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Trudeau moves to ban handguns based on US shooting * 1
    #27799447 - 05/30/22 07:25 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/canadas-trudeau-announces-legislation-prevent-buying-selling-handguns-2022-05-30/

LOL, who does this guy think he is?

What kind of loser moves to restrict the freedoms of his people based on something that didn't even happen in his country?

I think it's safe to say that only criminals will be able to buy handguns in Canada after this passes. A dream come true for every gangster, thug and thief in Canada!

What a complete joke of a leader :facepalm:

I will never understand why these limp wristed cowards like Justin want to act like dictators. Does he get some kind of sick pleasure by abusing his power in this way?

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Re: Trudeau moves to ban handguns based on US shooting [Re: chopstick] * 1
    #27799450 - 05/30/22 07:26 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Canada already had much stricter gun regulations.

He probably thinks he is the Prime Minister that was elected democratically.


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Re: Trudeau moves to ban handguns based on US shooting [Re: christopera]
    #27799505 - 05/30/22 08:05 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

We're there 60 failed lawsuits and 17 recounts to make sure his election was legit though ?


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Re: Trudeau moves to ban handguns based on US shooting [Re: chopstick]
    #27799590 - 05/30/22 09:38 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Canada has been moving down this road for awhile.  I don't know enough to say whether he's done anything outside of the scope of his office which is what I assume you mean by abuse.


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Re: Trudeau moves to ban handguns based on US shooting [Re: ballsalsa] * 2
    #27799601 - 05/30/22 09:47 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

I would personally say that him jumping on the deaths of 19 children in fuckin' Texas to pass borderline totalitarian gun control policies is a staggering abuse of power.

The Canadian people will hardly have any say in the matter.

Meanwhile, he is committed to arming fanatical Ukrainian Neo-Nazi's with thousands of hand grenades and rocket launchers.

"Rocket launchers for Nazi's that will be used on civilians? Hell yeah! Handguns for my own citizens to protect themselves - LOL NO, we can't have that, guns in the hands of my own citizens bad!" - Trudeau

Throw in the way he oppressed his people during the whole trucker affair, and arbitrarily froze thousands of bank accounts, it is pretty clear at this point that the cucked loser truly is a wannabe dictator.

The guy is so afraid of the people he can't even let them own a simple 9mm pistol lmfao.

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Re: Trudeau moves to ban handguns based on US shooting [Re: chopstick]
    #27799679 - 05/31/22 12:12 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Facts


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Re: Trudeau moves to ban handguns based on US shooting [Re: r3volution.gurl] * 3
    #27799728 - 05/31/22 01:53 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

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The Canadian people will hardly have any say in the matter.




Oh, did you ask "the Canadian people" for their say? The Yukon has the highest rate of gun-ownership in Canada (1/3 individuals, 2/3 households) - people who use guns as everyday facets of our lives - so I feel I might have a better sense of how the people most affected by firearm regulation are saying than whatever blog you read today.

Here's the sitch: just like the new laws passed in the wake of the Nova Scotia massacre, these changes to Canadian gun control are mostly preformative legislation that doesn't significantly change the currently existing landscape in Canada. It's great material to satisfy urban voters unfamiliar with firearms without doing much to make illegal guns harder to access, and it's great rage bait for people like Choppy without doing much to make legal guns harder to access - and that's about it.

Handguns were already essentially banned in Canada, outside of highly-restricted use at a range or special exemption for certain professions - in the Yukon, prospectors and trappers frequently qualify for this exemption (protection from wildlife), and the exemption won't be effected by this legislation. The only thing that this ban changes is that range-use has gotten more restricted - something that represents an incredibly small portion of Canadian gun owners.

On the other hand, the proposal to take away firearms licences from those involved in domestic violence is something I massively support. The Yukon has one of Canada's highest rates of violent crime, and intimate partner violence combined with the reality of rural living and lack of access to social services (like safe housing) is undoubtedly a significant driver behind this violence. The root of this problem isn't from illegal guns smuggled over the border - guns used in intimate partner violence are overwhelmingly legally possessed. Recognizing this association and taken steps to address it is a good change. This new legislation might not address gang shootings in Toronto or Vancouver, but it sure as hell makes a step in the right direction for addressing some of the recommendations from the MMIWG inquiry by forming a zero tolerance policy for domestic abusers and firearms.


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Re: Trudeau moves to ban handguns based on US shooting [Re: chopstick] * 4
    #27799950 - 05/31/22 08:43 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

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chopstick said:


What kind of loser moves to restrict the freedoms of his people based on something that didn't even happen in his country?






I challenge you to reflect on this statement.


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Re: Trudeau moves to ban handguns based on US shooting [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 1
    #27800091 - 05/31/22 10:33 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

That's a lot of justification you're pulling out of your behind to justify Trudeau's blatant powergrabbing nonsense. Truly these idiots will never let a good crisis go to waste, even if said crisis was not in their country. It's pathetic. And just because handguns "were already hard to get" does not mean it is suddenly okay to make it completely impossible.

Is this clown the best Canada can do? I mean I know I don't have much room to talk here with Biden in office, but to be fair Biden was not legitimately elected.

Why is Trudeau such a coward to be afraid of his people owning a 9mm glock? It's not like a handgun is particularly threatening to those in authority. Or is he simply taking orders from Biden to enact this now like how he took orders during the trucking protests?

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Re: Trudeau moves to ban handguns based on US shooting [Re: chopstick]
    #27800189 - 05/31/22 11:30 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

But it's not "completely impossible" - despite your thread title, this legislation doesn't ban handguns. Professional exemptions, and transfers/sales between licenced businesses and exempted individuals are unaffected by this legislation.

Try reading the primary source instead of one of your blogs, and refer me to the section that bans handguns in Canada: https://www.parl.ca/DocumentViewer/en/44-1/bill/C-21/first-reading

A brief summary:
Implementing a national freeze on handguns to prevent individuals from bringing newly acquired handguns into Canada and from buying, selling, and transferring handguns within the country.
Taking away the firearms licenses of those involved in acts of domestic violence or criminal harassment, such as stalking.
Fighting gun smuggling and trafficking by increasing criminal penalties, providing more tools for law enforcement to investigate firearms crimes, and strengthening border security measures.
Addressing intimate partner violence, gender-based violence, and self-harm involving firearms by creating a new “red flag” law that would enable courts to require that individuals considered a danger to themselves or others surrender their firearms to law enforcement, while protecting the safety of the individual applying to the red flag process, including by protecting their identity.


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Re: Trudeau moves to ban handguns based on US shooting [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #27800205 - 05/31/22 11:39 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Furthermore,


2020 Nova Scotia attacks

2021 Faro, Yukon shootings

2022 Man shot dead by Toronto police after schools locked down had pellet gun, police watchdog says



Despite what your blogs tell you about Trudeau and Biden, this legislation is a response to domestic issues.


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Re: Trudeau moves to ban handguns based on US shooting [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 1
    #27800248 - 05/31/22 12:09 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

A self-styled anarchist that defends the gun grabbing authoritarian policies of a criminal government. Hmmm.

Despite what you seem to think, I have not read any blogs on this subject (the blogs I read discuss foreign policy, not Canadian politics.) But nice assumption :rolleyes:

Here is a BBC article on the subject:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61641543

Canada should introduce a total ban on the buying and selling of all handguns, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has said.

His government is proposing a new law that would freeze private ownership of all short-barrelled firearms.

The legislation would not ban the ownership of handguns outright - but would make it illegal to buy them.

The bill, which was presented to Canada's parliament on Monday, makes it impossible to buy, sell, transfer or import handguns anywhere in the country.

"Other than using firearms for sport shooting and hunting, there is no reason anyone in Canada should need guns in their everyday lives," Mr Trudeau told reporters.


So basically - despite your attempt to explain this away with your half-assed logic - Trudeau is making it illegal for ANY handguns to be bought unless it is for sport shooting or hunting. That is absolutely unacceptable - the coward Trudeau refuses to even acknowledge the fact that somebody might need a handgun to defend themselves from violent criminals. In so doing, he is denying people their God Given right to defend themselves if it came down to it.

Clearly, this law has very little to do with domestic abusers and everything to do with Trudeau being a gun grabbing loser. Even though there is a domestic abuse clause, this is only an addition to the bill to justify it - it's main purpose is still to ban the sales of all handguns in the country.

You want to pretend that there are no ulterior authoritarian motives at work here and the fact he is doing this right after the shooting in Texas is just a coincidence. Lol, dude, how can you lie to yourself like this? It's incredible to me the lengths you will go to justify this in your mind.

Do you vote for Trudeau's party? Do you really think this imbecile is good for your country?

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Re: Trudeau moves to ban handguns based on US shooting [Re: chopstick]
    #27800258 - 05/31/22 12:16 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Canada doesn't have a constitutionally protected right to bear arms


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Re: Trudeau moves to ban handguns based on US shooting [Re: ballsalsa]
    #27800262 - 05/31/22 12:18 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

They do in God’s eyes :crankey:
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Re: Trudeau moves to ban handguns based on US shooting [Re: chopstick]
    #27800268 - 05/31/22 12:20 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

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Why is Trudeau such a coward





Way to twist things as you see fit.

Banning handguns requires a courage no US president yet could muster.


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Re: Trudeau moves to ban handguns based on US shooting [Re: ballsalsa]
    #27800282 - 05/31/22 12:24 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

And these changes to the law are widely supported.

There's nothing to even complain about.


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Re: Trudeau moves to ban handguns based on US shooting [Re: Asante] * 2
    #27800293 - 05/31/22 12:32 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

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Quote:

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Why is Trudeau such a coward





Way to twist things as you see fit.

Banning handguns requires a courage no US president yet could muster.




There are very few people here who would cheer on their own disarmament.

We both know the vast majority of gun owners are responsible. Which means banning them for everyone is a poor solution that hurts the majority because of some bad apples.

No US president can just ban handguns. There is the 2nd amendment and then there are individual state policies, who can literally ignore federal policy if they want.

But anyway, why do you think everyone should be disarmed because of the occasional lunatic? Won't simply banning all firearms result in a black market like other forms of prohibition?

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Re: Trudeau moves to ban handguns based on US shooting [Re: chopstick]
    #27800298 - 05/31/22 12:38 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

You seem to be creating a nation full of armed lunatics.


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Re: Trudeau moves to ban handguns based on US shooting [Re: chopstick]
    #27800305 - 05/31/22 12:44 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

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chopstick said:and then there are individual state policies, who can literally ignore federal policy if they want.




No they can't. That's literally illegal under the pre-emption clause. Of course, you're a right winger, and a common belief on the right is that the law is whatever they say, not actually what is written in the lawbooks.

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Re: Trudeau moves to ban handguns based on US shooting [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #27800309 - 05/31/22 12:46 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

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Quote:

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What kind of loser moves to restrict the freedoms of his people based on something that didn't even happen in his country?






I challenge you to reflect on this statement.




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