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RedNeckBow
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My Friend's Dad has Alzheimer's/Dementia. She ask me to help him with mushrooms.
#27772484 - 05/11/22 10:30 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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hello family.
*i know this is not the sub for this. But desperate times make exceptions. Mods feel free to delete this is you dim necessary*
original post : https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27772474
Yesterday i went to visit a friend of mine. And she told me her dad is suffering tremendously with a advance Alzheimer's and Dementia.
She is miserable because of this, and even told me, with shame in her heart. She just want her dad to spend his last days with tranquility or simply have a peaceful death.
She is taking care of him. And ask to give her mushrooms so she can give her dad microdose along with lions mane and maybe vitamin b3(stamets stack)
According to her, they already tried everything conventional. And the doctor prognosis is bleak so say the least...
No one has ever gone to jail here because of mushrooms. Ayahuasca circle are promoted openly and the government does not interfere.
Have anyone here tried treating this disease with psilocybin?
I don't usually share my mushies with anyone. But this case breaks my heart and she is even on alprazolam to deal with the panic attacks she is being getting. I just found out this yesterday.
Opinions? warnings? protocols? experiences? thanks is adavance.
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Re: My Friend's Dad has Alzheimer's/Dementia. She ask me to help him with mushrooms. [Re: RedNeckBow]
#27772496 - 05/11/22 10:45 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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My grandfather died from this disease and it's heartbreaking. I'm very sorry to hear what's happening with your friend's dad. In my honest opinion if it's late/end stage then nothing is going to help make it better. I have no idea what giving him mushrooms would be like but in my opinion I probably wouldn't do it. I definitely wouldn't give enough to make him trip. It's one thing for someone in the right mind to want to trip before death but it's totally different to give it to someone who can't make that decision for themselves. I can't tell you what to do and honestly I don't know what to do. Maybe mushrooms would help him find peace or maybe it would make him even more terrified in his last days. We can't know. If they really don't treat people using psychedelics as criminals then maybe it's worth a shot if that's what his guardian wants to do however I'd advise her just to comfort him and be by his side as much as possible. I know how confusing and scary it is for them and I absolutely hated to see my grandpa in his last week's but they need their families by their side. I hope all of you find some sort of comfort by the end of this.
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Re: My Friend's Dad has Alzheimer's/Dementia. She ask me to help him with mushrooms. [Re: ShinyWartortle]
#27772519 - 05/11/22 10:57 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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There might be nothing to much do as this point.
Yet she can't stand to be around him for long because of his erratic and inapropiate behavior.
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Re: My Friend's Dad has Alzheimer's/Dementia. She ask me to help him with mushrooms. [Re: RedNeckBow]
#27772525 - 05/11/22 11:05 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Unfortunately there's not much that fungi can do to help. You especially don't want to be giving someone with dementia freakin mushrooms. I'm not sure if you've ever even ate them. If you have? Then you know that's not the thing to be giving him. What he needs is family. Not something you probably couldn't handle. It's most definitely not relaxing. So I'm lost as far as I can think with mushrooms and dementia. All I know is that's the wrong drug. As a matter of fact, any drug would be wrong. He needs family. I've been there? Done that. And no matter how messed up my head is when it happens, a seriously uncomfortable drug is the wrong thing.
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Re: My Friend's Dad has Alzheimer's/Dementia. She ask me to help him with mushrooms. [Re: RedNeckBow]
#27772550 - 05/11/22 11:22 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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My grandpa has dementia and my dad asked me about having him micro-dose, but we decided against it for a lot of the reasons listed above.. his dementia is too late stage for anything like that to help, plus I didn't want to do anything that could put him in an even worse state of mind... we ended up having his doctor put him on some medications to try and stabilize his mood and keep him calmer,. It hasn't helped with his memory or anything, but the overall situation has gotten a little bit more manageable..
I feel for your friend.. it's a horrible thing to go through.. best wishes for everyone involved.
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Re: My Friend's Dad has Alzheimer's/Dementia. She ask me to help him with mushrooms. [Re: MTZ]
#27772551 - 05/11/22 11:23 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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MTZ said: Unfortunately there's not much that fungi can do to help. You especially don't want to be giving someone with dementia freakin mushrooms. I'm not sure if you've ever even ate them. If you have? Then you know that's not the thing to be giving him. What he needs is family. Not something you probably couldn't handle. It's most definitely not relaxing. So I'm lost as far as I can think with mushrooms and dementia. All I know is that's the wrong drug. As a matter of fact, any drug would be wrong. He needs family. I've been there? Done that. And no matter how messed up my head is when it happens, a seriously uncomfortable drug is the wrong thing.
I've taken up to 25 dry gram myself in a single trip. So your point is taken.
But. After some intense experience s I've defenetly notice this slowdown of my hiperactive tendencois and a quittening of my ever running mind.
More so afterwards than during the trip itself. I figure that might be helpful.
I don't know. And yes. He needs family and love. I've plan on metting him and doing my own litle diagnosis.
He and her doughter comes from a family of doctors. And I come from a line of seers and oracles.
Maybe we can find common ground.
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Re: My Friend's Dad has Alzheimer's/Dementia. She ask me to help him with mushrooms. [Re: RedNeckBow]
#27772568 - 05/11/22 11:44 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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I’m sorry, where generally are you from that your line is seers and oracles? On that note watched Alzheimer’s/dementia destroy my grandmother every day for years as a young child. As an adult now please don’t do anything that could alter their mental processes even more. I’m sure their children are looking for any help but the only thing that’ll help is medication prescribed by doctors to help sedate their actions. It’s a terrible thing for the individual to go through and a horrible one for the care takers. Wish you the best in your decisions.
Edited by Screwup (05/11/22 11:45 AM)
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Re: My Friend's Dad has Alzheimer's/Dementia. She ask me to help him with mushrooms. [Re: Screwup]
#27772629 - 05/11/22 12:51 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah, Psychedelics are not what you want to be giving to people with mental health issues such as that. It also breaks my heart that you dont find it necessary to share your fungus with friends and family. Thats what it's about... isn't it?! Correct me if i'm wrong. That Being said, my mom died of liver cancer 11 months ago. She was never open to or understood why i've been such a proponent for psychedelics and especially mushrooms. However in her last months, she decided it was something that she wanted to experience. December 23, 2020 she ate some PEs with us, and it was PROFOUND. She found a peace about everything that I cant even describe. I really can't even understand it. She lived her last months with a positivity that was paramount. Such a beautiful thing in such a sad situation! Anyways, I'm sending good vibes to you and your friends. Surround them with LOVE!
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Re: My Friend's Dad has Alzheimer's/Dementia. She ask me to help him with mushrooms. [Re: GarryJarcia]
#27772643 - 05/11/22 01:03 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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I can understand trying lions mane or something in early stages for some neurological benefits, but actives are not likely going to help in this situation.
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Re: My Friend's Dad has Alzheimer's/Dementia. She ask me to help him with mushrooms. [Re: Screwup]
#27772796 - 05/11/22 03:30 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Screwup said: I’m sorry, where generally are you from that your line is seers and oracles? On that note watched Alzheimer’s/dementia destroy my grandmother every day for years as a young child. As an adult now please don’t do anything that could alter their mental processes even more. I’m sure their children are looking for any help but the only thing that’ll help is medication prescribed by doctors to help sedate their actions. It’s a terrible thing for the individual to go through and a horrible one for the care takers. Wish you the best in your decisions.
I'm from a obscure South American country. We are part of the West, yet there is plenty of unconventional religious practices.
My great grandfather was a 33 degree Mason.
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Re: My Friend's Dad has Alzheimer's/Dementia. She ask me to help him with mushrooms. [Re: Rotnpins]
#27772797 - 05/11/22 03:31 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Rotnpins said: My grandpa has dementia and my dad asked me about having him micro-dose, but we decided against it for a lot of the reasons listed above.. his dementia is too late stage for anything like that to help, plus I didn't want to do anything that could put him in an even worse state of mind... we ended up having his doctor put him on some medications to try and stabilize his mood and keep him calmer,. It hasn't helped with his memory or anything, but the overall situation has gotten a little bit more manageable..
I feel for your friend.. it's a horrible thing to go through.. best wishes for everyone involved.
I reckon standard tranquilizer s have been tried and failed Misserably.
This is her say of course
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Re: My Friend's Dad has Alzheimer's/Dementia. She ask me to help him with mushrooms. [Re: GarryJarcia]
#27772801 - 05/11/22 03:33 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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GarryJarcia said: Yeah, Psychedelics are not what you want to be giving to people with mental health issues such as that. It also breaks my heart that you dont find it necessary to share your fungus with friends and family. Thats what it's about... isn't it?! Correct me if i'm wrong. That Being said, my mom died of liver cancer 11 months ago. She was never open to or understood why i've been such a proponent for psychedelics and especially mushrooms. However in her last months, she decided it was something that she wanted to experience. December 23, 2020 she ate some PEs with us, and it was PROFOUND. She found a peace about everything that I cant even describe. I really can't even understand it. She lived her last months with a positivity that was paramount. Such a beautiful thing in such a sad situation! Anyways, I'm sending good vibes to you and your friends. Surround them with LOVE!
I'm glad you Mon got to be at peace in her finall days. Tha is exactly what my friend want for her dad
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Re: My Friend's Dad has Alzheimer's/Dementia. She ask me to help him with mushrooms. [Re: Seamonkey84]
#27772803 - 05/11/22 03:34 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Seamonkey84 said: I can understand trying lions mane or something in early stages for some neurological benefits, but actives are not likely going to help in this situation.
This seem to be the consesus. I'll explained that the supposed cure. Might be worst than the problem
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Re: My Friend's Dad has Alzheimer's/Dementia. She ask me to help him with mushrooms. [Re: RedNeckBow]
#27772805 - 05/11/22 03:34 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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*hug* my uncle died from that, hope you do do better I hear lions mane help but don't expect miracles
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Re: My Friend's Dad has Alzheimer's/Dementia. She ask me to help him with mushrooms. [Re: dyel]
#27772815 - 05/11/22 03:45 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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dyel said: *hug* my uncle died from that, hope you do do better I hear lions mane help but don't expect miracles
I haven't meet the man myself. So I haven't give her anything.
She does say he has this moments of lucidity. He seems to understand.
She even tried giving him ayahuasca(with his consent) with a couple times. And apparently he is not worst for it. Her say this is.
Consensus here states. Not a good idea going the mushroom rout. And i'll stick with that for now.
Yet im up to meet the man myself and taking my final decision them.
Thank you all
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Re: My Friend's Dad has Alzheimer's/Dementia. She ask me to help him with mushrooms. [Re: RedNeckBow]
#27772829 - 05/11/22 03:59 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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man it can suck, my uncle could not remember his own children but one time I walked in he was like welcome the groom (he was at my wedding a few months earlier) Human brain is a weird thing and I hate seeing mighty people succumb to biology bullshit sorry for the rant
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Re: My Friend's Dad has Alzheimer's/Dementia. She ask me to help him with mushrooms. [Re: RedNeckBow]
#27772834 - 05/11/22 04:06 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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If you are only talking about a microdose there couldn't be that much harm if any. Who knows, it could even help.
I swear I hope somebody loads my ass up with drugs when I'm in hospice. I need a shit ton of them whether it helps or not.
I wanna go out candy flipping at 85 but that is just me.
Edit: Honestly it's probably better/safer to go with the general consensus on this one. Trust your gut though.
Good luck bro!
Edited by Vibetyme (05/11/22 04:11 PM)
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