|
Ankhseramun
Wanderer



Registered: 10/11/21
Posts: 589
Loc: Cantina, Mos Eisley, Tatooine
Last seen: 1 year, 7 months
|
|
Quote:
MysticMycologist said: These are the only Nats I have tried, but they are stronger than regular cubes. I’d like to compare them to PE potency, but the trip is so different that it doesn’t compare well. 2.5 grams dry each had us vibing for hours last night though. Stumbling around and laughing/crying. To me, it is a very body oriented trip with little confusion and light on the visuals. Waves of euphoria at times. While with PE the come up is always very uncomfortable and anxious for me.
I have cloned the three largest, greenest ones, and I’m looking forward to running more tubs.

That sounds too good to be true. I always have problems with the come-up, had some really nasty experiences in the last few weeks. Nats sound perfect, kinda like a good kush, good that I have jars colonizing right now. How's the taste, any difference to regular cubes?
Edited by Ankhseramun (05/19/22 10:54 AM)
|
MysticMycologist
Dirt Sherpa



Registered: 10/14/21
Posts: 1,755
Loc: seeking samadhi
|
|
Pretty much the same taste. The ones I grew dried down really small, so they are easy to eat. The kush thing is funny. We were just talking last night that Nats are like the indica of shrooms. Not a perfect analogy of course, but definitely more chill.
Olive green caps after drying. Color is more vibrant irl.

-------------------- Two eyes to look, One eye to see. Prying open my third eye 
Edited by MysticMycologist (05/19/22 09:22 PM)
|
TheBoJim
Strangest


Registered: 07/23/20
Posts: 449
Last seen: 10 months, 26 days
|
|
Had some good luck with my first grow from spore. Very strong visuals of just two grams. Very potent. Took a clone but its unbelievably slow on agar. Maybe I need to go back to spore.
|
san pedro guy
Captain



Registered: 10/22/17
Posts: 1,806
Last seen: 1 year, 3 months
|
Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: TheBoJim] 2
#27785037 - 05/19/22 10:50 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
|
|
some semi interesting discussion on nats and trips in the second half.
-------------------- Noob Grow Along 2022
|
karri0n
Mind Traveller



Registered: 08/29/20
Posts: 698
Last seen: 9 days, 21 hours
|
|
Just a pic of some natalensis LC
--------------------
Panaeolus Bisporus
|
chris77
Archaic Revivalist



Registered: 01/17/22
Posts: 1,930
Last seen: 1 hour, 1 minute
|
Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: karri0n]
#27785613 - 05/20/22 11:59 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
karri0n said: Just a pic of some natalensis LC

-------------------- the observer is the observed j. krishnamurti
|
Twistedzombie66
Stoner


Registered: 10/17/21
Posts: 406
Last seen: 2 months, 30 days
|
Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: chris77]
#27786753 - 05/21/22 10:54 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
|
|

I know its a little messed up but its fruiting!! 21 days in
|
Tweeq
Tweeq of Nature


Registered: 06/07/18
Posts: 2,047
Loc: Netherlands
Last seen: 10 hours, 33 minutes
|
|
Ready for grains a few days ago 
From the bottom:
|
karri0n
Mind Traveller



Registered: 08/29/20
Posts: 698
Last seen: 9 days, 21 hours
|
|
Quote:
Twistedzombie66 said:

I know its a little messed up but its fruiting!! 21 days in
A little messed up is pretty perfect for nats. you got fruits, I bet you'll get some more coming up through those clouds.
--------------------
Panaeolus Bisporus
|
Twistedzombie66
Stoner


Registered: 10/17/21
Posts: 406
Last seen: 2 months, 30 days
|
Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: karri0n]
#27786989 - 05/21/22 02:23 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Hell yea 🤘🤘 im excited!!
|
BlueAndOrange
Psychedelic success story…


Registered: 01/11/22
Posts: 1,076
Last seen: 1 day, 4 hours
|
|
I’m dying for my first Natalensis trip. Gotta get my spores to agar! Stupid job is getting in the way.
|
chris77
Archaic Revivalist



Registered: 01/17/22
Posts: 1,930
Last seen: 1 hour, 1 minute
|
|
t2, 3 days on brf agar, which part would you select for final transfer and why? regards, my fellow mushketeers
-------------------- the observer is the observed j. krishnamurti
|
A.k.a
Stranger



Registered: 10/27/19
Posts: 16,816
Loc: Gaming the system
Last seen: 1 day, 2 hours
|
Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: chris77] 1
#27788046 - 05/22/22 11:17 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
|
|
That all looks good, I would prob go for about 9. Decent speed slightly less rhizo.
Took forever but I’m almost ready to spawn the ape looking clone I took from that super isolated culture. It was barely moving on grain until two days ago it suddenly took off.

Hopefully it works out, I was thinking it was dirty the way it dragged initially.
--------------------
LAGM2020     
|
chris77
Archaic Revivalist



Registered: 01/17/22
Posts: 1,930
Last seen: 1 hour, 1 minute
|
Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: A.k.a]
#27788055 - 05/22/22 11:24 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
A.k.a said: That all looks good, I would prob go for about 9. Decent speed slightly less rhizo.
Took forever but I’m almost ready to spawn the ape looking clone I took from that super isolated culture. It was barely moving on grain until two days ago it suddenly took off.

Hopefully it works out, I was thinking it was dirty the way it dragged initially.
best of luck ! and thanks for your comment. 9 o'clock would have been my intuitive choice, but as i am new to all this its helpful to get some advice.
-------------------- the observer is the observed j. krishnamurti
|
Timestop413
Stranger



Registered: 06/17/20
Posts: 294
Last seen: 2 days, 14 hours
|
Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: chris77]
#27789186 - 05/23/22 08:19 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Does anyone know if Natalensis will fruit symbiotically with bacteria similar to Panaeolus Cyanescens? I'm unable to grow cubensis very well in my space but Pan Cyans do fine. I believe it to be due to the symbiotic nature that exists between bacteria and pans species because I am seeing bacterial blotch on my cubensis, along with slow fruiting times, lack luster flushes. I have a lot of soil/compost in my space as well which I believe to be the vector of some form of Pseudomonas or some sort of bacteria that negatively effects cubensis production. So I'm wondering if Natalensis would potentially work.
Edited by Timestop413 (05/23/22 08:24 AM)
|
karri0n
Mind Traveller



Registered: 08/29/20
Posts: 698
Last seen: 9 days, 21 hours
|
|
Quote:
Timestop413 said: Does anyone know if Natalensis will fruit symbiotically with bacteria similar to Panaeolus Cyanescens? I'm unable to grow cubensis very well in my space but Pan Cyans do fine. I believe it to be due to the symbiotic nature that exists between bacteria and pans species because I am seeing bacterial blotch on my cubensis, along with slow fruiting times, lack luster flushes. I have a lot of soil/compost in my space as well which I believe to be the vector of some form of Pseudomonas or some sort of bacteria that negatively effects cubensis production. So I'm wondering if Natalensis would potentially work.
We dont really know enough to answer this.
Natalensis seems to both react very strongly to contamination but also frequently "wins the fight" against contamination where people expect it not to.
That said, it's a pretty weird scenario to be able to do pans no prob but have cubes not working. It's probably something that can be fixed - i'd go over the basics from square one and figure out what I'm missing in your scenario.
--------------------
Panaeolus Bisporus
|
Twistedzombie66
Stoner


Registered: 10/17/21
Posts: 406
Last seen: 2 months, 30 days
|
Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: karri0n] 5
#27789537 - 05/23/22 02:21 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
|
|

So far so good..!! I think lol. Got fruits anyway!
|
Mycelium Juice
Here for the weed



Registered: 10/31/20
Posts: 505
Loc: planet earth
|
|
Huzza! That shit has to be wild to watch TwistedZombie. Congrats on those wild fuckers pulling through.
Here's some Nat pin progression I documented for the thread. In my estimation this would probably be considered a healthy tub 
Spawned 05/02. Below: first 4 is one pic a day between 05-14 to 05/17. Last 2 05/18.
   Harvest time 12 hrs later...

And some Nat T2 clones that went to grain last night, cuz they pretty and definitely Natty 
|
chris77
Archaic Revivalist



Registered: 01/17/22
Posts: 1,930
Last seen: 1 hour, 1 minute
|
|
nice work!!
-------------------- the observer is the observed j. krishnamurti
|
Timestop413
Stranger



Registered: 06/17/20
Posts: 294
Last seen: 2 days, 14 hours
|
Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: karri0n]
#27789779 - 05/23/22 06:18 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
karri0n said:
That said, it's a pretty weird scenario to be able to do pans no prob but have cubes not working. It's probably something that can be fixed - i'd go over the basics from square one and figure out what I'm missing in your scenario.
It definitely seems strange to have success with pans but not with cubes, however, I I feel my assumptions may be potentially true, hear me out. I grow cannabis indoors in what is called "living soil" so I basically have 4x8 raised beds inside filled with soil, worms, amended with compost, vermicompost, as well as constantly being inoculated with a variety of biological micro-organisms via watering. I reuse the soil again and again as it gets better and more diverse with biology over time. I make compost outside in my yard and vermicompost in a worm bin indoors.
It is known that Panaeolus Cyanescens fruits well covered in bacteria, symbiotically without issue and I am seeing very good success in my pans trays (Open air trays misted with a humidifier 30on/30off minute cycle). Psilocybe species will fruit with bacteria but certain bacteria like Pseudomonas Tolaasii is detrimental to its production. Tolaasii is said to be easily found in soils and composts and leads to blotch, which I am seeing repeatedly. I have done a lot of reading about Agaricus (white button mushroom) growing and this is where most of this info has come from.
For what it's worth, things were going very well for a while when I first moved in, and then over time I added more soil inside, a considerable amount more, heavily compost based soils, and I feel that is when I saw things start to fail.
I have run my own MS>agar isolations, as well as a handful of clones now from other people. Going from MEA, to rye grain quart jars and then spawning to pasteurized coco verm gypsum substrate in monotubs. I've put colonized grain back to agar and it grows out clean. If I case now, which I used to all the time with great success, things either do not fruit over a months time or very few mushrooms pop up, many of which are consumed by some sort of whiteish looking hyphae/mold or bacteria blotch. (I unfortunately in my disappointed states of mind I have not thought to take pictures of the contaminated fruits but I certainly will on future tubs to share). I for sure see blotch on the exterior and interior of many fruits, way slower fruiting times than normal, low yields and very poorly filled canopies. Non Penis Envy varieties are less susceptible for what its worth but still very slow.
I am not contaminating to trichoderma or anything really visible to the eye until fruits pop up and are attacked by something. The tubs looks normal, smells normal (maybe a bit earthy) but nothing funky or bad smelling. I've been working to figure this out for legitimately a year and a half now and I feel/fear, sadly..I may have to hang up the cubes or move (stop growing in living soil if I also want to grow mushrooms).
This is what has led me to look for other species that can tolerate bacteria, I don't know if I'm correct but this is what a lot of my research is leading me to think. I need to try and fruit tubs and make substrate at a friends house who has a much cleaner space than I to see if it makes a difference, I feel that it would.
|
|