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Re: Harvest questions [Re: The Tao] * 1
    #27766792 - 05/07/22 12:45 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

I read it from one of the many posts on this message board. This is why this board difficult sometimes because you read what other people try and then you gets responses like "where did you read that?". Everything i have read said you know your batch is dry when the biggest mushroom is cracker dry. It breaks with a snap.

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Re: Harvest questions [Re: The Tao] * 1
    #27766793 - 05/07/22 12:49 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

If you have any other suggestions please let me know I'm here to learn the right way.

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Re: Harvest questions [Re: Headspace111] * 1
    #27766795 - 05/07/22 12:54 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Well they seem cracker dry after about 6-8 hours.  They might be good after that long with just a few shrooms.  But they might and probably will still have some moisture in the middle of the stems even though they break and snap. If any moisture is left after about a week the stems start to bend instead of snap. No Bueno.

So to be sure just leave them in longer. I leave them for at least 24 hrs and the big fat ones get dried for longer or cut in half.  You can't get them too dry.

I don't even dry my mushrooms inside anymore.  I put them outside basically under a patio area to dry them and I set a timer.


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Re: Harvest questions [Re: Headspace111]
    #27766895 - 05/07/22 04:50 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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I read it from one of the many posts on this message board. This is why this board difficult sometimes because you read what other people try and then you gets responses like "where did you read that?". Everything i have read said you know your batch is dry when the biggest mushroom is cracker dry. It breaks with a snap.



There are certainly a lot of opinions offered here and figuring what works and what doesn’t takes time. I just wondered where your info was from.
I dry for 24 hours at 160F. Potent and I’ve never opened a jar and found soft mushrooms. They turn to powder.
This is from 2017 but still a good read.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23782274#top

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Re: Harvest questions [Re: The Tao]
    #27767386 - 05/07/22 01:32 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks I'm gonna give this a read now. Just turned the heat up as well. The small ones I've had at 105 are crisp but the bigger ones certainly aren't ready yet so I'll run for most of the day at 165.

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Re: Harvest questions [Re: hazyhorse]
    #27772210 - 05/11/22 04:00 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Hey got a question about measurements. I have four 5lb spawn bags on a shelf right now and I'm going mono with 2 bags and shoebox with the other 2. I'm not sure how to measure a myco quart though. I have a quart measuring cup, when I'm ready can I just pour the colonized grain into the measuring cup and that would be considered a myco quart? I'm getting hung up on specific measurements because I don't want to under spawn my substrate after I make it. I'm using a 40qt tub for the mono and I'm going to dub tub with 6qt shoeboxes.

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Re: Harvest questions [Re: Headspace111]
    #27772358 - 05/11/22 07:53 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

1 myco quart =about 3/4 quart jar fully colonized.

I'd probably make at least 3 shoeboxes with one 5lb bag. I'm not familiar with bags, I just know there is a lot more in one then two shoeboxes worth.

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Re: Harvest questions [Re: Headspace111]
    #27772455 - 05/11/22 10:06 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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So I've read that with cakes you harvest as the veil breaks.




With whatever you're growing on, you harvest when you feel like it. Sometime after pinning, and sometime before the fruits start to rot. Anybody who tells you there's a definite particular exact harvest point is blowing smoke.

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When do I know the flush on each cake is finished though?




Flushes are an imaginary concept which some people make more real through genetic manipulation and careful control of surface conditions. Multispore syringe to PF cakes is going to give you pins that pop out whenever they feel like it.

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I read it from one of the many posts on this message board. This is why this board difficult sometimes because you read what other people try and then you gets responses like "where did you read that?". Everything i have read said you know your batch is dry when the biggest mushroom is cracker dry. It breaks with a snap.




There are over 20 years' worth of posts on here, and the only check in place for anyone spreading misinformation is other people saying "no, actually, that's bullshit." It's not hard to accidentally read old/outdated information, some of which the people responding now have never seen. I recommend searching for posts on what you're looking for that are no more than 5 years old, and posted by Trusted Cultivators. That should at least keep you on threads with relatively solid info.

There used to be a lot more concern over heat destroying actives, and all sorts of goofy low-temperature drying schemes. Cubes used to pretty much always be a little chewy, and stored in plastic sandwich bags. People also used to get stomach aches every time they tripped, and really never know exactly how high they'd get because they didn't know how much psilocybin had degraded under those crappy storage conditions. Now, most people say 160 degrees until cracker-dry. In another 5-10 years, we'll probably have actual analytical data, and perhaps see further modifications to that basic advice.

I wouldn't be happy with just snapping my biggest fruit in half. I want anything coming out of the dehydrator to crumble to powder if I rub it between my fingers. I also pull my fruits apart before drying, both to inspect them and to avoid any issues with case-drying (exterior seems dry, but there's still residual moisture in the interior.)


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Re: Harvest questions [Re: B Traven]
    #27773459 - 05/12/22 02:14 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Hey thanks that was a good reply. Advice taken on all points. I did turn up the heat to 160 when drying and did wait until they crumbled in my hands. So it worked out pretty well. It does get a little intimidating when going through so much information but I've gluten getting better at vetting the info. I did dunk the 2 cakes that were finished and they sat dormant for a few days and now they have pins again. This is a pic of one of my other cakes that is doing really well I think.


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Re: Harvest questions [Re: Vibetyme]
    #27773461 - 05/12/22 02:18 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

So I was wrong about the bag... its a 2-2.5lb bag which is 2 myco quarts. That made it a little easier for me to figure out what I needed to do. I got the 5lb from it being a 5-grain spawn bag but if I read a little more I would have seen that I was wrong. Could I still fill up my quart measuring cup with the colonized grain and consider it a quart that way?

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Re: Harvest questions [Re: Headspace111]
    #27773475 - 05/12/22 02:57 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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So I was wrong about the bag... its a 2-2.5lb bag which is 2 myco quarts. That made it a little easier for me to figure out what I needed to do. I got the 5lb from it being a 5-grain spawn bag but if I read a little more I would have seen that I was wrong. Could I still fill up my quart measuring cup with the colonized grain and consider it a quart that way?




Yes a quart is a quart whether it's in a cup or a bag :confused:


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