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Adequate light for shoeboxes?
    #27809089 - 06/06/22 11:40 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Hey everybody, this is my 2nd grow and I decided to go with shoeboxes. My first was Pf Tek. I followed one of our members teks to the "T" and the set/forget tek is awesome. I do have a question about lighting though because I moved these boxes to a closet after I had them sitting by a window for a week. I couldn't keep them by the window anymore so I took the light from the SGFC and hung it over the bar that I hang my clothes on. Is this enough indirect light for these guys go grow properly?


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Re: Adequate light for shoeboxes? [Re: Headspace111]
    #27809104 - 06/07/22 12:01 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

You should be fine with that light.  You might want to rotate once every few days just to give even light.

I use a single cfl light in the top of my closet for my five shoebox space.

What kind of bulb is that and what is the wattage?


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Re: Adequate light for shoeboxes? [Re: Vibetyme]
    #27809108 - 06/07/22 12:07 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

I've been rotating every couple days, so that good you mentioned it. It's the light that came with the Midwest Grow Kit Mega kit. This is the description taken right from their site:

36 Diode HP LED Grow Light
Grower's Select LED Mushroom Light
125 Watt Equivalent - 900 lumens - Uses only 15 Watts
Custom built with dual spectrum technology
6350K to stimulate pinning & growth
5000K to sustain natural daylight rhythms
360 degree lighting coverage

I didn't have any problems with it during my SGFC run but that box was on the floor next to window as well.

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Re: Adequate light for shoeboxes? [Re: Headspace111]
    #27809111 - 06/07/22 12:11 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

I also did a couple different things with the boxes. I mostly kept the 1:2 sub ration but changed it to 1:1.5, and 1:1.75 on a couple. Also did CVG on a couple boxes and did one box with CV and horse manure. Not sure if ill see any difference between the boxes but it was still cool to think I'm doing an experiment lol

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Re: Adequate light for shoeboxes? [Re: Headspace111]
    #27809700 - 06/07/22 01:23 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

I'm also having pins growing in the bottom of the box and growing on the side and starting to grow back down into the substrate. Not side pins on the side of the wall just the very edge of the substrate and going back down into it. Also the boxes I did 1:1.5 are showing signs of trich. But they are close to being finished. Can I harvest before the trich takes over the box or should I just dump the whole box?








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Re: Adequate light for shoeboxes? [Re: Vibetyme]
    #27810326 - 06/07/22 11:11 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

I've been reading about trich in general and people are saying that it's ok to harvest if you have trich, just throw out and bad mush. With the set and forget tek can I just leave these boxes with my others and throw out after the first flush? I made these boxes in my garage so I'm guessing the dust flying around when I made them is the source of the trich?

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Re: Adequate light for shoeboxes? [Re: Headspace111]
    #27810357 - 06/08/22 12:15 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

I would recommend separating the box with trich from the others as a precaution to prevent it from spreading to the others. You will be able to harvest what you can from that tub  but will have to toss it after this flush.

As far as the source of the trich, it's hard to say but it is more then likely from the spawn, caused from bad/dirty technique or inoculation method.

That being said, it would very well be possible it came from the environment like you said, I'm not implying anything against you... just based on what I've learned in the past 6 ish months.

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Re: Adequate light for shoeboxes? [Re: mtshrooms]
    #27810364 - 06/08/22 12:36 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

I used an SAB, used alcohol on everything, torched the needle, wore gloves and arm sleeves, covered the air vent in the room with tape, wore a surgical mask. I'm hoping it's not my technique lol. I'm here to learn to I don't take anything personally if someone mentions what I might have done wrong. The thing that sticks in my mind is that both contamed boxes are 1:1.5 ration while my others are 1:2 and aren't showing any signs yet. Also the two boxes are from the same 3 lb spawn bag. Any thoughts?

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Re: Adequate light for shoeboxes? [Re: Headspace111]
    #27810378 - 06/08/22 01:00 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Trich doesn't cross contaminate like that.  Obviously it's not good to keep it around any longer than necessary just for hygene reasons, but it's not going to kill you or future tubs.  Clean spawn will fruit if provided the appropriate environment.  MS > grain spawn is always a gamble.

The problem you'll likely run into is that once trich fruits, it's pretty rare for the weaker mushroom mycelium to be able to pin at all.  If they're not already pinning when you see the green monster, just toss it.

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Re: Adequate light for shoeboxes? [Re: PBJ710]
    #27810389 - 06/08/22 01:42 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

The two tubs im running that have Trich in them are Rusty Whyte and both tubs already have growing mush in them, past pins. I've been reading that its ok to continue the run and sort out the bad mush if there is any. Some of them look like blobs but they are starting to look like mush. I didn't want to open the box again after I saw the contamination or I would take a pic. When I did look though there were no green spots on the top of the substrate. It seems like its only affecting the bottom with yellow discoloration and the side with a few tiny green spots. Why would it take so long to start showing? I made those boxes on 5/23.

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Re: Adequate light for shoeboxes? [Re: Headspace111]
    #27810793 - 06/08/22 12:23 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

I think you will be fine.  Just let them grow and re-evaluate every day. 

Personally If it is green I would boil those that have trich in the tub with them and make tea.  You can freeze any left overs.  You would probably be fine just dehydrating those but I stay on the safer side.

I don't see anything too concerning in the pics. Just some metabolites and smooshed side pins from what I can tell.

Take more pics of the tub when you do take the lid off to harvest and we can tell you what's up a little better.


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Re: Adequate light for shoeboxes? [Re: Vibetyme]
    #27811546 - 06/09/22 12:01 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Ok I'll get some pics in the next couple days. Why are the pins growing on the bottom of the tub? Will they break the cake or eventually start to grow up towards the top? With these mush being so close to the trich will they be gooey soon? I'm looking at all my boxes and they seem to have aerial rhizomorphs but I read that its also a sign of trich. How do you distinguish between the two?

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Re: Adequate light for shoeboxes? [Re: Headspace111]
    #27811829 - 06/09/22 07:56 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

A liner always helps me prevent side pins. Sometimes they do funky shit no matter what we do.

Im talking to you upside down mushroom!

The sub shrinks and it creates a perfect microclimate for mushrooms to grow. Liner for the win! It is an extra step but well worth it!

Trich doesn't look like rhizo growth.

It is usually bright white and then starts to turn green over a couple/few days. It is fast as hell too so I'm hoping you don't have it.


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Re: Adequate light for shoeboxes? [Re: Vibetyme]
    #27811867 - 06/09/22 08:18 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Adequate light for shoeboxes? [Re: Vibetyme]
    #27818744 - 06/14/22 01:32 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Sorry been busy harvesting last couple days. I have a thought though.. the light im using is it able to turn all the mush white? The G.T. I grew came out white, the Rusty Whyte obviously, but the Penis Envy Uncut came out white also. Does the type of light change the color characteristics of mush? Here's some snaps of what I've been up to the last couple days...


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Re: Adequate light for shoeboxes? [Re: Vibetyme]
    #27818748 - 06/14/22 01:38 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Also one of the AA boxes im running i made with horse poo and CV. The substrate has caked up and now I have poo water sloshing around the bottom of the box. Should I dump  the water? I have to admit its growing faster than the other 2 boxes I made that day. My other boxes have a nice consistency of water droplets but the poo box has just water congregating at the bottom and isn't making me too trusting of it. I mean they do grow on poo so could it be ok?

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