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Harvest questions
#27761623 - 05/03/22 04:05 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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So I've read that with cakes you harvest as the veil breaks. This is a picture of the one cake that has matured before all the others. The fat one on top broke its veil 2 days ago and the cluster of 3 were half the size last night, and when I wake up their growth doubled and they broke their veil. I know the big guy has to come off but what about the cluster? They matured so fast I don't know if I should leave for another say to allow them to grow in size? Or if the veil breaks, no matter the mushroom size are they mature and ready to harvest? The white ones on the other cake are supposed to be G.T. but look nothing them it. I got the spores from M.M.M., possible I got mislabeled spores?
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Dont mention vendors in cultivation.
Spores are not mislabelled. The mushrooms you get from growing spores are not going to be exact copies of what you see in pictures. There is genetic variation. With any cubensis strain that is not a stable mutated variety you will just get mushrooms that look like cubensis.
Harvest the ones that the veils broke on. Let the rest grow. Once they are all matured and harvested dunk and roll your cakes and then put back in FC for second flush.
Edited by TheDirtFarmer (05/03/22 04:22 PM)
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Also did you just mist this tub? Those mushrooms are super wet and will get little black splotches of bacteria growing on them if they stay soaked like that. But you can let the cluster mature a bit more for sure. And as the dirt farmer said there's genetic variation when you go from a spore syringe. There's millions of different combinations in each syringe depending on which spore germinate together. They all look good just a tad to wet to my eyes.
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Re: Harvest questions [Re: WyoMX]
#27761703 - 05/03/22 05:21 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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if it’s your first grow you’re supposed to eat the heart of the biggest one fresh.
I would just harvest them all unless you’re trying to make some prints…
did the cake on the right fall over? it’s all dirty
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Sorry didn't mean to mention any vendor so I could bad mouth them or to get off topic. Just wasn't sure if anybody had the same thing happen from the vendor.
I did just mist them but I spray the cakes when I do, along with the walls. So I won't spray the cakes anymore.
The dirty one didn't fall over. They were pins that grew inside the jar before I birthed it and didn't come off during the dunk. Then I rolled them in verm so thats why it looks dirty.
Yes this is my first grow so I will definitely eat the biggest one. Could I store the ones I harvest in the fridge until they are all harvested and then dry? Or should I dry them as I pick them?
Edited by Headspace111 (05/03/22 05:47 PM)
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Re: Harvest questions [Re: WyoMX]
#27761735 - 05/03/22 05:53 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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If the veils are broken and you want them to mature more how would I know to pick them before they go bad or drop spores?
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Should I be fanning also? I read yes on some threads and "you don't have to" on others. I put a small 5" fan facing away from it and tried to use that to pull out the CO2 but it decreased my humidity drastically and I'm not home long enough to keep misting because of the fan.
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What do you think will happen if they sporelate a little? Hurts nothing and that's when they're done. I personally let them go as long as possible without becoming a mess. Others like them early. Personal preference. 🤙
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Edited by MTZ (05/03/22 06:41 PM)
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Re: Harvest questions [Re: MTZ]
#27761766 - 05/03/22 06:17 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm not sure what will happen to be honest. This is my first grow and my reactions are coming from the things people write on here. I get anxiety because my lack of experience causes me to fear that I might do something wrong and ruin what I'm trying to learn.
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Quote:
Headspace111 said: Should I be fanning also? I read yes on some threads and "you don't have to" on others. I put a small 5" fan facing away from it and tried to use that to pull out the CO2 but it decreased my humidity drastically and I'm not home long enough to keep misting because of the fan.
Been a while since i PFTek'd but i was fanning. I just used the lid from the tote and waved it around for like 30 seconds above the tub. Usually i would open the tub, fan, then mist. Once before work and another time before bed.
If the cakes are looking dry you can mist more often. You got some mushrooms your first try so you are not doing terrible. You will get the hang of things after a couple grows.
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you don’t have to fan at all & you def don’t wanna run fans around your grow. all the air exchange happens passively you don’t need a fan to do that & as you found out, it’ll dry out your tubs faster
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Re: Harvest questions [Re: hazyhorse]
#27761948 - 05/03/22 08:15 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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 I’m with hazy. I grow a lot of cakes. I rarely mist and I don’t fan.
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I ran home from work and misted the tub real quick. I pulled the big one and the cluster of 3 were pulled as well because the cap had flattened out already. It took me about 5 minutes to carefully pull them off because there were other pins growing around them. That should be long enough to get the CO2 out I hope? Here's the pics of my results so far.
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Re: Harvest questions [Re: The Tao]
#27762105 - 05/03/22 10:13 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm looking at your pic and seeing the same blackish marks on the caps that I had. I was scared that the misting did this and created bacteria. It came off pretty easily when I wiped them and blotted the top of the caps dry because they were really wet. Was that ok to do or am I being over paranoid?
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Also I don't have a dehydrator until Friday, so I put what I had in a paper bag and put them in the back of my fridge. They gonna be ok till then?
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Yeah they will be fine in a bag in the fridge for at least 4 or 5 days.
I usually put mine in a Tupperware with a paper towel to catch any moisture.
Both work fine to keep mushrooms fresh for a few days.
Good job!
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Re: Harvest questions [Re: Vibetyme]
#27762343 - 05/04/22 03:32 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thank you. Its nice to see the project wasn't a failure. Got 4 bags incubating right now and going to try my skills at shoebox tek or bulk. Not sure yet. Hearing negative things about using a spore syringe for bags so hopefully they turn out ok...
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The black marks are spores. I let those mushrooms mature more than I usually do because I was making prints.
 Some people wipe the spores off. I don’t bother but I also try to harvest as the caps open and before spores are released. Let’s call it being careful instead of paranoid.
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Re: Harvest questions [Re: The Tao]
#27762988 - 05/04/22 02:44 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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yeah, spores aren’t really bad they are just messy & some people say it affects the flavor. cubes kinda taste like shit all around to me so i harvest whenever it’s most convenient. i usually catch them after the spore drop begins
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Re: Harvest questions [Re: hazyhorse]
#27763145 - 05/04/22 04:56 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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So the spores come from both the top of the cap and from the gills?
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