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Has my Penis Envy spoilt?? Please take at look!
#27789227 - 05/23/22 09:12 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hey guys,
I've used a grow bag with Penis Envy & B+ mix, along with a heat mat and blue lights. As per guidance/instructions from the supplier, heat mat set to 26°C and once ready to fruit, lights set on 12 hour cycle.
I can't but wonder if perhaps they're 'overdone' and maybe left too long? I had to go to hospital and so they were left for a bit, but had put them in the fridge to halt the fruiting process. One thing was I initially (wrongly) positioned the grow lights surrounding the grow bag, but when the mushrooms grew they grew in all directions!
Can someone let me know if these are looking ok, as they don't look as neat as some pics of Penis Envy?!
Most importantly, will they be safe to consume?! Got them in a brown paper bag in the fridge currently and have a dehydrator on it's way.
If I've done something blatantly wrong here, some tips on my next attempt would also be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks in advance!
Edited by Cdxn85 (05/23/22 12:35 PM)
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Re: Has my Penis Envy spoilt?? Please take at look! [Re: Cdxn85]
#27789239 - 05/23/22 09:26 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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I recently bought a dehydrator, but when I first started I simply left the wet fruits on sushi mats. Took roughly 7 days to dry out and would flip them every other day or so.
I would not leave them in the fridge as they will rot & mold most likely. If they smell like fresh mushrooms, don't have odd colors & aren't mushy I'd assume they're good to consume. However... when in doubt, throw it out.
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Re: Has my Penis Envy spoilt?? Please take at look! [Re: Cdxn85]
#27789341 - 05/23/22 11:10 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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doesnt look like p.envy but definitely cubes. they look fine to me
 
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Re: Has my Penis Envy spoilt?? Please take at look! [Re: split_by_nine]
#27789393 - 05/23/22 11:58 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
split_by_nine said: doesnt look like p.envy but definitely cubes. they look fine to me
  
Hmmm so this is supposed to be a Penis Envy & B+ mix. They really don't look like Penis Envy, as they are wilted (but that could be down to my growing...?!).
Though also just found this other pic of my strain and these look a little more similar!

VS mine:
What do you mean by cube?
Grateful for other thoughts.
Like can these be toxic if gone wrong, do they look like they've got mould on or anything?
Edited by Cdxn85 (05/23/22 11:59 AM)
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Re: Has my Penis Envy spoilt?? Please take at look! [Re: Cdxn85]
#27789465 - 05/23/22 01:19 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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they look fine to me. "cubes" as in psilocybin cubensis.
if they have mold then they are not worth eating, but yours look fine to me. any odd smell to them?
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Re: Has my Penis Envy spoilt?? Please take at look! [Re: split_by_nine]
#27789540 - 05/23/22 02:21 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ah of course!
Well I've not actually ever smelt fresh shrooms before. They definitely have an scent of some kind, but hard to tell if bad or off...
They should be fine surely, as they've been in the grow bag right amount of time, temperature etc. Just wouldn't wanna consume something that may have undesirable effects...😂
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Re: Has my Penis Envy spoilt?? Please take at look! [Re: Cdxn85]
#27789631 - 05/23/22 04:25 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Even p.e. if left to overdevelop can grow some gnarly stipes and good sized caps. But I assume you mean this is tidal wave which does grow a bigger cap? But looks fine to me. They will be good for a short stint in the fridge.
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Re: Has my Penis Envy spoilt?? Please take at look! [Re: Pinstagram]
#27789987 - 05/23/22 09:08 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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+1 - They look great from here and I vote completely edible considering everything you said.
I'm going to say time is of the essence though... The longer they stay out without drying or just left in odd places, could affect it's quality. Don't worry about the smell if you are unfamiliar. These just look mangled because they just kept growing and you weren't able to witness them turn into this, so I understand the concern. Lol
But if I were there, and you showed me those - I'd eat them right now with you! Probably wouldn't wait for dehydrator, but you're maybe wanting to be able to measure your future doses?? IDK, depends on your mood, but I'm on my way!
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Re: Has my Penis Envy spoilt?? Please take at look! [Re: TheTimelessDon]
#27790158 - 05/24/22 02:07 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks guys! That's reassured me that they should be good, even if they do look a little funky - though this is my first time 😂
I've got them stored in a brown paper bag, with some silica gel in the bottom drawer of the fridge. Apparently they should be ok like this for a few days until my dehydrator arrives?
Thinking what I could do is perhaps put them in my dark boiler room (around 23-26°C at times) on cardboard with a small USB fan blowing on, to air dry them out and then perhaps finish them off in the dehydrator? Would this pre-dry help keep em safe until my dehydrator arrives? Or as the internet says they last 5 - 10 days in the fridge like this, and I'd be drying them out probs Thurs/Fri (they entered the fridge Monday), then they might be alright?
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Re: Has my Penis Envy spoilt?? Please take at look! [Re: Cdxn85]
#27790165 - 05/24/22 02:23 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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I wouldn't try to pre dry with air, that sort of slow drying is what degrades stuff, I'd just wait for the dehydrator, less than 5 days I think you'll be ok.
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Re: Has my Penis Envy spoilt?? Please take at look! [Re: Forrester]
#27790178 - 05/24/22 03:00 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ok that sounds like great advice, thank you!
From this first grow bag I got around 180g, which isn't too bad. Think I'll make up 18 x 1g dried portions. I've got some small vacuum sealer bags and will dose them up like that, stored nicely air removed.
Question - is this a good approach: grinding up the dried shrooms (therefore mixing all parts of the shroom) and portioning? I'm asking as unsure if any part of the shroom has more/less psilocybin than others? Figured if I just grind the lot of dried stuff up and portion, that should be fine, unless it really doesn't matter? Or is it better to not grind it all up and just cut bits off, maintaining the shroom structure (if that has impact at all...)?
Edited by Cdxn85 (05/24/22 03:58 AM)
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Re: Has my Penis Envy spoilt?? Please take at look! [Re: Cdxn85]
#27790310 - 05/24/22 06:46 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have 1KG grinded up in a quart jar with a moisture removal package thing tapped to the inside of the lid and have about 6 jars whole dried exactly the same way kept in the dark in my wardrobe I don’t seem to have any trouble with them
Weather this is rite or wrong about keeping the potency or good enough for long term storage who knows and I’m sure people will agree and disagree that’s life and people will always have there own opinions because what works for some one may not work for you
They are penis envy 6 I don’t trip that much but when I do It’s 20-25g so I couldn’t say if it’s good for potency or not Because the amount I do gives me a good trip 8 hours solid and have not done them fresh so again I couldn’t tell you the difference on potency
I have mutable projects on the go so I’m not that fussed about waste shoe box tek is the way my friend it’s easy and if it goes wrong then you havnt lost loads of jars
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Re: Has my Penis Envy spoilt?? Please take at look! [Re: Barry nye]
#27790330 - 05/24/22 07:11 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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If you want to store them for any length of time it's best not to grind them first, oxidation happens easier and a lot faster when ground.
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Re: Has my Penis Envy spoilt?? Please take at look! [Re: Forrester]
#27790426 - 05/24/22 08:42 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks mate, yeah I'll be grinding up when dried 👍
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Re: Has my Penis Envy spoilt?? Please take at look! [Re: Barry nye]
#27790458 - 05/24/22 09:10 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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25g dry, or wet?
Grinding the mushrooms exposed more surface area and accelerates decomposition of the actives. Best to store them while and dry, and grind before use if you want.
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Re: Has my Penis Envy spoilt?? Please take at look! [Re: MysticMycologist]
#27790471 - 05/24/22 09:25 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks, yeah currently stored fresh in the fridge and I'll then dry once my dehydrator arrives, grind them up then vacuum seal the 1g doses 👍
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Re: Has my Penis Envy spoilt?? Please take at look! [Re: Cdxn85]
#27790473 - 05/24/22 09:26 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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I’d recommend against storing them ground up.
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Re: Has my Penis Envy spoilt?? Please take at look! [Re: MysticMycologist]
#27790607 - 05/24/22 11:55 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Even then immediately putting them in vacuum sealed bags?
I'd be happy to just cut them up loosely and vacuum seal bag them after weighing my doses. I was under the impression that perhaps different parts of the shroom had different potency levels, so thought by grinding them all up that'd just mix it all all, avoiding dome more potent doses than others, is that not the case? So can one portion have a cap vs one having a stem, and both still be as potent as each other?
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Re: Has my Penis Envy spoilt?? Please take at look! [Re: Cdxn85]
#27790835 - 05/24/22 04:10 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah grind and mix is good for even potency, but not for storage.
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#27790886 - 05/24/22 05:01 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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The advice they gave you about grinding and mixing for even potency isn't necessarily because of caps and/or stems. Its genetics. With mss there are so many possible strains in each syringe. One mushroom can be meh, and the one right beside it may be very potent. All mushrooms of the same variety don't have the same potency. That's one of the reasons people clone and work towards an isolate.
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