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Tstone
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PE just too big 1
#27756428 - 04/29/22 11:11 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Been at this for a while. My harvests ( individual mushies) tend to be larger than average but manageable. Which is great, until my PE. Freaking monsters, from mid sized clones, first flush. This is a third set of a clone master, from a third individual spore work. Every time, donkey dicks, not practical, yield is off the charts. How does one strive for smaller mushies? Even experienced folks have questions. Can I reduce size environmentally? Sounds silly. First flush ..
All these, this is nothing, waist deep in these fuckers. First flush, average wet weight for each is 50-70g, many over 80-90g. Just too big for practicality. I'm not talking one tub. Suggestions? 66 qt monos.
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Edited by Tstone (04/29/22 01:21 PM)
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Re: PE just too big [Re: Tstone] 1
#27756431 - 04/29/22 11:14 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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What's the problem exactly? Tried APE for smaller but similar strength?
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Re: PE just too big [Re: iceNock] 1
#27756443 - 04/29/22 11:21 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Not a fan of APE,each PE is 2-3 people worth, just big, wondering, with months of cloning work, if there's an environmental way to reduce size.
Don't want to start from square one again, with PE, other current projects going on. You want a 7 gr dried, single mushy? Not practical in everyday life.
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Edited by Tstone (04/29/22 11:26 AM)
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Re: PE just too big [Re: Tstone] 1
#27756451 - 04/29/22 11:25 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Tstone said: Not a fan of APE,each PE is 2-3 people worth, just big, wondering, with months of cloning work, if there's an environmental way to reduce size.
Have you tried running them in smaller containers so there's a smaller water reservoir? Possibly shoeboxes?
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Re: PE just too big [Re: iceNock] 1
#27756457 - 04/29/22 11:30 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Smaller tubs will just lead to bigger fruits, You want more pins/fruits in your flushes so size evens out. Seems you have less fruits ea flush thatll make huge dicks
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Re: PE just too big [Re: iceNock] 1
#27756459 - 04/29/22 11:31 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Maybe I'll try a thinner sub, I'm not buying shoeboxes, thxs though. I'm not talking 1 Mono tub. Currently I'm running about 4"-4.25" subs, but helps by maintenance free tubs for the life of the tub, no sub floating, no messing with, just a simple mist after a flush. Out side of harvesting, I don't open my tubs at all. Set and forget.
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Re: PE just too big [Re: Tstone] 2
#27756472 - 04/29/22 11:41 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Still not getting what the problem is... You can eat 1/3rd of a mushroom, the mushroom gods do allow that.
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Re: PE just too big [Re: Forrester] 1
#27756487 - 04/29/22 11:53 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Besides extra drying time, just not practical. I'm not cutting 15+ tubs of these in half to dry faster,lol. Looking for a possible environment solution,instead of butcher these to dry faster, or weigh a single mushy,have to crumble it,and have left overs and crumbs everywhere. Not practical for everyday. Sure they are impressive, but when people have to share one or there's 4 in an ounce, just not practical. That's all.
Looking for an environmental solution, so I don't need to start from spore again. If you're into cloning, you know the overall time it takes
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Edited by Tstone (04/29/22 11:56 AM)
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Re: PE just too big [Re: Tstone] 1
#27756489 - 04/29/22 11:59 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Theyre not even that big. Just dry normally @ 24 hours. 15 tubs wont take that long to harvest. Or grind them after and make edibles. Easy.
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They are on average 50-70 grams each. Guess, I'm not talking 16 ounces... Trust me.
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Edited by Tstone (04/29/22 12:06 PM)
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Re: PE just too big [Re: Tstone] 2
#27756494 - 04/29/22 12:04 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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You are being such a fussy Francis right now, you know that, right?
Why not make tea, or go to the local health food store and get a capsule machine and a coffee grinder from good will.
Everyone loves mushroom capsules, youll be the life of the party
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Nevermind, this is bulk. You're not getting it. It's not an ounce. I'm not talking this particular harvest, I'm talking about future runs, and environmentally control the size better, of this particular clone.
I'm not complaining, just wanted to try to reduce the size a bit environmentally, without starting from scratch again. Simple question. This harvest is wrapping up. 6 lbs of 7 gr shrooms not practical for future harvest, from drying to to everything.
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Edited by Tstone (04/29/22 12:28 PM)
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Quote:
SlugWorthx1 said: Theyre not even that big. Just dry normally @ 24 hours. 15 tubs wont take that long to harvest. Or grind them after and make edibles. Easy.
24 hours ain't gonna cut it lmao
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Re: PE just too big [Re: Tstone] 1
#27756510 - 04/29/22 12:25 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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I don't get it. Looks like you did an awesome job lol
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Re: PE just too big [Re: Tstone] 1
#27756515 - 04/29/22 12:29 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Tstone said: Nevermind, this is bulk. You're not getting it. It's not an ounce. I'm not talking this particular harvest, I'm talking about future runs, and environmentally control the size better, of this particular clone.
I'm not complaining, just wanted to try to reduce the size a bit environmentally, without starting from scratch again. Simple question. This harvest is wrapping up. 6 lbs of 7 gr shrooms not practical for future harvest, from drying to to everything.
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Re: PE just too big [Re: Tstone] 2
#27756518 - 04/29/22 12:30 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Slice em.
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For future work of the master clones I have, this round is pretty much done, all I want to do is environmentally reduce size for future runs. That's all I'm asking, since I'm just about to make more tubs.
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Re: PE just too big [Re: Tstone] 1
#27756538 - 04/29/22 12:51 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Maybe a 1:2 ratio and a shallow sub. I tend to get smaller fruits with a recipe like that
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I think I saw someone say over hydrated sub makes smaller fruits…i’m not very experienced so I’m not sure about it.
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May cut back my sub to 3-3.5", kinda of input was looking for, perhaps reduce FAE a bit, even try reduce sub moisture a bit, sub is already on the drier side. Thanks. Damn, just too big in general, not even to 2 and flush yet, lol. Making more tubs this weekend, but haveto work with current cultures until late summer.
Over wet, bigger problems from my experience, base rot, slow pinning, etc. Thxs though
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Edited by Tstone (04/29/22 01:02 PM)
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