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60 billion to the Ukraine clears the Senate. Joe will sign it.
    #27784617 - 05/19/22 04:59 PM (2 years, 1 hour ago)

Remember when Bill Clinton was President and balanced the budget and was shutting down the military industrial complex?  No fan of his AT ALL yet point being, has anyone seen a large portion of the United States and how decrepid it is?

Inflation, blah.  Yet people are starting to notice about gas and groceries.  Are Republicans the answer?  Naw.  The corruption levels are getting to a point that is interesting to watch unfold.

People used to take pride in being an honest taxpayer.  Those days are long gone.

It is embarrassing that I voted for him and really have given up on voting anymore.  I see a larger picture being played out step by step globally.




It was actually 40 billion approved but what do exact numbers matter?  As one in a U at one time thinking of journalism want to correct this.  Teaching I thought of as well but what is more dangerous then teaching and journalism when getting paid shit?  I picked neither.

Edited by Barnaby (05/28/22 03:16 AM)

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Re: 60 billion to the Ukraine clears the Senate. Joe will sign it. [Re: Barnaby]
    #27785513 - 05/20/22 10:47 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

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Remember when Bill Clinton was President and balanced the budget and was shutting down the military industrial complex?  No fan of his AT ALL yet point being, has anyone seen a large portion of the United States and how decrepid it is?

Inflation, blah.  Yet people are starting to notice about gas and groceries.  Are Republicans the answer?  Naw.  The corruption levels are getting to a point that is interesting to watch unfold.

People used to take pride in being an honest taxpayer.  Those days are long gone.

It is embarrassing that I voted for him and really have given up on voting anymore.  I see a larger picture being played out step by step globally.





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Re: 60 billion to the Ukraine clears the Senate. Joe will sign it. [Re: Mach z 800]
    #27785521 - 05/20/22 10:53 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

The books cant be balanced anymore because the table tilts more and more towards debt being unpayable.

The slippery slope gets steeper and steeper till it all at once goes to shite.


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Re: 60 billion to the Ukraine clears the Senate. Joe will sign it. [Re: Asante]
    #27785546 - 05/20/22 11:05 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

There's really no reason to balance the book when you can print money. Keeping the dollar in foreign hands is actually a long term strategy.


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Re: 60 billion to the Ukraine clears the Senate. Joe will sign it. [Re: christopera]
    #27786068 - 05/20/22 06:08 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

The dollar is not in foreign hands.  Nor is it in Americans hands.  The Federal Reserve is global and the Dollar is the currant state of what most everything is based under but it is in no way of a single country unless you count every single one of them being under it.  And it does matter having a non-stop printing of it.  Inflation, lol.  Still every country is under it globally.

Is interesting how the globalists play with it though through the years to me.  They take advantage of the dollar as the United States has the highest GNP and military of course in the world.  Not a good thing.

Yet, glad I am not in debt.  For those with kids and endless payments for rent, mortgage, utilities, student loans, auto, insurance and also trying to support a family with inflation the way it is going no matter how much the Fed, a global not U.S. entity raises the interest rates to stem it, they know what they are doing.

There is a larger plan and club and you and I are not in it.  Like the late George Carling said.  God, just glad for the now the Ministry of Truth is done with.

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Re: 60 billion to the Ukraine clears the Senate. Joe will sign it. [Re: Barnaby]
    #27786165 - 05/20/22 08:15 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

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has anyone seen a large portion of the United States and how decrepid it is



I've seen a large portion of the US, and it's pretty nice overall.

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Re: 60 billion to the Ukraine clears the Senate. Joe will sign it. [Re: Barnaby]
    #27786173 - 05/20/22 08:28 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Yes, it is wonderful and so nice overall.:shrug:  Looks like it did in the 50's actually.


On a different note.  China is going to shit.  USA!  Our GNP has surpassed it and now just trying to keep up with the space race during Reagan years and mean just NOW!  The gas prices.  Made me laugh coming back from California where it is basically 7 dollars and hearing a guy on the radio, IT IS 4.50! 

I suppose everything is perspective.  And my unasked for advice is.

Don't have debt.

Don't have kids.  Believe me the earth is replenished since Adam and Eve so with that religion I guest every is a brother and sister an incest is a problem with the human race.  God, why?  The snake was so wily and smart, cunning. 


Problem solved.  For those that do you are fucked.

Not finding a lot of people in this world in life or on media that are all that optimistic about the future.  Time will tell just seeing all the shit fall into place.  And yes the four horseman of the apocolypse with pestilence and COVID and its large offshoots and now, MONKEY POX!, famine, death, war that is endless the red horse with the sword of people endlessly killing people in war and then in civil wars blah de blah. Isn't it interesting times?  Is easy for me having gone through so much shit in my life and I survive but the majority of this world, best of luck.

I like the story but not a firm believer in it.  A lot of people say as throughout time this is the end!  God the black plague killed off how many?  Yet people went on.  Besides the flood spoken of.  You had to build a ship from scratch guided by God with no skills and bring every animal onto it but they left behind the unicorns and brought the mosquitoes.  Why Noah why? 

Point being one can't live in a whale either but this world is heading in a really bad direction.  Am glad I am in the position I am in and all I have on my conscience is my one solitary fish.  Life is sacred, religion is bullshit. 

Politicians are so outdated and are of the very bottom rung of society and what is to come.  Get it down to 500,000, right.  They will do it through viruses.  Well, takes away the blame game from countries to each other and the people they "represent". 

WE HAVE NUKES!  Why do people think is why Russia doesn't give a shit about the Ukraine or China with Taiwan?  On with it.  People won't interfere.

And the first seal was broken.  Done.  And the second seal was broken. Done.  Blah.  I finally get when Elon Musk posted the Earth turning into a dead planet and showed a sliding scale of it looking like Mars his facisnation with it and colonizing it.

But let us focus on politics as they try to maintain the fakeness of it and they are bought for pennies on the dollar.

I really don't care.  When sees the larger works and those with real power at play, they mean little to nothing.  Musk is an ally, Walmart brothers and Amazon guy and Facebook guy, nah.

Those are the true politicians.  On to the news!


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Re: 60 billion to the Ukraine clears the Senate. Joe will sign it. [Re: Barnaby]
    #27786583 - 05/21/22 07:18 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Barnaby said:
The dollar is not in foreign hands.  Nor is it in Americans hands.  The Federal Reserve is global and the Dollar is the currant state of what most everything is based under but it is in no way of a single country unless you count every single one of them being under it.  And it does matter having a non-stop printing of it.  Inflation, lol.  Still every country is under it globally.

Is interesting how the globalists play with it though through the years to me.  They take advantage of the dollar as the United States has the highest GNP and military of course in the world.  Not a good thing.

Yet, glad I am not in debt.  For those with kids and endless payments for rent, mortgage, utilities, student loans, auto, insurance and also trying to support a family with inflation the way it is going no matter how much the Fed, a global not U.S. entity raises the interest rates to stem it, they know what they are doing.

There is a larger plan and club and you and I are not in it.  Like the late George Carling said.  God, just glad for the now the Ministry of Truth is done with.




Printing more money devalues it, thus it makes it easier for foreign people to participate in the US. The more Dollars outside the US, the more the US has control over their economies. Imagine cranking out Dollars for 50 years then stopping the supply, pumping the price artificially, then paying off all your debts. Individuals should be so lucky.

65 nations use the dollar as the reserve currency. 11 foreign nations use the Dollar as their actual currency. Think about that. How many nations use the renminbi?

I'm in debt up to my eyeballs, but feeling okay about it. I am nearing a net positive value even with that debt. It could be better, but for somebody in my 30's that owns a home and has college debt I am doing just fine. Better than average probably.


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Re: 60 billion to the Ukraine clears the Senate. Joe will sign it. [Re: christopera] * 1
    #27786600 - 05/21/22 07:50 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Imagine what $40billion could do domestically!?!?!?!


We could feed people, put money into restoration and fire prevention.  We could harden homes and make them more energy efficient.

Fix roads and other infrastructure.




It's fucking insane.

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Re: 60 billion to the Ukraine clears the Senate. Joe will sign it. [Re: Tulipslave]
    #27786616 - 05/21/22 08:20 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

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Imagine what $40billion could do domestically!?!?!?!


We could feed people, put money into restoration and fire prevention.  We could harden homes and make them more energy efficient.

Fix roads and other infrastructure.




It's fucking insane.






Taking care of the people is socialist. That's not freedom.
Freedom means to be totally free of compassion, sympathy and the urge to have what you do make good sense.


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Re: 60 billion to the Ukraine clears the Senate. Joe will sign it. [Re: Asante] * 1
    #27786639 - 05/21/22 08:49 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

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Imagine what $40billion could do domestically!?!?!?!


We could feed people, put money into restoration and fire prevention.  We could harden homes and make them more energy efficient.

Fix roads and other infrastructure.




It's fucking insane.






Taking care of the people is socialist. That's not freedom.
Freedom means to be totally free of compassion, sympathy and the urge to have what you do make good sense.






I must be a big 'ole socialist, then!

Or as the rednecks around here say, "socialist commies."



I'm actually not in favor of "handouts" under normal operating conditions, but we are SOOOOOOOOO FAR away from that. Most governments and industries are actively destroying the environment, which eliminates the means for a person or group of people to actually TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES by and for themselves.


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Re: 60 billion to the Ukraine clears the Senate. Joe will sign it. [Re: Tulipslave]
    #27786674 - 05/21/22 09:33 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

I was being ironic, for some, even the basic tenants of being social at all reek of socialism.


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Re: 60 billion to the Ukraine clears the Senate. Joe will sign it. [Re: Asante] * 1
    #27786803 - 05/21/22 11:49 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

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Quote:

Tulipslave said:
Imagine what $40billion could do domestically!?!?!?!


We could feed people, put money into restoration and fire prevention.  We could harden homes and make them more energy efficient.

Fix roads and other infrastructure.




It's fucking insane.






Taking care of the people is socialist. That's not freedom.
Freedom means to be totally free of compassion, sympathy and the urge to have what you do make good sense.




Taking care of your own people is socialist.

Taking care of people on the other side of the planet, now that’s governmenting!


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Re: 60 billion to the Ukraine clears the Senate. Joe will sign it. [Re: Barnaby]
    #27786941 - 05/21/22 01:57 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

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Remember when Bill Clinton was President and balanced the budget and was shutting down the military industrial complex?




That’s news to me. Must’ve missed that.

I would conjecture that any decrease in military spending occurring during the Clinton years was due to the tech boom. The worse the economy gets, the more weapons we’re going to manufacture. After all, we’re the world’s foremost arms dealer.

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Re: 60 billion to the Ukraine clears the Senate. Joe will sign it. [Re: Tulipslave] * 1
    #27787156 - 05/21/22 04:53 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

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Imagine what $40billion could do domestically!?!?!?!


We could feed people, put money into restoration and fire prevention.  We could harden homes and make them more energy efficient.

Fix roads and other infrastructure.




It's fucking insane.




True. The war machine is dumb.

It is estimated that $25B would end hunger in the USA.


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Re: 60 billion to the Ukraine clears the Senate. Joe will sign it. [Re: christopera]
    #27787297 - 05/21/22 06:47 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

A clown during the pandemic and now this.
This can't be what the American people voted for.

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    #27787321 - 05/21/22 07:18 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

What the American people want and the choices they’re given to vote for are rarely the same thing.


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Re: 60 billion to the Ukraine clears the Senate. Joe will sign it. [Re: christopera]
    #27787690 - 05/22/22 01:20 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Good for you seriously.  And great post.  You will be fine in the near future at least as I don't see inflation going all that much higher because people in the U.S. are starting to get restless for a large part. 

The feeling of having control of your finances and being as debt free as possible, and I get home loans are a whole different thing, plus car loans with the gas prices unless it is a reliable car and worth one's time and money.

That is it.  Everything else is excess and those that do so are paying the price and will continue to do so is my best educated guess.  At least you are on top of things.  Many don't have the intelligence or do the research to live within one's means. 

Whatever, not my problem.

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Re: 60 billion to the Ukraine clears the Senate. Joe will sign it. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #27787805 - 05/22/22 06:23 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

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Tulipslave said:
Imagine what $40billion could do domestically!?!?!?!


We could feed people, put money into restoration and fire prevention.  We could harden homes and make them more energy efficient.

Fix roads and other infrastructure.




It's fucking insane.






Taking care of the people is socialist. That's not freedom.
Freedom means to be totally free of compassion, sympathy and the urge to have what you do make good sense.




Taking care of your own people is socialist.

Taking care of people on the other side of the planet, now that’s governmenting!





The US has mostly been dropping US made bombs out of US made planes to "take care" of people who wanted to get out of the dollar as a world reserve currency.


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Re: 60 billion to the Ukraine clears the Senate. Joe will sign it. [Re: Asante]
    #27788542 - 05/22/22 05:57 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

No "taking care of" shaming!!!

One person's taking care of is just as good as the next person's.

Whether it's with bombs/violence, or giving away monies, or any other way like orchestrated coups!

Don't judge the USA and it's taking care of things"
That's hampering freedom!!
All taking care of made equal.

Cept taking care of Actual citizens of America fux thems lmao


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