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#27815691 - 06/12/22 07:49 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Dubtub question [Re: TurboL]
#27815709 - 06/12/22 08:09 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Dub it and let them grow. Did someone suggest using micropore tape? Did they say why?
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Re: Dubtub question [Re: The Tao]
#27815715 - 06/12/22 08:14 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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They just said they use it around their tub because it still allows FAE but not contams to get in
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Re: Dubtub question [Re: TurboL]
#27815845 - 06/12/22 10:03 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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It restricts airflow and does nothing to prevent contam. The S2B process is not sterile to begin with and it doesn't need to be. Just make sure you use fully colonized spawn and your sub is properly pasteurized.
You can use tape along one side of the tubs to create a hinge kinda thing.
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Re: Dubtub question [Re: TurboL]
#27815852 - 06/12/22 10:06 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Who’s they? How do they manage air exchange? I move the lid, dub tub or bag depending on what I’m using. Nothing is sterile or sanitary so what is the purpose of the tape?
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Alright I won’t use the tape, and I use 85%-100% colonized grains and it works every time, I got a ton of pins on the side and bottom of my tub so I’ll have to fix that next time but other than that it’s all going great
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Re: Dubtub question [Re: TurboL]
#27815888 - 06/12/22 10:38 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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To decrease the probability of contamination before the first harvest, it’s advisable to wait until 100% colonization.
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Re: Dubtub question [Re: KROM]
#27815964 - 06/12/22 11:38 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well idk why it doesn’t get to 100% jars man, I shake at 30% and then it only ever goes up to like 90% so i might shake again and they just go back to like 87-90% so idk what’s up with that
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Re: Dubtub question [Re: TurboL] 1
#27815966 - 06/12/22 11:39 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Usually, if mycelium refuses to colonize bits of spawn it's cause another ogranism already has.
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Re: Dubtub question [Re: TurboL]
#27815994 - 06/12/22 12:02 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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What did you inoculate the jars with? Do all the jars stall around the same time?
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Re: Dubtub question [Re: The Tao]
#27816002 - 06/12/22 12:08 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah man like 10 jars I use MSS with and they all colonize great up to like 87-90% I usually just say fuck it and spawn it and it works everytime so I don’t understand why people say it HAS HAS HAS to be 100%? Idk but mine all stall at like 90% unless I’m being impatient, I’ll have to let the next ones just sit there at 90% and see how long it takes to get to 100% but like NONE of my jars have been solid 100% full white EVER
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Yeah idk man they never contaminate, unless it’s some hidden contamination that only activates when you spawn it? Cuz my jars all have just mycelium, I even spawn jars that aren’t 100% and the tub doesn’t contam it just grows pins so idk wtf is up with jars not going to 100%? Or contaminating? Weird af
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Re: Dubtub question [Re: TurboL] 1
#27816006 - 06/12/22 12:12 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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MS to grain is inherently flawed, and this thread has a good summary of why it’s better to go spores to agar to grain: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27808630
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Re: Dubtub question [Re: TurboL]
#27816011 - 06/12/22 12:15 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
TurboL said: Yeah idk man they never contaminate, unless it’s some hidden contamination that only activates when you spawn it? Cuz my jars all have just mycelium, I even spawn jars that aren’t 100% and the tub doesn’t contam it just grows pins so idk wtf is up with jars not going to 100%? Or contaminating? Weird af
Likely bacteria, which could show up as just looking at bit more wet
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Re: Dubtub question [Re: TurboL]
#27816022 - 06/12/22 12:23 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Spore syringes aren’t clean but you can have success going to grain. Seems like you’ve been lucky. All 10 jars inoculated with the same syringe? You buying or making the syringes? Like it was mentioned, if it doesn’t get to 100% there is a reason. They’re not saying it has to be 100% to spawn, they’re using 100% as an indicator that things are good.
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Re: Dubtub question [Re: The Tao]
#27816033 - 06/12/22 12:33 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah it’s real weird man, I usually just do 5 jars with one syringe, I get them from “apparently can’t say”, going to use some future cash for agar plates, I’m just getting into agar, but hey I mean I guess if my dubtubs are pinning and I’m producing mushrooms I guess screw it for now until I can do spore>agar>grain
But for now I guess I’ll just keep spawning tubs with jars at 80-90% cuz that’s all they ever do lol. They do smell exactly like they should when I open the jars which is good, that nice earthy wet fall mushroomy smell, classic shroomy smell so idk wtf is going on it’s weird to me.
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Yes very strange, it’s like a harmless bacteria that just won’t let me jars get to 100% I spawn them at 80-90% and they still colonize my tub nicely and produce hella pins and then mushrooms so I’m just gonna role with it for now until I figure it out and I’m just getting into agar so I’ll be onto that soon
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Re: Dubtub question [Re: KROM]
#27816041 - 06/12/22 12:36 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah man I know it’s risky, so far all my jars are good though, idk wtf bacteria it would be but so far it ONLY causes jars to stop at like 80-90%. I still spawn them and it still colonizes the tub and I still get pins and I still get mushrooms so it’s weird as hell
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Re: Dubtub question [Re: TurboL]
#27816203 - 06/12/22 02:39 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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TurboL said: Yeah it’s real weird man, I usually just do 5 jars with one syringe, I get them from sporedepot, going to use some future cash for agar plates, I’m just getting into agar, but hey I mean I guess if my dubtubs are pinning and I’m producing mushrooms I guess screw it for now until I can do spore>agar>grain
But for now I guess I’ll just keep spawning tubs with jars at 80-90% cuz that’s all they ever do lol. They do smell exactly like they should when I open the jars which is good, that nice earthy wet fall mushroomy smell, classic shroomy smell so idk wtf is going on it’s weird to me.
Keep your syringes and needles, they’re easy to sterilize. Look up spore printing, It’s dead easy too. No need to buy any more spore syringes. That’ll save you some cash towards agar supplies. And you’re getting mushrooms now doing what you’re doing. Things could be worse. Take the vendor’s name out of your post.
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Re: Dubtub question [Re: The Tao]
#27816330 - 06/12/22 03:51 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Why take it out
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Re: Dubtub question [Re: TurboL] 1
#27816335 - 06/12/22 03:54 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Because it puts their livelihood at risk. Spores are for microscopy purposes only, if you choose to engage in criminal activity with them that's your personal choice. Don't involve vendors in it though since knowingly providing spores for cultivation is illegal and no one wants to get done like the late great PF
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Re: Dubtub question [Re: SirPsycho] 1
#27816370 - 06/12/22 04:23 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Because vendors sell for microscopy use only, nobody does anything but look at spores here. It’s in the rules which everyone has read and taken an oath to uphold.
“3. Spores of active species are sold for microscopy use only so mycologists can ID mushrooms. Cultivation supplies are for legitimate legal growing. If you're going to misuse them to grow a controlled substance, keep it to yourself. Any post which mentions 'such and such' vendor, will be deleted and you'll receive an official warning. No one needs to know where you got your spores, kit, or other supplies.
Also, Do not plug non sponsors.”
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