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Re: PE just too big [Re: AphexPin]
#27758681 - 05/01/22 12:26 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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I mean, if they don’t know any better…..
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Re: PE just too big [Re: hOxt] 1
#27758686 - 05/01/22 12:32 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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hOxt said: I mean, if they don’t know any better…..
You keep implying large fruits are less potent. If you think that, then I can see how you'd arrive at thinking they're worse, but I don't think that's necessarily true. Assuming you're eating dried fruits and measuring by weight, of course.
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Re: PE just too big [Re: AphexPin]
#27758694 - 05/01/22 12:40 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think the issue with big fruits and potency is that when you dose from one mushroom, if it’s weak you’re gonna be let down. Eating a handful of smaller ones is more likely to average out potencies.
But that also means that if you get a culture of huge potent mushrooms, you’ll be set.
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Re: PE just too big [Re: A.k.a]
#27758702 - 05/01/22 12:47 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: I think the issue with big fruits and potency is that when you dose from one mushroom, if it’s weak you’re gonna be let down. Eating a handful of smaller ones is more likely to average out potencies.
But that also means that if you get a culture of huge potent mushrooms, you’ll be set.
That's true, interesting statistical take there lol, sample size bias and all. Anyway, AFAIK fruits grow by cellular expansion, not division, so they just put on water after a certain point. I don't see how that'd result in potency loss, and in my experience there's no clear correlation between size and potency, assuming all are equally dried etc etc (part of me thinks the 'pins are more potent' belief is influenced by them drying quicker/better, since they already hold less water per unit mass to begin with). For me, the only strong correlation I've observed with potency is in slower forming fruit bodies. I personally think they get more time to spend transporting the goodies this way.
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Re: PE just too big [Re: AphexPin]
#27758814 - 05/01/22 02:39 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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i think smaller more sold mushrooms with the veils still attached are for sure better than a monster mushrooms or even ones with the caps dropping spores.
subjectively at least \
some of the best and what i would call a religious experience is when me and one of my best friends at an 1/8 each of Panaeolus cyanescens
they look TINY when dried out.
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Re: PE just too big [Re: Penroc3]
#27758822 - 05/01/22 02:44 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah dude, the veils. It’s always such a disappointment to see these otherwise excellent grows getting ruined at the end with flat caps and spores everywhere.
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Re: PE just too big [Re: Penroc3]
#27758826 - 05/01/22 02:46 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Penroc3 said: i think smaller more sold mushrooms with the veils still attached are for sure better than a monster mushrooms or even ones with the caps dropping spores.
subjectively at least \
some of the best and what i would call a religious experience is when me and one of my best friends at an 1/8 each of Panaeolus cyanescens
they look TINY when dried out.
Well that's a whole different species to be fair.
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Re: PE just too big [Re: AphexPin]
#27758838 - 05/01/22 02:53 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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of course
i have never been successful trying to grow them.
i can get it going on agar but they always get infected by some bacteria
such a good mushroom that even if the caps are open they are wicked strong
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Re: PE just too big [Re: Penroc3]
#27758840 - 05/01/22 02:54 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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I still need to try 'em. My buddy had pretty severe woodlovers paralysis so I'm kinda reluctant.
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Re: PE just too big [Re: AphexPin]
#27758894 - 05/01/22 03:29 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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it was the only time on mushrooms where i had legit hallucinations
i saw my friends face turn into a lion, she said i turned into a catfish
also the one of two times i could her some ones thoughts.
my friend and i are super close and we were sitting there just bullshitting as one does and laughing and having a great time until i realized i hadn't opended my mouth.
i could her her thoughts like she was talking to me.
definitely fell into the abyss on that trip....i lost everything that made me human. No memories, no thoughts just existence
would you say that different cube strains have any difference other than how they look
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Re: PE just too big [Re: Penroc3]
#27758904 - 05/01/22 03:40 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Sounds like a crazy trip! In my experience, yeah different varieties will have slightly different effects. My PEU for example is nice body high, little visuals, APEs are the opposite with almost no body high, but lots of visuals. My gf loves the PEUs for pain relief, but doesn't really care for the APEs, for example. Not sure if it's trend between varieties or cultures though, still trying to figure that out. Takes a lot of culture and harvest organization, notes and repeated testing / large sample size.. I'm hoping with legalization this stuff becomes a bit more refined.
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Re: PE just too big [Re: AphexPin] 1
#27758914 - 05/01/22 03:45 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Pan cyans aren’t woodlovers, those are ps cyan. Super confusing at first.
But yeah pans are easily the most visual shrooms I’ve taken. Takes things to a whole new level. And that’s just on like .7, an eighth of pans is insane that’s like a half ounce of cubes.
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Re: PE just too big [Re: A.k.a]
#27759314 - 05/01/22 09:32 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Oops, yeah misread that. I really got to get around to growing some pans, I’ve heard nothing but good things. I’ve only ever done tamps and cubes, liked the visuals on tamps and they kept my head pretty clear too. What’s your favorite exotic? Would love to try growing whatever gets closest to LSD or MDMA if there’s anything like that.
Sorry to get off topic I’ll bump it over to a diff thread need be.
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Re: PE just too big [Re: A.k.a]
#27765996 - 05/06/22 01:30 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: I think the issue with big fruits and potency is that when you dose from one mushroom, if it’s weak you’re gonna be let down. Eating a handful of smaller ones is more likely to average out potencies.
But that also means that if you get a culture of huge potent mushrooms, you’ll be set.
Fuck, that's a great point. Never thought about it that way.
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Re: PE just too big [Re: AphexPin]
#27766004 - 05/06/22 01:33 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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AphexPin said: (part of me thinks the 'pins are more potent' belief is influenced by them drying quicker/better, since they already hold less water per unit mass to begin with)
Could be, but I independently stumbled across that impression on my first PF grow, when I ended up picking a bunch of pins and splitting an 8th of them with a friend. I got orders of magnitude higher than I expected to.
I also just find it hard to believe that the chitin:actives ratio actually remains constant throughout the life cycle of a fruit.
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Re: PE just too big [Re: Tstone]
#27767549 - 05/07/22 03:59 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah, that's PE for ya! First grow here, and the very first fruit was a monster like yours. Must be genetics of PE, I'm guessing.
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Re: PE just too big [Re: iceNock]
#27767553 - 05/07/22 04:02 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Tstone said: Not a fan of APE,each PE is 2-3 people worth, just big, wondering, with months of cloning work, if there's an environmental way to reduce size.
Have you tried running them in smaller containers so there's a smaller water reservoir? Possibly shoeboxes?
We fruited a giant fruit off of a tiny 1.5 lb brick. I honestly believe it's PE genetics that make them this big.
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Re: PE just too big [Re: KeyMaker]
#27767556 - 05/07/22 04:05 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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KeyMaker said: I don't get it. Looks like you did an awesome job lol
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Re: PE just too big [Re: Penroc3]
#27767561 - 05/07/22 04:08 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Penroc3 said: here is an interview with the creator of so called Penis Envy
it has a lot of info regarding genetics if you listen to all of it.
THANK YOU!
the one thing i don't like is the shout out to MushroomJohn(pedo)
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