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 psychedemus
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#27758637 - 05/01/22 11:53 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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friend put 5-meo-dmt salt in to water for substrate of second flush. I took mushrooms for 5 days straight sharing with 3 other people doing same during same time. no psilocybin effect. basically oral 5-meo-dmt with longer than psilocbyin half life. Since then have taken over 50 times and shared with hundreds of people.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2614674/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17262409/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4-Hydroxy-5-methoxydimethyltryptamine
Edited by psychedemus (08/17/22 06:52 AM)
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LuzHC
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You mean he put it in the water used for rehydration? Why not hydrate the grains and bulk with it instead?
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 nooneman
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Isn't 5-meo-dmt orally active?
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Re: Psilomethoxin is Real [Re: nooneman] 1
#27759448 - 05/02/22 12:26 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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I've been wondering if it's possible to make 4-HO-mitragagynine by adding kratom to substrate.
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Re: Psilomethoxin is Real [Re: Mr.Giggles] 1
#27760950 - 05/03/22 05:46 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Psilomethoxin is Real [Re: nooneman] 1
#27761164 - 05/03/22 09:38 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
nooneman said:
Isn't 5-meo-dmt orally active?
This is what I'm trying to understand here, the mushrooms actively absorbed the 5-meo-dmt and replaced the psilocybin?
Sorry but the posted excerpts don't really give sufficient info, well for my understanding.
What is being gained here other than the altered content of the mushroom?
Are you looking to use the Baeocystin as an maoi?
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Re: Psilomethoxin is Real [Re: DERRAYLD] 1
#27761460 - 05/03/22 01:26 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Read the wiki link, might help
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Mr.Giggles
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Can you write a trip report for science? It sounds really interesting.
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Quote:
Sofaking420 said:
Read the wiki link, might help
Yeh, should have done that before.
Makes sense
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nooneman
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5-meo-dmt is orally active. If you add it to mushrooms, I expect you'd just end up with mushrooms containing 5-meo-dmt.
There's no scientific paper that has been published which proves that mushrooms will convert it to psilomethoxin. You can't tell whether or not this has taken place simply by eating the resulting mushrooms. You'd have to have a reference sample of pure psilomethoxin, and then compare the resulting chemicals extracted from the mushrooms with the reference sample using stuff like mass spectrometry and so on. Then you'd have to publish your results in a peer reviewed journal. To my knowledge, that hasn't been done.
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Re: Psilomethoxin is Real [Re: nooneman] 1
#27764194 - 05/05/22 10:21 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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The article on wiki (obviously not the best source) says:
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However, Alexander Shulgin has explained that it could be possible to cultivate 4-HO-5-MeO-DMT in psilocybin mushrooms by adding 5-MeO-DMT to the growing substrate of the fungus. This method was finally tested and proven with 5-MeO-DMT by members of the Church of Psilomethoxin in 2021, and had previously been used successfully for changing DET into 4-HO-DET and 4-PO-DET, both of which had never before been found in nature.
It links to this article: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2614674/
I can't find how the Church "Proved" it though.
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MariaTruthSeeker
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Re: Psilomethoxin is Real [Re: FungiPapi] 2
#28256150 - 03/31/23 12:46 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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Quote:
FungiPapi said:
I can't find how the Church "Proved" it though.
Turns out you were probably right to be skeptical.
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I will accept that as 97% fact until the person identifies themselves and the lab and it will be 99.999% because they could have just swapped the sample. A lot of people seem to want this “church” to be wrong so there is some incentive for making a false investigation but I agree with most of the falseflags. The only one I hadn’t heard was same dosage range, I had heard the dosage was under a gram but I could be wrong.
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myc_ousin_vinny
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1st Post on the Shroomery about dubious cult/church claims. You came here specifically to tell us about this?
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NotSheekle
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My bad
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Re: Psilomethoxin is Real [Re: NotSheekle] 1
#28256621 - 03/31/23 05:47 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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I can’t find it right now but there was a long ass thread about the church. I went down the rabbit hole reading about them. I’m not saying it’s not real but I think the church charges something like $300 an ounce for it? I need to find that thread.
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myc_ousin_vinny
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Never mind…. my bad.
It was “ Temple of the True Inner Light”.
Totally different group.
I’ll back out now lol.
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MariaTruthSeeker
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Ouchie guess it wasn't real after all, but it was fun while it lasted:
Fungi Fiction
Their response to this testing is hilarious! Like they are living in an alternate reality where they can wish things into existence through the power of thought alone. I'm sure the judge will buy that 
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Re: Psilomethoxin is Real [Re: iateshaggy]
#28283593 - 04/18/23 11:19 AM (11 months, 22 days ago) |
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