes.




Fair enough, I guess I'm always thinking the standard quart size jar seems to be the most common for grains around here.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: HelloImBob]
    #28632511 - 01/23/24 07:16 PM (4 days, 4 hours ago)

Meant 600 ml derp


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