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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #27791734 - 05/25/22 03:52 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

:lol: I always thought it was just me that took a nap 20 mins after eating shrooms.


If you can handle 4g of cubes lemontek you’ll prob have a great time on 2-3g natal.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: A.k.a]
    #27791774 - 05/25/22 04:55 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Lol I've fallen asleep a few times, usually during the first hour. I remember eating 3.5g Ban Hua Thanon and 3g Cinctulus and fell asleep for most of it. The come-up can make me tired and anxious and I'll lie down to try to calm my mind, sometimes I just fall asleep.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Mr.Giggles] * 3
    #27791779 - 05/25/22 05:01 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Never had an afterglow so amazing as after 1.7g nats...


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Forrester]
    #27791790 - 05/25/22 05:15 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

My last nat experience was all anime and my couch.
Just chilled in a total blissful daze while evangelion confused me as I went in and out of psychedelic consciousness.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #27791816 - 05/25/22 05:58 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Well shoot, I better streak some plates today then! It's a rainy day here anyhow, I won't be morel hunting. I've been thinking Of procuring some semperviva too, those and nats sound superior to cubes. Less nausea and disorientation/mindfuck sounds nice. Idk what it is but I don't really get an afterglow either like I did when I was young, back then 1.75g would blow my mind though.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: bagga]
    #27791988 - 05/25/22 08:43 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

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I went from no contam ever, to a new space where nearly everything was fucked.

I lost pans and cubes at fruiting to trich. Pans did better than cubes (100% fail), but fail rate was still very high. Luck or resilience, nats were the only thing that wasn't trichin most of the time.

Somehow during colonization my jars were contaminating, sterile unopen jars too if left long enough. Don't know if it was weird airflow, tiny gnats or evil shroom ghosts... I don't have an explanation, something was getting into jars.

Inoculating and colonizing in a different room, solved it 100%.

TLDR, nats seem quite resilient, I grew both and they don't seem incompatible.




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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Mycelium Juice] * 1
    #27792041 - 05/25/22 09:15 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

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If I think the 4g of GTs is something I want to use as a starting point, should I be looking at 2.5-3g nats?




Don't take my word for it until next week :wink:, but I think if 4g of GT works for you that sounds more like 2-2.5g of Nats?  But, also sounds like we splitting hairs.
At this point of my life mushrooms are medicine- so if not micro-dosing, but more on the macro side of things- I feel like the most important part of it is set and setting.  If you're in a comfortable/safe place to go deep, and you have more intention then just partying- by the time the mushies hit you- you can handle a lot.  Again set and setting.  Make it intentional.  It will most always help :mushroom2:




We’re in the same place regarding use, intention, and set and setting. I’ve been working my way up, and it has sped up my psychological and emotional healing dramatically over therapy alone. I’m not a partying user at all. I clear the day and make time for the integration work.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: BlueAndOrange] * 4
    #27792062 - 05/25/22 09:28 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

2.5-3 dry grams of Nats is an amazing and strong trip, but quite different than a cube experience. Waves of euphoria, long lasting afterglow with strong anxiolytic effects, sociability, and I also seem to have much less trouble falling asleep on the comedown than I do with cubes. That last one is a big plus for me, because one of my biggest troubles with tripping is the insomnia it causes after the trip wanes and my body and eyes are tired but I just can’t sleep.

Now that I have a nice stash of Nats it takes willpower not to take them multiple times a week. They are so pleasurable and chill. I’m thinking of starting a micro-dose regimen with them, since they put me in such an uplifted mood.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: MysticMycologist]
    #27792108 - 05/25/22 09:51 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

My Nats don’t like like they’re gunna fruit again. 20 days in and starting to look like a hot mess again. The not having insomnia afterwards would be a massive plus for me!


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: SwabMarley] * 3
    #27792348 - 05/25/22 01:22 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

I don't trip much but the last few times has been early in the morning. Usually drinking lemon/mush or honey shot by 5:30 AM and some yoga or a shower til the show starts. Maybe this might help avoid the insomnia for you gents? Watching the sun rise with some chill music is a nice way to start the day! Depending on the species of mush you ate, eventually take a nap or drift into the day bathed in the afterglow. I'll usually have some coffee after an hour or two, caffeine and theobromine can be your friend!

Natalensis is such a great mush to grow and enjoy that I have mixed feelings about the genetics crossing going on. On one hand, it is cool AF that Dr. Doom and others are making a variety of crosses between Nats and cubes. The posts and pictures you guys are sharing are great!

The "old man on the porch, screaming to get off my lawn" in me is saving my genetics as they are! They are beautiful, strong but gentle. :smile:


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: YoshiTrainer] * 3
    #27792398 - 05/25/22 02:00 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

I'd trip in the morning more, but my experience so far hasn't been super positive. I want to get into the trip with a mostly clear mind, with most of the day's anxieties and responsibilities already behind me. In the morning I'm the least emotionally stable so I avoid it. To each their own, of course, I just wouldn't recommend it.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Adas] * 5
    #27792503 - 05/25/22 03:32 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Nothing better than waking up at 3am, dosing and doing a Wim Hof breathing and cold shower as I'm waiting for effects. Can't get a clearer headspace than that.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Forrester] * 2
    #27792719 - 05/25/22 06:40 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Dosing before sunrise is my ultimate favorite way to start a day.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Land Trout] * 1
    #27792759 - 05/25/22 07:03 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

I think I see knots?

This is my mini tester



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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: san pedro guy]
    #27792857 - 05/25/22 08:02 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Yup, I do too.

Here's a crosspost of a nice Nat pin on the G1 plate of a pheno I'm looking to stabilize (wavy caps).  Don't know about the potency but this one went to its own clone plate to better capture the myc that generated it and the rest went onto grain:



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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Forrester] * 2
    #27793408 - 05/26/22 08:19 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

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Nothing better than waking up at 3am, dosing and doing a Wim Hof breathing and cold shower as I'm waiting for effects. Can't get a clearer headspace than that.





I had tried to do this stuff and it was so brutal I just gave it up. A while later I was in a situation where it was ice cold showers or nothing, the first ones were excruciating but by the 3-4th time I was starting to look forward to it even though it still sucked. Whatever endorphins freezing water hits your brain with are the shit. The few hours afterwards is the most relaxed and alert I’ve ever been.


Doing it while tripping is taking it to a whole new level though :lol:


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: A.k.a] * 1
    #27793415 - 05/26/22 08:26 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

I’m a Wim Hof/Cold shower guy too. Sorry to continue the derail. I started with 30 seconds cold at the end of my showers and switched to 5 minute cold showers gradually. It is supposed to be good for building more and smaller mitochondria as well.


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    #27793441 - 05/26/22 08:55 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Wim Hof method is an amazing meditation and breathing technique. The dude is truly super human. It is almost like the opposite of being intoxicated. So much clarity. I’ve never incorporated it with tripping, but it can’t be bad. I usually o lay dose after a day of good work and cleaning the house. It’s like a ritual for me, so that I feel good and accomplished before I trip. I’m going to have to try the pre dawn dose though. It sounds like it could be amazing.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: MysticMycologist]
    #27793586 - 05/26/22 11:08 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

I should get into that Wim Hof thing. Cryo-treatments are getting big amongst athletes too. When you start warming up your blood vessels can expand 4× their usual size, allowing more blood flow and quicker healing/recovery time. Do you guys feel endorphins as you're freezing your ass off or afterwards? Also, one of my goals today is to streak some plates with nats.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Mr.Giggles] * 2
    #27793594 - 05/26/22 11:15 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

I find myself breathing shallow a lot and it’s crazy I have to remind myself to breath haha

As far as healing your body goes, fasting and clean eating is a better bet. this week i have only been eating between 5-8pm and been feeling great. Tennis elbow is feelin much better. The longer you fast the more junk your body can get rid of, they call it autophagy. It also increases HGH, tons of other benefits….

Back in topic, stoked on the nat trip reports, cant wait to try!!


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