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What the HECK is this? Worms? * 1
    #27798975 - 05/30/22 12:09 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

These pictures are from last night:


These pictures are from approx. eight hours later:


Some kinds of worm? Insect? Any idea what's going on here?
I'm giving up on the tub (it never really took off) but I'd love to know what got in there, and how.

Woah....

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Re: What the HECK is this? Worms? [Re: Mollee]
    #27798983 - 05/30/22 12:14 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

:whattefuck2:

That's wild. What kind of sub are you using?


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Re: What the HECK is this? Worms? [Re: Mollee]
    #27798989 - 05/30/22 12:18 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Some kind of Stemonitis slime mold maybe?  Your substrate looks super wet.

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Re: What the HECK is this? Worms? [Re: The Fresh Prints]
    #27798990 - 05/30/22 12:19 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Slime mold, Stemonitis.

Edit, pbj beat me by 12 seconds.

Edited by MrBlueshrooms (05/30/22 12:20 PM)

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Re: What the HECK is this? Worms? [Re: MrBlueshrooms]
    #27798995 - 05/30/22 12:21 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

what the fuck?? make sure it doesn’t gain sentience. keep a flame thrower on hand


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Re: What the HECK is this? Worms? [Re: Mollee]
    #27798996 - 05/30/22 12:23 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Thats so cool, it could be hungry amoebas that formed hitch hiker stalks for an animal to step on an transfer it to new area.


Wipe it with a cotton swab an save a sample, someone here has a microscope.


Did you pasteurize it at high enough temps?

Consider all substrate contaminated cause it is untill you pasteurize it.









It is an amoebozoa, its hungry an run out of food.

You can grow them from those stalks, they are very interesting under microscope.

Some are classified as cellular engineers that rip open cell walls to eat the chloroplast and can form debris shells to protect themselves from fire.


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Re: What the HECK is this? Worms? [Re: Ladyboner swordfi]
    #27799007 - 05/30/22 12:30 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Fuckin nuts! And the difference in that 8hrs! That is cool and weird.


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Re: What the HECK is this? Worms? [Re: Guerrilla]
    #27799012 - 05/30/22 12:36 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

That's fucking creepy burn the whole fucking house down.

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Re: What the HECK is this? Worms? [Re: Guerrilla]
    #27799016 - 05/30/22 12:37 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Wtf, I would burn my house down but not before first trying to cultivation it.

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Re: What the HECK is this? Worms? [Re: Mollee]
    #27799023 - 05/30/22 12:40 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: What the HECK is this? Worms? [Re: Mollee]
    #27799027 - 05/30/22 12:44 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Wild, huh?  :eek:

Y'all are saying something fungal, but doesn't it look like a set of eggs? And then those last pictures look (to me) like whatever hatched went crawling back down and left tubes behind? Or something?

I'm super curious and will let this tub hang out for a while - see if anything else worth photographing pops up.

(And yes, I'll keep my electrified net and flamethrower handy! :laugh2:)

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Re: What the HECK is this? Worms? [Re: Mollee]
    #27799032 - 05/30/22 12:50 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Slime mold it is!
An image search for "slime mold fruiting" turns up lots of cousins of this thing. Cool...

And yea - that tub is way wet. This is my first time growing and I've had modest success with cakes, but feeble results from tubs. This tub was my only total fail - clearly the moisture was part of that! *snork*

But hey - cool photos of a slime mold as consolation prize??  :/

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Re: What the HECK is this? Worms? [Re: Mollee]
    #27799043 - 05/30/22 01:00 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Its not fungi at all.

Its hungry amoebas that came together to form a stalk so a passing animal can transfer it to new locations.

Its not fruiting its just hungry.



They live all throughout your wet soil, you didnt pasteurize your coir, it would have likely ate your plates.


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Re: What the HECK is this? Worms? [Re: Ladyboner swordfi]
    #27799049 - 05/30/22 01:07 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Nature is cool as fuck.

Weird as shit, but very cool

:neat:

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Re: What the HECK is this? Worms? [Re: Nimpo]
    #27799059 - 05/30/22 01:14 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Woah thats super wild

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Re: What the HECK is this? Worms? [Re: Broom]
    #27799066 - 05/30/22 01:25 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Those are straight up eggs. What kind of eggs? Who knows. They look like snail eggs. But obviously not that. Weird.


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Re: What the HECK is this? Worms? [Re: Ladyboner swordfi]
    #27799068 - 05/30/22 01:25 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

And more internet digging turns up this page:
https://owlcation.com/stem/Exploring-Social-Amoebas-Cellular-Slime-Molds-and-Dictyostelids

"Social amoeba" appears to be synonymous with "cellular slime mold"
(Is that right?)

And you're right - I didn't pasteurize the coir. At least this learning lesson is kinda cool!

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Re: What the HECK is this? Worms? [Re: MTZ]
    #27799071 - 05/30/22 01:27 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

MTZ said:
Those are straight up eggs. What kind of eggs? Who knows. They look like snail eggs. But obviously not that. Weird.



Chocolate tube slime mold. Stemonitis.

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Re: What the HECK is this? Worms? [Re: Mollee]
    #27799073 - 05/30/22 01:27 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Nobody pasteurises their coir anymore :shrug:

It's not necessary.


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Re: What the HECK is this? Worms? [Re: Ladyboner swordfi]
    #27799088 - 05/30/22 01:38 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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You can grow them from those stalks, they are very interesting under microscope.





I do have a microscope, and I'll be getting into agar in not too long. I feel a project coming on!  *laugh*

Anyone else want samples of this beastie?

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Re: What the HECK is this? Worms? [Re: Mollee] * 1
    #27799106 - 05/30/22 02:18 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

I run into slime molds pretty frequently with indoor woodlover cultivation attempts and this one is definitely an interesting stemonitis specimen, I haven't seen this one quite yet but I've seen other similar chocolate tube stemonitis variants.

What you're seeing is the sporanglia, and in the same vein as mushroom cultivation by the time you see the sporanglia (sporulating structures) it implies the organism has already established itself via its earlier lifecycle.

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Re: What the HECK is this? Worms? [Re: Mycoplex] * 1
    #27799161 - 05/30/22 03:07 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

That is awesome.  I'd kind of like to cultivate slime molds someday just to study them.  It's so alien looking.  I imagine walking on an alien planet and seeing that growing in large scale.  Sort of like this...



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Re: What the HECK is this? Worms? [Re: Elf_on_a_Log]
    #27799384 - 05/30/22 06:05 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Huh. Learn something new all the time. Poke er with a stick.

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Re: What the HECK is this? Worms? [Re: Mollee]
    #27799589 - 05/30/22 09:37 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Its possible it hitched hiked on a plate but i imagine amoebas eating through and being noticeable.


It could of came from your hands, hair or debris in the air.

Its possible in doesn't interfere with them on the plates full of nutrients..
There should be test done to see the interaction.

You can always terminate a plate.

You said your tub is not putting out this may be why?




Possibly I may except a sample in the future for scope work.
Those stalks should last in a cool tube.

Amoebas are very crafty like microscopic octopi.


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Re: What the HECK is this? Worms? [Re: Ladyboner swordfi]
    #27799651 - 05/30/22 10:49 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

These can be intentionally cultured too with wet rotting wood.

It's possible for a piece of rotten wood to contain multiple slime molds.  In my experience they also "attach" to plants in the tub, like in cases where I had white clover planted.

They appear to survive pasteurization in my experience, and I would imagine it's possible to culture them by pasteurizing wood chips and dropping them on agar.  Obviously there would be massive amounts of cleanup needed with this approach but this is what I mean by 'culturing' them from wood chips.

@Elf, I actually have this series on hardcopy, lol.  Still have yet to go through it, it was one of the series I did not watch even though it was popular in my day.

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Re: What the HECK is this? Worms? [Re: Mycoplex]
    #27799658 - 05/30/22 11:01 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

woah..... thats fucked hahaha :lolsy:


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Re: What the HECK is this? Worms? [Re: Ladyboner swordfi]
    #27799665 - 05/30/22 11:20 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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Amoebas are very crafty like microscopic octopi.




Ha!!! I love it.
Octopi are amazingly cool. I'm delighted by your comparison.
*broad grin*

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Re: What the HECK is this? Worms? [Re: Mollee]
    #27800134 - 05/31/22 11:01 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Just study them for day by reading an it will make you redefine intelligence.

As a primate it is threating how well they can assess risk an maneuver/ manipulate they're environment with so little brain power.
An amorphous body is extremely beneficial.

They use basic tools to as well, like debris sheilds/shells to survive peat bog fires.





There needs to be done much more research on them.
Like antibiotics for the brain eating amoebas which will be more common with global warming.


They are possibly the cure for cancer if you can train them to eat the cancerous tissue an not healthy tissue.
A replacement immune system for aids patients ect.

To me I would ask why on earth would you build a robot when there's this organism to partner up with.


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Re: What the HECK is this? Worms? [Re: Ladyboner swordfi] * 1
    #27800143 - 05/31/22 11:06 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

There was a study where they arranged oat grains in a way that represents the Tokyo subway system, and the slime molds found the most efficient interconnection between the nodes as far as an actual rail system would also be concerned.

https://www.wired.com/2010/01/slime-mold-grows-network-just-like-tokyo-rail-system/

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Re: What the HECK is this? Worms? [Re: Mycoplex] * 1
    #27800892 - 05/31/22 09:42 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Holywow, that's ridiculously cool!

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Re: What the HECK is this? Worms? [Re: Mollee] * 1
    #27800943 - 05/31/22 10:40 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Reminds me of the movie evolution.. the end has begun.. hide the women and children

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