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Re: First signs of life. [Re: dyel]
    #27777082 - 05/14/22 03:58 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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sorry for the vague question, i was referring to the pre-sterilizated grain bags
I bet someone is making big bucks these days





Oh most definitely. If they are properly done, not so bad. But hard to trust anybody. I got two different bags, one was 20 bucks and the other was close to 30. The one for 30 has horse manure based substrate, with rye grains and a layer of straw. It's nearly 4 pounds and if it was properly sterilized, it should have some pretty good flushes.

But like was already mentioned here: Investing in your own stuff is the way to go. You can get some good quality bags for cheap to start out, but the more I read, fruiting chambers or Monotubs is where the big flushes come from.


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Re: First signs of life. [Re: hazyhorse]
    #27777086 - 05/14/22 04:02 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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lmao yeah i feel ya, there’s definitely a learning curve with a lot of stuff in this hobby & a lot of it is weird stuff you don’t really see mentioned. learning first hand is the best experience

i think the brand i use is pennington? but anything that doesn’t have corn in it should be fine. mostly milo & millet is best




Thats for sure. No one tells that a space heater can stay on when it's set to turn off. I went out for a few hours. While I was gone there was a big temp drop. I knew my space would kick on so didn't worry. However, when I walked into the room, it was nearly 97 degrees:shocked:. I may have killed my mycelium. So far, it doesn't looked harmed, but I'll know in a few days. I found myself apologizing to my hopefully future mushbabies.

And thanks for the advice with WBS. The bag I have does corn in it, but the others don't and they're not that expensive.


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Re: First signs of life. [Re: Badaboom84]
    #27777099 - 05/14/22 04:20 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

cubes are pretty resilient, as long as it didn’t dry out too much on the surface they should bounce back. that’s the thing that sucks with heaters/fans etc. they theoretically work fine but in practice you run into shit like that.

of course! i think corn is fine from a sterilization stand point, i think the reason you don’t want it in your WBS mix is because it’s hella starchy & will make a sticky mess in your jars. but if it floats you can just skim it off the top when you do your rinses before the boil


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Re: First signs of life. [Re: Badaboom84]
    #27777100 - 05/14/22 04:24 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

You may get lucky with spiked temps for a short period of time.. when I first started out I had some reptile heat pads and Bluetooth thermometers... when I got home one day I realized that I screwed something up and the temp spiked for almost 24 hours.. I got lucky and everything turned out alright...

As long as you didn't keep it at a high temp for a long period of time, and your mycelium didn't dry up, you'll probably be fine. :thumbup:
Contams just tend to flourish at higher temperatures, so there is a higher chance that you allowed some contamination to pop up.. hopefully you'll be in the clear.

:goodluck:

Edit: looks like hazyhorse beat me to it... but that took forever to type, so I'm posting it anyway :lol:

Edited by Rotnpins (05/14/22 04:25 PM)

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Re: First signs of life. [Re: hazyhorse]
    #27780137 - 05/16/22 11:39 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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hazyhorse said:
cubes are pretty resilient, as long as it didn’t dry out too much on the surface they should bounce back. that’s the thing that sucks with heaters/fans etc. they theoretically work fine but in practice you run into shit like that.

of course! i think corn is fine from a sterilization stand point, i think the reason you don’t want it in your WBS mix is because it’s hella starchy & will make a sticky mess in your jars. but if it floats you can just skim it off the top when you do your rinses before the boil




Thats true. I looked up on it that day and found different temps given. Like between how high of temps. 102 - 120 was given as a temp that kills mycelium. So far, things are looking good though. Still have my grow bag going in hopes it turns out ok. But I have come to accept it if it does come out to be a loss.

My agar dish however, is looking very good. Been a week and it has some growth in spots for now with no signs, as I can tell that is, of contam. I do have some rye grain, but it is expensive. I found the WBS without corn and it's about 10 bucks for a good sized bag. Even cheaper on Amazon. Going to try it out.


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Re: First signs of life. [Re: Rotnpins]
    #27780147 - 05/16/22 11:44 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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Rotnpins said:
You may get lucky with spiked temps for a short period of time.. when I first started out I had some reptile heat pads and Bluetooth thermometers... when I got home one day I realized that I screwed something up and the temp spiked for almost 24 hours.. I got lucky and everything turned out alright...

As long as you didn't keep it at a high temp for a long period of time, and your mycelium didn't dry up, you'll probably be fine. :thumbup:
Contams just tend to flourish at higher temperatures, so there is a higher chance that you allowed some contamination to pop up.. hopefully you'll be in the clear.

:goodluck:

Edit: looks like hazyhorse beat me to it... but that took forever to type, so I'm posting it anyway :lol:




Not really sure, but the high temp was around an hour or so. It hailed that day and was a big drop in temp and it confused my space heater. Didn't take long to cool the room back down to 79. So far things look ok. I felt like a failing parent :grin:. I said "Oh no. I killed my mushbabies".

hazyhorse has given some good advice, but your reply confirms what was said. I like that because the same info comes from different sources, confirming the info. So with that, I thank you for your reply.


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