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I simply HAVE to tell you guys this
    #2777364 - 06/09/04 08:53 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Okay, this morning, I talked to my mom on the phone. We chatted casually for a few moments, and she asked me what major I was considering for college. I got all excited and said, "I really think I'm going to go for Philosophy."

Guess what she says?

"Michelle, you're a Christian! You shouldn't do Philosophy!"

My jaw dropped. Not only because my mother thinks she knows everything about my spirituality (she doesn't) but because I was increduluous at what she said.

I responded with, "Mom! What does that have to do with anything?"

She says, "Michelle, don't do Philosophy. You have your Christian faith to guide you."

I, still shocked, stupidly said: "Mom, it would be a great opportunity for me! I'd broaden my horizens about ethics and morals and the nature of--"

"Michelle!" she cuts me off. "You have your BIBLE for morals! There's no need for discussion about Gods word! It's TRUTH! Besides, your faith has been a bit shaky lately. I think Philosophy would be bad for you."

At this point, I only wanted to laugh, because my mother doesn't know ANYTHING about where my "faith" stands. So holding back my laughter I just say, "But mom!"

She says firmly, "I think I'm going to put my foot down on this Michelle. Take English instead. No Philosophy. Who knows what those liberal professors would put in your head?"

At this point, I let the discussion die by saying, "Well, we'll see what happens..."

So anyway, I just had to share this with you because I am still in a state of shock and amusement at the depth of my mothers ignorance. She doesn't understand the state of my faith right now, and if I told her I know I would be met with nothing but grief. I am the happiest I have ever been in my entire life! I've confronted fears, destructive habits, negativity...my parents CONSTANTLY comment on how mature I seem now, how happy I seem to them, how proud they are of me. They always ask me why I am so happy and I just smile and say that I've been reborn from within. Who knows what they take that as.

The sad thing is that if I told my parents why I am so happy and overjoyed to be alive, they'd go nuts.

The truth is, I've never been more content and secure in my spiritual path, and in my life. It's just a shame that my parents wouldn't and can't accept that path.

*me*

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Re: I simply HAVE to tell you guys this [Re: MOTH]
    #2777373 - 06/09/04 08:56 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

:rotfl: ....that is so funny!


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    #2777431 - 06/09/04 09:18 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)


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    #2777438 - 06/09/04 09:23 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

yeah, making your mom happy now will only serve to make you miserable for the rest of your life.

if she can't support you furthering your education because of her religious beliefs then you would do well to do exactly what YOU want to do and tell her to shove it if she doesn't like it. this isn't about faith and convictions, this is about your career, your future, and most importantly, YOUR happiness.

what the hell do you plan to do with that degree anyways? psych majors almost always end up working in bookstores and coffeeshops.

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Re: I simply HAVE to tell you guys this [Re: MOTH]
    #2777445 - 06/09/04 09:24 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Pretty sad your parents don't support your choice. It makes me sad how close minded some people are and how much THE BIBLE is involved(not a personal attack against your parents). Why can't they support you if you want it and you think it makes you happy? :frown:

Do what YOU want! Respect your parents, but live your own life!

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Re: I simply HAVE to tell you guys this [Re: Annom]
    #2777463 - 06/09/04 09:29 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks everyone...

I'm not worried about her aversions to me majoring in Philosophy.  She's more concerned at this point about me actually FINISHING college and getting a degree then caring about what it's in. 

I love my parents so much.  Occasionally it bothers me that they can't accept whatever path in life I choose, but lately I've been feeling more at peace about it.  I'm not bitter or miserable in withholding the "truth" about my spirituality from them like I used to be...I feel like I'm doing them a favor and right now I feel okay with that.  *I* know that I'm on the right path, and how I feel inside, and that's all that matters right now.  :smile:

The thing is...I thought her reaction was pricelessly comical, so I had to share with you guys, hehe.  :heart:


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Re: I simply HAVE to tell you guys this [Re: MOTH]
    #2777488 - 06/09/04 09:35 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

RUN AWAY fast........

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Re: I simply HAVE to tell you guys this [Re: MOTH]
    #2777489 - 06/09/04 09:36 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

:grin: Nice you see it as pricelessly comical :smile:

It indeed is very funny, but in some situations it can be very shitty if your parents react like that.

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Re: I simply HAVE to tell you guys this [Re: Annom]
    #2777502 - 06/09/04 09:39 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Annom said:
:grin: Nice you see it as pricelessly comical :smile:

It indeed is very funny, but in some situations it can be very shitty if your parents react like that.




haha, maybe I'm just used to it!  Don't know if that's good or bad...  :tongue:

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Re: I simply HAVE to tell you guys this [Re: MOTH]
    #2777504 - 06/09/04 09:39 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

philosophy is evil?%
:satan: :satan: :satan: :satan:


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Re: I simply HAVE to tell you guys this [Re: shamantra]
    #2777652 - 06/09/04 10:36 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

If I was (a) god, I would be disappointed in any of my creations who didn't question everything and think for themselves. Blind faith would be a big let down, I'd have to turn my ez-bake universe up to "incinerate" and start over. But that's me.


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Re: I simply HAVE to tell you guys this [Re: MOTH]
    #2777659 - 06/09/04 10:38 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Wow....weird....just tell her your taking English, she'll never know the difference.


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Re: I simply HAVE to tell you guys this [Re: Ripple]
    #2777679 - 06/09/04 10:48 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

tell here where she can put that english textbook...















































































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Re: I simply HAVE to tell you guys this [Re: Ripple]
    #2777843 - 06/09/04 12:04 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

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Wow....weird....just tell her your taking English, she'll never know the difference.




i'm disappointed in you ripple. that is bad advice. lying is no solution. standing up for what you believe in and following your dreams regardless of whom your detractors may be is.

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Re: I simply HAVE to tell you guys this [Re: MOTH]
    #2777918 - 06/09/04 12:49 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

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EllemyshShade said:
There's no need for discussion about Gods word! It's TRUTH!




Yikes! That right there is what scares me so much about (most) Christians. Discussion or critical thinking about God's word is strictly forbidden, probably 'cause they'd realize how hypocritical they are.


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Re: I simply HAVE to tell you guys this [Re: Renegade8]
    #2777939 - 06/09/04 12:57 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Discussion or critical thinking about God's word is strictly forbidden, probably 'cause they'd realize how hypocritical they are.

Discussion about God isn't possible. The only arguments are feelings(I just feel God is there for me etc). I respect these feelings but they can't be discussed. Discussions should be rational, a rational discussion with Christians isn't possible. I tell them what I think and give good arguments, but it's just a monologue.

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Re: I simply HAVE to tell you guys this [Re: MOTH]
    #2777985 - 06/09/04 01:12 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

what does philosophy pay anyway?

I'd take something you could use.


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Re: I simply HAVE to tell you guys this [Re: MOTH]
    #2778009 - 06/09/04 01:23 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Philosophy would by fun, christian or not.


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Re: I simply HAVE to tell you guys this [Re: MOTH]
    #2778045 - 06/09/04 01:40 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

sorry to hear about this temporary set-back. but this is another reason why i feel religion is the greatest evil in history, because it promotes ignorance and doesn't allow people think outside the box. who is to say christianity is the correct worldview? nobody, so don't force that stuff on me.

i mean, who says you have to be a christian to live a good, morally sound life? maybe you could tell your mom that studying philosophy is a way to better understand the morals and rules set forth in the bible?


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Re: I simply HAVE to tell you guys this [Re: TheDude]
    #2778488 - 06/09/04 04:17 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

tell her ur oing into "christian philosphy"
just make somthing up
hell tell her ur going into "christian quantum phisics" if u have to


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