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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Shrimps]
#28177072 - 02/08/23 04:23 AM (11 months, 13 days ago) |
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Shrimps said: So I made a nice clone from an Avery Cluster which I had on the first flush. Now in the second flush I have a really big fat boy, but stands as single.
QQ: If I clone the fat one from the second flush, Would the clones all become these fatones? Would It be prefered to only use clusters as clone material from the first flush instead of a fat one from the second flush?
The big boy:


The cluster from the first flush:

Since cloning is not the same as isolating a single sector, the flush doesn’t matter, and also doesn’t guarantee every fruit will look the same without further narrowing of the genetics. Someone can fact check me please.
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Eugene Gesuale] 1
#28177074 - 02/08/23 04:33 AM (11 months, 13 days ago) |
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Sorry to double post but I’m on the road and using talk to text. But this has me thinking. I wonder how much genetics plays into full canopies. Maybe it’s just your surface conditions. But it’s probably a combination of both. because I’ve seen people, clone clusters and get great canopies and I’ve seen people clean clusters and just get little clusters. I’ve also seen people clown clusters didn’t get no clusters. Sometimes I think the mushrooms Are the ones doing the genetic work on us
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BeefSupremeJr]
#28177077 - 02/08/23 04:41 AM (11 months, 13 days ago) |
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BeefSupremeJr said: maybe its my lids or something.. 7 on the bottom 2 on top. cant get the tenth one no matter what. feels like im gonna break a jar if i try and wedge it in there.
trivet out? what the hell man. i want ten jars ☹️
In my AA I can fit 10 seven upright and three on their side, but the three on their side cannot be wide mouth or at least one of them has to be a regular size jar I think it’s been a while, but try that and see if it works
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Roushomm]
#28177085 - 02/08/23 04:52 AM (11 months, 13 days ago) |
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BeefSupremeJr said: maybe its my lids or something.. 7 on the bottom 2 on top. cant get the tenth one no matter what. feels like im gonna break a jar if i try and wedge it in there.
trivet out? what the hell man. i want ten jars ☹️
In my AA I can fit 10 seven upright and three on their side, but the three on their side cannot be wide mouth or at least one of them has to be a regular size jar I think it’s been a while, but try that and see if it works
I can fit three wide mouths, except the lids need to be the metal stock type.
With the ball brand wide mouth plastic lids, I can only get 9
This makes sense. I always ran unmodified plastic lids so the way I saw the issue was regular mouth.
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nonagon]
#28177183 - 02/08/23 07:01 AM (11 months, 13 days ago) |
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Nonagon said: These tubs are like 6” away from one another on shelves, one above the other. Both have the same hole size/placement, but one showing way more evaporation of the condensation on the walls. Any idea why that might be?
Both tubs on that middle shelf have the same larger evaporation area, and the tubs on shelves above/below showing similar (smaller) dried areas. I’m assuming this is a direct visual indication of differences in FAE, whatever the reason might be.

Maybe if you measured field capacity of your coir by hand, one tub is wetter than the other But it’s most likely just the air current in the room
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: danto]
#28177232 - 02/08/23 07:43 AM (11 months, 13 days ago) |
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danto said: why some people don't let any fae during bulk colonization? is it better? i don't quite understand how to use a casing layer, does it have to be colonized or not? do i have to mist if i use a water tub for fruiting my brf cakes? why tub tek instead of bag tek?
1. To keep substrate moist... 2. Most do just fruiting conditions with no colonization phase... 3. I put my casing during my tub setup, for instance if I do a 1:2 ration of grain spawn to Coco Coir then I put 1.5 qts of Coco Coir with the grain spawn and .5qt Coir casing layer which I think is termed psuedo casing. I think people for certain strains that "blob" use casings and they might put it in the beginning of their tub setup or wait till some colonization happens... 4. Bigger yields with tub tek...

thanks man
I thought a pseudo casing was non nutritious. Like bubble wrap lol and orbeez
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Thedenthead]
#28177250 - 02/08/23 07:54 AM (11 months, 13 days ago) |
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Thedenthead said: Is it practical to dry grains outside when it’s cold? 36 and sunny here and I have a sliding door screen I got for laying grains out to dry.
If you are steam drying them, like after a simmer, my guess is that they would dry quicker because of more steam being produced. As long as you have them on screens for maximum surface area in contact with the open air.
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: San Pedro Girl]
#28177275 - 02/08/23 08:16 AM (11 months, 12 days ago) |
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BeefSupremeJr said: Okay this is the 20th time ive heard this:
"ten quarts in a 23qt presto"
i tried like ten different configurations last time and i couldnt figure it out. I get 9. Are you taking the trivet out? Seems not good. im good at tetris. What the fuck. how are yall doing this?

When I fill mine like this I can’t get the lid on because they’re wide mouth with plastic lids. And if I use regular mouth, I have to lay them 2 next to each other and one across the top of those two
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: B Traven]
#28177323 - 02/08/23 08:59 AM (11 months, 12 days ago) |
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Adrenognome said: I thought a pseudo casing was non nutritious. Like bubble wrap lol and orbeez
I guess the non-nutritious part is debatable, but I understand a pseudo-casing to be a thin extra layer of whatever your spawning substrate is, applied at the time of spawning.
Then what is your understanding of a casing?
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: AyePlus]
#28177358 - 02/08/23 09:24 AM (11 months, 12 days ago) |
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Is melmac the PE that doesn’t require a true casing
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Grogu]
#28178186 - 02/08/23 07:18 PM (11 months, 12 days ago) |
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Grogu said: Question please:
1. I have an uneven amount of grain so I'm going to experiment with it. Usually I do 4qt volume bags but this one will turn out about 3qt volume! I have a piopinno syringe and can inoculate it and should I just do it out of the bag and put a little casing. I just want to have fun not be serious... 2. How do I treat it, let it colonize, then perforate in the top of the bag? What's up with the gourmet mushroom simple bag growing?
Thanks,

Lipas tek is the simplest one and where I began my journey with gourmets. But if you want to supplement with soy hull or wheat bran you will need to sterilize your sub. The recipe I got from another grower on here that I use for 5 lb. bags is: 25 oz HWFP, 7 oz wheat bran, 48 ounces of water = 2 lbs. dry ingredients to 3 lbs. water. I weigh out the ingredients into each bag, boil the water in a kettle, and pour it over the pellets before placing them in the PC. I use either a half quart or full quart of spawn per bag, depending on my mood.
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Jim I.T.I]
#28178279 - 02/08/23 08:16 PM (11 months, 12 days ago) |
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Jim I.T.I said: quick question. i was given some Panaeolus cyanescens spores and have only ever grown cubes. i see recipes for dung and straw as substrate but all involve a pressure cooker which i don't have. can i bucket tek a substrate? or will i need to find a PC to go forward with these?
Maybe look into pancakes
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Eugene Gesuale]
#28178283 - 02/08/23 08:17 PM (11 months, 12 days ago) |
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I’m using my aluminum pc to simmer wbs but as I stir it it feels like a lot is sticking to the bottom. Is this because I didn’t rinse it first?
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ruawakeyet]
#28178298 - 02/08/23 08:20 PM (11 months, 12 days ago) |
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ruawakeyet said: I would turn the heat off for WBS. I've rinsed after steeping, never had that problem, but I steep instead of simmer when using WBS.
I’m used to oats. I should have brought it to a boil then added it? How long of a steep?
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ruawakeyet] 1
#28178329 - 02/08/23 08:31 PM (11 months, 12 days ago) |
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ruawakeyet said: I bring water to a boil, turn off heat and add WBS. Start a timer for 45 minutes. I stir it and skim off anything that floats to get rid of most of the sunflower seeds. Once I'm happy I removed most of the SS, I cover with a lid. My experience is that they can go longer than 45 minutes and still be fine. I then strain and rinse, and let drain for around 10 minutes. It should be ready to load into jars at that point. I basically follow Reverse Fooman's Method, with a minor change here and there.
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ruawakeyet said: I bring water to a boil, turn off heat and add WBS. Start a timer for 45 minutes. I stir it and skim off anything that floats to get rid of most of the sunflower seeds. Once I'm happy I removed most of the SS, I cover with a lid. My experience is that they can go longer than 45 minutes and still be fine. I then strain and rinse, and let drain for around 10 minutes. It should be ready to load into jars at that point. I basically follow Reverse Fooman's Method, with a minor change here and there.
Thank I’ll Try that next time. Just started to boil I’ll go another 20 min
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Eugene Gesuale]
#28178406 - 02/08/23 09:16 PM (11 months, 12 days ago) |
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I know it isn’t optimal to have the water touching the bottom of the jars during a pc cycle, but I can’t remember if it hurts anything
I’m only venting for 5 minutes. It’s a 6qt and I’d rather have air pockets then run it dry
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Grogu]
#28178503 - 02/08/23 10:44 PM (11 months, 12 days ago) |
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Okay thanks guys. Yeah I know how to keep my water from boiling off too quick but I remember how the grains below the water line would always be a bursted mess and stick together. I have the jars sitting on lids and the water was about half an inch up the jars. Got another 30 min on this cycle and just getting a feel for this new cooker so I would rather err on the side of caution. I will let these jars sit uninoculated for 2 weeks anyway and in that time should see if any air pockets were present. I will use more water and vent for 15 minutes next time. Love the feedback brothers
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: fiddle_head]
#28178755 - 02/09/23 04:19 AM (11 months, 12 days ago) |
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If there is trapped air is it trapped in the jars or in the cooker? It it’s trapped in the cooker would it move around? Or sit on the top or bottom? Help me visualize the air pockets somebody! Haha
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: stubb]
#28178964 - 02/09/23 07:42 AM (11 months, 12 days ago) |
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Very good info fellas. Much appreciated
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mushymang]
#28180154 - 02/09/23 08:42 PM (11 months, 11 days ago) |
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Mushymang said: Hey sorry to ask this but I want to spawn a natalensis shoebox quickly. Don’t have time to read the 500 pages of what’s working best. Could someone tell me what seems to be the best ratio and pseudo casing? And how many total quarts of grain total? Thank you!
Run it just like cubes. 1:2 spawn to sub and a 1/8-1/4” top layer
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