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Soo confused about this grow
    #27762534 - 05/04/22 09:12 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Is this what’s called blobbing? What exactly is it and what causes it… can anyone tell me judging by pics alone why these fruits are coming in so inconsistent??



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Re: Soo confused about this grow [Re: Daddy4487]
    #27762546 - 05/04/22 09:28 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

You got basically three options: crappy surface conditions, genetics, and bacterial infection.

I can't tell anything definitively from these pictures, but my official guess is some combination of all three.

Knowing what strain you're running, and how old the tub is, would also help.


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Re: Soo confused about this grow [Re: B Traven]
    #27762629 - 05/04/22 10:30 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

The variety is Ajax and I spawned the tub on 3/22


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Re: Soo confused about this grow [Re: Daddy4487] * 1
    #27762652 - 05/04/22 10:51 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Your surface conditions are the culprit. There is enough knotting there to indicate a good canopy producing culture. You just need to find out what it likes.


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Re: Soo confused about this grow [Re: Nichrome]
    #27762688 - 05/04/22 11:16 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

That’s what I was assuming, I’ve tried everything from letting it dry up a bit to drenching it down and everywhere in between….. I noticed one of the plates I used to start cleaning the culture started to pin in a familiar fashion



Could this just be a result of bad genetics??


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Re: Soo confused about this grow [Re: Daddy4487]
    #27762727 - 05/04/22 11:54 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Genetics aren't really good or bad in that sense, only "better" or "worse". A "better" culture might have come through already, and a "worse" one might not have knotted as much. Great genetics and a clean culture will be more forgiving, but that still doesn't necessarily you got surface conditions properly dialed in.

If you've been manipulating this tub for weeks trying to get it to fruit, then that's probably part of your problem by now. Over-drying and over-wetting create problems of their own, as compared to a surface that hits its stride right out the starting gate.

And given the amount of time that's passed, and the anemic appearance of that fruit cluster, I still suspect bacterial issues. Which could also be exacerbated by excessive surface wetting.

The pinning on those plates doesn't concern me, the weird growth patterns do. But that could just be agar recipe, quirks of that particular culture, etc.

Personally, I'd dump a tub that had been around for that long and looked like that. If I were dead-set on trying to pull it through, I'd do my best to leave it alone and just see what happened.

If I had a plate that looked like that, and was dead-set on using it, I'd take a few more rounds of transfers from it, along those organized growing edges.


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Re: Soo confused about this grow [Re: B Traven]
    #27762779 - 05/04/22 12:26 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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Genetics aren't really good or bad in that sense, only "better" or "worse". A "better" culture might have come through already, and a "worse" one might not have knotted as much. Great genetics and a clean culture will be more forgiving, but that still doesn't necessarily you got surface conditions properly dialed in.

If you've been manipulating this tub for weeks trying to get it to fruit, then that's probably part of your problem by now. Over-drying and over-wetting create problems of their own, as compared to a surface that hits its stride right out the starting gate.

And given the amount of time that's passed, and the anemic appearance of that fruit cluster, I still suspect bacterial issues. Which could also be exacerbated by excessive surface wetting.

The pinning on those plates doesn't concern me, the weird growth patterns do. But that could just be agar recipe, quirks of that particular culture, etc.

Personally, I'd dump a tub that had been around for that long and looked like that. If I were dead-set on trying to pull it through, I'd do my best to leave it alone and just see what happened.

If I had a plate that looked like that, and was dead-set on using it, I'd take a few more rounds of transfers from it, along those organized growing edges.






Thanks for the insight bud… that plate isn’t the one I used to knock up my grain spawn, I just thought that maybe the resemblance in the pinning might have something to do with one another… I appreciate all the good advise tho,,,, theirs a decent chance it coulda been bacterial… I believe it was only a T2/T3 and i thought it looked decent enough to try inoculating a jar


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