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Re: What do psychedelics mean to YOU? [Re: hazyhorse]
    #27815545 - 06/12/22 05:10 AM (13 days, 11 hours ago)

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very cool survey!! just finished. the questions were really good

i do think it might help to define a “bad trip” though, because a bad trip can be caused by both internal or external factors. having a bad trip because your buddy who’s never done mushrooms before freaked out on 5g or because you were tripping while your parents were home or something is a lot different than a bad trip that is caused by something internal like struggling with a tough break up or death or other things involving the psyche

great survey just something that crossed my mind on the questions about bad trips. i would certainly avoid talking to cops on mushrooms but i wouldn’t shy away from crying or thinking deeply about something troubling me




Thanks for the feedback! That's definitely an important nuance, and something we will consider when interpreting the results - especially in relation to the insights that some people gain from "bad trips" - a "bad trip" caused by internal factors is probably more likely to be insightful than a "bad trip" caused by parents bursting in.


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Re: What do psychedelics mean to YOU? [Re: hazyhorse]
    #27815676 - 06/12/22 09:22 AM (13 days, 7 hours ago)

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On the questions about bad trips. i would certainly avoid talking to cops on mushrooms but i wouldn’t shy away from crying or thinking deeply about something troubling me




Something that I might add further: I don't like using the term "bad trip" because of some of the baggage it brings with it. I think a more accurate term is challenging trip. I've had plenty of challenging trips resulting in sadness, fear, crying, and even feelings of hopelessness. I have yet to refer to any of those experiences as bad though. According to the researchers at Johns Hopkins, even when subjects experienced a challenging trip, most of the time they still benefited from it in the end.

Not often, but sometimes I will go into a trip knowing it will be a challenge. I dread it in the beginning because I know it's going to work me over but I know in the end the catharsis it brings will be beautiful and therapeutic.

Never a bad trip, only a challenging one.


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Re: What do psychedelics mean to YOU? [Re: Orioncat]
    #27815687 - 06/12/22 09:42 AM (13 days, 7 hours ago)

Difficult trip is def not the same as a bad trip

I have had countless difficult trips and only one bad trip.

Bad trips are traumatizing for sure


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Re: What do psychedelics mean to YOU? [Re: Tripsurfer]
    #27815795 - 06/12/22 11:21 AM (13 days, 5 hours ago)

I suppose you bring up a good point. I should remind myself of that in the future when this topic comes up again.

If you don't mind me asking, would you say your bad trip experience came from a lack of the ability to give in to the trip? Did you learn anything from the experience? Also, does the trauma still affect you. Would you have done anything differently in hindsight? I'm genuinely interested. Thank you.


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Re: What do psychedelics mean to YOU? [Re: Tripsurfer]
    #27816067 - 06/12/22 03:08 PM (13 days, 1 hour ago)

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Tripsurfer said:
Done

Unusual questions :strokebeard:




Not unusual at all. They are gauging where you are mentally. I thought it was going to be a basic survey but they asked some of the right questions.


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Re: What do psychedelics mean to YOU? [Re: Tripsurfer]
    #27816072 - 06/12/22 03:12 PM (13 days, 1 hour ago)

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Difficult trip is def not the same as a bad trip

I have had countless difficult trips and only one bad trip.

Bad trips are traumatizing for sure




I've had a difficult trip (good term) and I've had multiple bad, traumatizing trips. Made me stop doing any psychedelics and I believe partially for why I am mentally fucked up till this day. I am HOPING I can micro dose up to some place "nice" and not scarf down a doubled headed, two inch tall, half grown Blue Meanie or a bunch of Albino A+ pins lmfao... :psychsplit: :allseeingeye:

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I suppose you bring up a good point. I should remind myself of that in the future when this topic comes up again.

If you don't mind me asking, would you say your bad trip experience came from a lack of the ability to give in to the trip? Did you learn anything from the experience? Also, does the trauma still affect you. Would you have done anything differently in hindsight? I'm genuinely interested. Thank you.


I partially believe this is what happened to me and my brain chemistry has been fucked ever since. I tend to never be able to relax and need to be in control of my highs, so shrooms was a bad move for me. I live a different life damn near 10 years after I got into mycology so I am going to try and reverse time and use this gift GOD gave me to try and SEE if I can heal.

I don't believe in half the spiritual mumbo jumbo people talk about Psychedelics... But lets fucking find out!!!


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Re: What do psychedelics mean to YOU? [Re: DEZn00ts] * 1
    #27817241 - 06/13/22 10:34 AM (12 days, 6 hours ago)

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Re: What do psychedelics mean to YOU? [Re: Orioncat]
    #27818987 - 06/14/22 10:21 AM (11 days, 6 hours ago)

I would have skipped the second and third dose of high strength LSD blotter for sure

I didn't sleep for 3 days and saw rainbow aura's for 2 months


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Re: What do psychedelics mean to YOU? [Re: Tripsurfer]
    #27819199 - 06/14/22 01:48 PM (11 days, 3 hours ago)

TY for doing this work!!

It would be intersting to be kept updated here on the number of responses you are getting.


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Re: What do psychedelics mean to YOU? [Re: oe_crf]
    #27819615 - 06/14/22 06:34 PM (10 days, 22 hours ago)

Interesting


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Re: What do psychedelics mean to YOU? [Re: Neurotech]
    #27820209 - 06/15/22 03:32 AM (10 days, 13 hours ago)

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TY for doing this work!!

It would be intersting to be kept updated here on the number of responses you are getting.




Thank you for participating! Currently, approx. 80 Shroomery users have completed the survey and approx. 20 have partially completed it. We are still getting new responses every day!

Thanks everyone for continuing to support this, and glad to see some of the questions have sparked an interesting debate about challenging experiences :smile:


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Re: What do psychedelics mean to YOU? [Re: oe_crf]
    #27820234 - 06/15/22 03:58 AM (10 days, 13 hours ago)

Psychedelics are like the precious Soma.. water flower., pomegranate flower.. hemlock flower.. bittersweet flower..aroma rose 🌹


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Re: What do psychedelics mean to YOU? [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #27821084 - 06/15/22 07:34 PM (9 days, 21 hours ago)

I'd love to see the raw data when yall are done collecting it if possible.


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Re: What do psychedelics mean to YOU? [Re: oe_crf]
    #27821544 - 06/16/22 12:03 AM (9 days, 16 hours ago)

Just finished. Interesting survey. Hopefully the results will be shared when finished collecting data.


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Re: What do psychedelics mean to YOU? [Re: CharlizTherunicorn]
    #27821888 - 06/16/22 04:35 AM (9 days, 12 hours ago)

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Ashtray161 said:
I'd love to see the raw data when yall are done collecting it if possible.



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Just finished. Interesting survey. Hopefully the results will be shared when finished collecting data.




Thank you both! It's great that you find the questions and data interesting.

We will not share the raw data, however, due to ethical and privacy considerations regarding individual-level data. But, we can and will share aggregated results of responses to the questions :smile:


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Re: What do psychedelics mean to YOU? [Re: oe_crf]
    #27822162 - 06/16/22 10:40 AM (9 days, 6 hours ago)

Insight.  But not to go far.  As told by whatever that is that if I did I would ruin my being born and the not to respect the veil.  And believe me you will be warned at least in my experience.  What their is to explore in or limited mortality was communicated to that I waited a EXTREEMLY long time to be born an have a body and what I can do with it.  WAKE UP!  You get it when you get it.

Then most just want to assist waking up that in their selves but so much a blind man yet I get why, to a degree, why I am here and chose this as all of us did.  IMO.  Make up your own mind.

Quite an adventure isn't it?  Yet in the spirit world, made me laugh a person saying some beings got pissed off because he was interacting with them and not "dead" yet.  Never think for a second that suicide, which is the stupidist thing a person can do, will allieviate problems and bring happiness.  No.  Enjoy your body as we are all mortal.  Whoever made up this construct great.  My respect to it. 

Simple, take esoterics and one sees through people.  One sees through fake people and governments.  People don't like that, corrupted people within.  Whether with religions, prisons, government, families, I get it.  I am not in charge of things.  Spiritual law.  I fucked with it and wow did I get the worse experience I have had in my life so far.  Being cut off from the grid that connects everything and I mean everything.  No one or group has a trademark on it.  Compared to what the government did to me those 10 minutes compared to 3 months and 10 years probation was nothing.

So it humbled me.  Am a lot careful now how I tread in life and the spirit world.


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Re: What do psychedelics mean to YOU? [Re: Barnaby]
    #27822215 - 06/16/22 11:49 AM (9 days, 5 hours ago)

Lateral thinking.


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Re: What do psychedelics mean to YOU? [Re: durian_2008]
    #27822257 - 06/16/22 12:21 PM (9 days, 4 hours ago)

I took the survey, and I love that people are doing this kind of research.


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Re: What do psychedelics mean to YOU? [Re: durian_2008] * 1
    #27822338 - 06/16/22 01:09 PM (9 days, 3 hours ago)

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Lateral thinking.




Had no idea what it was, so thanks for mentioning it. Here is a quiz to asses your lateral thinking:

http://www.theeducators.co/2013/10/20/lateral-thinking/


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Re: What do psychedelics mean to YOU? [Re: Neurotech]
    #27822521 - 06/16/22 03:03 PM (9 days, 1 hour ago)

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Lateral thinking.




Had no idea what it was, so thanks for mentioning it. Here is a quiz to asses your lateral thinking:

http://www.theeducators.co/2013/10/20/lateral-thinking/




I accidently touched that link and my phone flagged it as a phishing site. Be warned


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