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Whats up with a clear syringe...????
#2776335 - 06/08/04 10:39 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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I recently recieved my order from TLG and got one product with visible spores and the other with no visible spores. The strain is (EQ) and every other one i have ever got before; from other vendors was always dark with spores.Im not implying that its full of just distilled water but seeing helps believing sometimes. Is there any reason for concern...TLG stated that is perfectly normal but did not answer why this is..Personally i like to see dark syringes ....alot of shroomery members will agree...I think it gives reassurance to the customer.
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MikeOLogical
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Re: Whats up with a clear syringe...???? [Re: ]
#2776359 - 06/08/04 10:45 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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the best syringes of all time, i'm sure you've heard, were the PF syringes, and all of those were crystal clear...
a mushroom spore is microscopic... you can't see it... what you see floating in the darker syringe are clumps of thousands of spores each... the spores don't grow any better or faster when they're clumped up like that...
as for dark syringes, anyone can add some purple food coloring to a spore syringe...
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Sev
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Re: Whats up with a clear syringe...???? [Re: ]
#2776372 - 06/08/04 10:50 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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If you got it from TLG, your clear syringe contains tons of spores, trust me.
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boxtop703
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Re: Whats up with a clear syringe...???? [Re: ]
#2776504 - 06/08/04 11:24 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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I've answered you in e-mail, others have answered you in the cultivation forum and now people have answered you here in this double post.
The funny thing is I happen to know that the EQ you have actually has more spores in it than the one where you see particles. I know because I made it.
Many people (usually newbs) are unaware as to why some syringes have more visible spores than others even though the same amount of spores were used.
The answer is simple really: Foil vs paper. Yup, foil prints vs paper prints.
Clumping of spores is caused by moisture in the prints. It's the moisture that causes the spores to bind together. Foil prints retain moisture which is why the darker syringes are almost always made from foil spore prints. I know this because I have seen it replicated thousands and thousands of times.
Paper prints are a horse of a different color and I'll tell you right now that the EQ you received were made from prints on paper stock.
Paper absorbs moisture from the spores. Hence, the spores are much dryer and disolve and disperse much more readily.
HENCE NO VISIBILITY
It's really as simple as that.
If you had looked at them under a microscope (the purpose for which they are sold) you would know this.
My job is to create a quality product for my loyal customers not to reassure newbs.
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my_time
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Re: Whats up with a clear syringe...???? [Re: boxtop703]
#2776536 - 06/08/04 11:38 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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I guess you have to pick and choose your venders wisley around here. If your not willing to reassure new people like myself how will you gain anymore loyal long term customers? Even if the problem is just nothing to you because you know alreay the buyer dont.
snoopaloop
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boxtop703
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Re: Whats up with a clear syringe...???? [Re: my_time]
#2776547 - 06/08/04 11:44 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
my_time said: I guess you have to pick and choose your venders wisley around here. If your not willing to reassure new people like myself how will you gain anymore loyal long term customers? Even if the problem is just nothing to you because you know alreay the buyer dont.
snoopaloop
All my long-term customers were at one time first-time customers.
As soon as newbies look under the scope, they are reassured.
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boxtop703
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Re: Whats up with a clear syringe...???? [Re: Sev]
#2776558 - 06/08/04 11:49 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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Sev said: If you got it from TLG, your clear syringe contains tons of spores, trust me.
Hi Sev, you would know.
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matts
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Re: Whats up with a clear syringe...???? [Re: boxtop703]
#2776587 - 06/09/04 12:00 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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Roadkill
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Re: Whats up with a clear syringe...???? [Re: my_time]
#2776594 - 06/09/04 12:03 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
my_time said: I guess you have to pick and choose your venders wisley around here. If your not willing to reassure new people like myself how will you gain anymore loyal long term customers? Even if the problem is just nothing to you because you know alreay the buyer dont.
snoopaloop
2 posts = puppet
Anyone that has done any kind of reading or research knows that you don't need to see spores in a spore syringe to have shit loads of them in there.
I suggest all you newbies do some reading before bitching about things that you know nothing of.
SLAPS Newbies and puppet!~
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MikeOLogical
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Re: Whats up with a clear syringe...???? [Re: matts]
#2776616 - 06/09/04 12:10 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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I gotta disagree with that... i've used a lot of vendor syringes in my day, and PFs were the only ones i ever had that germinated in 100% of the innoculation points... I haven't seen a single vendor match that performance before or since...
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matts
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Re: Whats up with a clear syringe...???? [Re: MikeOLogical]
#2776677 - 06/09/04 12:42 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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MikeOLogical
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Re: Whats up with a clear syringe...???? [Re: matts]
#2776696 - 06/09/04 12:50 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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funny... the only dealers i've tried in that list were sporeworks, and those were mexicanas... so mebbe i been shopping the wrong dealers?
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Rose
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Re: Whats up with a clear syringe...???? [Re: MikeOLogical]
#2776715 - 06/09/04 12:56 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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The way I see it, either you are right and Matts is wrong... Matts is right and you are wrong... you are both right... or you are both wrong. Either way, it doesn't matter. Mike, PF cakes are not ideal for a lot of cubes, cubes can prefer a more nutrient filled substrate... especially cubes that are close to wild... or the larger strains. Some strains simply need to be trained to grow well on certain substrates. Perhaps THAT is why you had such success with PF's syringes.
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pleezr
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Re: Whats up with a clear syringe...???? [Re: ]
#2776782 - 06/09/04 01:23 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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Strains can vary on different substrates. But there is no mistaking TLG and their Golden Teacher.
Check out what TLG spores are made of http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...&PHPSESSID=
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MikeOLogical
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Re: Whats up with a clear syringe...???? [Re: pleezr]
#2776804 - 06/09/04 01:37 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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absolutely beautiful... those GTs made my mouth water...
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matts
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Re: Whats up with a clear syringe...???? [Re: Rose]
#2776827 - 06/09/04 01:49 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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Rose
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Re: Whats up with a clear syringe...???? [Re: matts]
#2776887 - 06/09/04 02:18 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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You think I'm right? I was only hedging my bets
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psilocyber
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Re: Whats up with a clear syringe...???? [Re: MikeOLogical]
#2777147 - 06/09/04 05:59 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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Mike,
YOu had problem with a Ps. mexicana syringe from us? Did we make it right by you? This is an exotic species which sometimes has trouble staying stable in the syringe, but as always we replace any defect product with our 100% satisfaction gaurantee.
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Ripple
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Re: Whats up with a clear syringe...???? [Re: ]
#2777249 - 06/09/04 07:44 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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You have your answer, you basically have no idea what your talking about!
You have double posted this stupidity as well!
Click!
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MikeOLogical
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Re: Whats up with a clear syringe...???? [Re: psilocyber]
#2777644 - 06/09/04 10:32 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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no, no problem at all, I just didn't use pf jars with them, so they weren't suitable for the comparison i was making, is all...
i was very happy with the products I got from sporeworks
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