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PE just too big 1
#27756428 - 04/29/22 11:11 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Been at this for a while. My harvests ( individual mushies) tend to be larger than average but manageable. Which is great, until my PE. Freaking monsters, from mid sized clones, first flush. This is a third set of a clone master, from a third individual spore work. Every time, donkey dicks, not practical, yield is off the charts. How does one strive for smaller mushies? Even experienced folks have questions. Can I reduce size environmentally? Sounds silly. First flush ..
All these, this is nothing, waist deep in these fuckers. First flush, average wet weight for each is 50-70g, many over 80-90g. Just too big for practicality. I'm not talking one tub. Suggestions? 66 qt monos.
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Re: PE just too big [Re: Tstone] 1
#27756431 - 04/29/22 11:14 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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What's the problem exactly? Tried APE for smaller but similar strength?
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Re: PE just too big [Re: iceNock] 1
#27756443 - 04/29/22 11:21 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Not a fan of APE,each PE is 2-3 people worth, just big, wondering, with months of cloning work, if there's an environmental way to reduce size.
Don't want to start from square one again, with PE, other current projects going on. You want a 7 gr dried, single mushy? Not practical in everyday life.
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Re: PE just too big [Re: Tstone] 1
#27756451 - 04/29/22 11:25 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Tstone said: Not a fan of APE,each PE is 2-3 people worth, just big, wondering, with months of cloning work, if there's an environmental way to reduce size.
Have you tried running them in smaller containers so there's a smaller water reservoir? Possibly shoeboxes?
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Re: PE just too big [Re: iceNock] 1
#27756457 - 04/29/22 11:30 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Smaller tubs will just lead to bigger fruits, You want more pins/fruits in your flushes so size evens out. Seems you have less fruits ea flush thatll make huge dicks
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Re: PE just too big [Re: iceNock] 1
#27756459 - 04/29/22 11:31 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Maybe I'll try a thinner sub, I'm not buying shoeboxes, thxs though. I'm not talking 1 Mono tub. Currently I'm running about 4"-4.25" subs, but helps by maintenance free tubs for the life of the tub, no sub floating, no messing with, just a simple mist after a flush. Out side of harvesting, I don't open my tubs at all. Set and forget.
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Re: PE just too big [Re: Tstone] 2
#27756472 - 04/29/22 11:41 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Still not getting what the problem is... You can eat 1/3rd of a mushroom, the mushroom gods do allow that.
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Re: PE just too big [Re: Forrester] 1
#27756487 - 04/29/22 11:53 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Besides extra drying time, just not practical. I'm not cutting 15+ tubs of these in half to dry faster,lol. Looking for a possible environment solution,instead of butcher these to dry faster, or weigh a single mushy,have to crumble it,and have left overs and crumbs everywhere. Not practical for everyday. Sure they are impressive, but when people have to share one or there's 4 in an ounce, just not practical. That's all.
Looking for an environmental solution, so I don't need to start from spore again. If you're into cloning, you know the overall time it takes
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Re: PE just too big [Re: Tstone] 1
#27756489 - 04/29/22 11:59 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Theyre not even that big. Just dry normally @ 24 hours. 15 tubs wont take that long to harvest. Or grind them after and make edibles. Easy.
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They are on average 50-70 grams each. Guess, I'm not talking 16 ounces... Trust me.
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Re: PE just too big [Re: Tstone] 2
#27756494 - 04/29/22 12:04 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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You are being such a fussy Francis right now, you know that, right?
Why not make tea, or go to the local health food store and get a capsule machine and a coffee grinder from good will.
Everyone loves mushroom capsules, youll be the life of the party
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Nevermind, this is bulk. You're not getting it. It's not an ounce. I'm not talking this particular harvest, I'm talking about future runs, and environmentally control the size better, of this particular clone.
I'm not complaining, just wanted to try to reduce the size a bit environmentally, without starting from scratch again. Simple question. This harvest is wrapping up. 6 lbs of 7 gr shrooms not practical for future harvest, from drying to to everything.
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SlugWorthx1 said: Theyre not even that big. Just dry normally @ 24 hours. 15 tubs wont take that long to harvest. Or grind them after and make edibles. Easy.
24 hours ain't gonna cut it lmao
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Re: PE just too big [Re: Tstone] 1
#27756510 - 04/29/22 12:25 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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I don't get it. Looks like you did an awesome job lol
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Re: PE just too big [Re: Tstone] 1
#27756515 - 04/29/22 12:29 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Tstone said: Nevermind, this is bulk. You're not getting it. It's not an ounce. I'm not talking this particular harvest, I'm talking about future runs, and environmentally control the size better, of this particular clone.
I'm not complaining, just wanted to try to reduce the size a bit environmentally, without starting from scratch again. Simple question. This harvest is wrapping up. 6 lbs of 7 gr shrooms not practical for future harvest, from drying to to everything.
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Re: PE just too big [Re: Tstone] 2
#27756518 - 04/29/22 12:30 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Slice em.
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For future work of the master clones I have, this round is pretty much done, all I want to do is environmentally reduce size for future runs. That's all I'm asking, since I'm just about to make more tubs.
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Re: PE just too big [Re: Tstone] 1
#27756538 - 04/29/22 12:51 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Maybe a 1:2 ratio and a shallow sub. I tend to get smaller fruits with a recipe like that
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I think I saw someone say over hydrated sub makes smaller fruits…i’m not very experienced so I’m not sure about it.
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May cut back my sub to 3-3.5", kinda of input was looking for, perhaps reduce FAE a bit, even try reduce sub moisture a bit, sub is already on the drier side. Thanks. Damn, just too big in general, not even to 2 and flush yet, lol. Making more tubs this weekend, but haveto work with current cultures until late summer.
Over wet, bigger problems from my experience, base rot, slow pinning, etc. Thxs though
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Re: PE just too big [Re: Tstone]
#27756575 - 04/29/22 01:29 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Do a 2' sub then you will have an extreme adjustment to see if it actually works and to what degree. No point fannying around if your life is oh-so-ruined by this situation.
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Re: PE just too big [Re: Tstone]
#27756668 - 04/29/22 02:38 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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here is an interview with the creator of so called Penis Envy
it has a lot of info regarding genetics if you listen to all of it.
the one thing i don't like is the shout out to MushroomJohn(pedo)
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Re: PE just too big [Re: Penroc3] 2
#27756814 - 04/29/22 04:52 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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I would actually go back to spore. There are plenty of smaller phenos so I would try to run a t1 plate and pick a couple clones.
Eventually you’ll hit the finger size mushroom pheno.
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Re: PE just too big [Re: A.k.a]
#27756858 - 04/29/22 05:54 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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of course
i feel like unless your breeding for a certain trait I don't see the need for agar isolation
Spores are chalk full of fresh genetics and if you get a good flush you could always take some of the cake and try to do a spawn run.
i personally like seeing the variation with spores.
in the video i posted it is the guy who plated them out to get the look they have
penis envoy are genetic misfits and would be super prone to genetic degradation i would assume
at the end of the day they are still cubes that have been plated out to the point of extream mutation
not exactly where i would start looking for good genetics
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Re: PE just too big [Re: Penroc3]
#27756873 - 04/29/22 06:07 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Wish I had this problem.
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Re: PE just too big [Re: Penroc3]
#27756886 - 04/29/22 06:12 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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AkA, that's what I was thinking, just trying to avoid. But what I'm also going to do, while I work with more spores, is take a g2 clone from what I'm currently harvesting. There's a few desirable sizes left in the tubs I can work with. See what happens, have had great luck in the past with G2 clones, had some master agar that froze in fridge a while back, had to keep those genetics,at all costs. They were even more stabilized a bit.
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Re: PE just too big [Re: Tstone]
#27756892 - 04/29/22 06:22 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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i think as long as you keep SOME fresh genetics in the mix you will eventually get what you are looking for as far as looks, size and strength
Look at humans, if the gene pool gets to shallow bad things happen.
ETA: make sure you dry them SUPER SUPER well and put a desiccant in the container with them
i would be interested to see one cut in half fresh
sometimes they can be hallow
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Re: PE just too big [Re: Penroc3]
#27756918 - 04/29/22 06:41 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Anybody that's been in game long enough, has undesirable harvests, it's not a perfect game. I can't tell you, how many bunk or undesirable masters I've tossed, tons... Looking for the winner, it's treasure hunt, but from clone, these monsters, we're extremely unexpected.
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Re: PE just too big [Re: Tstone]
#27756941 - 04/29/22 07:08 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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i just started following this thread so youll have to excuse the questions
did they pop up all together and that was it, or were there alot of aborts?
P.E can be touchy and kind of hard to grow.
if you are already plating out mycelium and cloning why don't you go to a more active strain?
you could try Panaeolus cyanescens if your looking for smaller much more potent mushrooms and they respond well to being sorted on agar.
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Re: PE just too big [Re: Penroc3]
#27756976 - 04/29/22 07:54 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Are you using a casing or a thick top layer? I tend to get more pins with casing over the thick TL.. more pins usually = smaller fruits
Of course that’d mean prepping a lot of casing material if it’s a lot of monos but it could fix the problem
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Re: PE just too big [Re: fahtster] 1
#27758063 - 04/30/22 08:11 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Fahster- I never thought about that- this particular run, I did use a thick top layer like 1"-1.5". I was under the gun to out of town, so I tried it. I've always used peat. My AA+, Cambodian, and Transkie, no difference, in fact my Cambodian hates peat moss. Same culture with a 1/2" top layer this run was dynamite. With the other 3 varieties, I didn't think about it, perhaps PE went nuts in size with a thick top layer. The tubs still averaged 6z dried ea, first flush. Pushing them for a second. I don't do thirds.
I'll keep that in mind. Appreciate.
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Re: PE just too big [Re: Tstone]
#27758200 - 04/30/22 11:01 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah to give you an idea, here’s the same culture with a peat casing and then a 2” compressed top layer

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Re: PE just too big [Re: fahtster]
#27758241 - 04/30/22 11:51 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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im thinking about going for a tray of Panaeolus cyanescens
any tips on that?
i can never grow PE myself as i know MushroomJohn had a hand in its creation.
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Re: PE just too big [Re: Penroc3]
#27758635 - 05/01/22 11:51 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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what's next, complaining about high potency? lmao. just get a bigger, cabinet style dehydrator. cabellas 160l is awesome. otherwise listen to fhat or start over from spores imo.
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Re: PE just too big [Re: AphexPin]
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Aside from drying time, I think it’s a issue with the appeal at the end. Would you rather have a oz of mushrooms that had many many individuals, or just a few big chunkers.l that you’d have to break up. Many believe (true or not) that each mushroom has the same amount of psilocybin in it, bigger ones just have it diluted through the whole mushroom while little ones are potent little morsels.
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Seamonkey84 said: Aside from drying time, I think it’s a issue with the appeal to the user at the end. Would you rather receive a oz of mushrooms that had many many individuals, or just a few big chunkers. Many believe (true or not) that each mushroom has the same amount of psilocybin in it, bigger ones just have it diluted through the whole mushroom while little ones are potent little morsels.
guess it just depends, most in my circle like the big ones cuz they look cool. but i know how annoying these wives tales can be.
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Exactly. I have had to take the reigns away from people on multiple occasions and build their bags for them. Left to their own devices, most people will always go for the monsters, which inevitably leads to complaints about potency.
How is this not common sense? Why would anyone want 1 fruit when they could have several?
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Re: PE just too big [Re: hOxt]
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hOxt said: Exactly. I have had to take the reigns away from people on multiple occasions and build their bags for them. Left to their own devices, most people will always go for the monsters, which inevitably leads to complaints about potency.
How is this not common sense? Why would anyone want 1 fruit when they could have several?
because potency is not necessarily worse in a larger fruit? i like larger fruits since it's less to deal with when harvesting, and my friends like them because they look awesome. my favorite fruits are cylindrical like what AKA posted since they pack so well and robust. but anyway it's kinda like how people like the big nugs.
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Re: PE just too big [Re: AphexPin]
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That’s a terrible comparison. Preferring top buds and colas actually makes sense. Preferring 1 mushroom over several is newbish and counter-productive.
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Re: PE just too big [Re: hOxt]
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hOxt said: That’s a terrible comparison. Preferring top buds and colas actually makes sense. Preferring 1 mushroom over several is newbish and counter-productive.
not really like i said, just depends on what the people want, and cultivators preference. that's common sense..
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Re: PE just too big [Re: AphexPin]
#27758681 - 05/01/22 12:26 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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I mean, if they don’t know any better…..
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hOxt said: I mean, if they don’t know any better…..
You keep implying large fruits are less potent. If you think that, then I can see how you'd arrive at thinking they're worse, but I don't think that's necessarily true. Assuming you're eating dried fruits and measuring by weight, of course.
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Re: PE just too big [Re: AphexPin]
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I think the issue with big fruits and potency is that when you dose from one mushroom, if it’s weak you’re gonna be let down. Eating a handful of smaller ones is more likely to average out potencies.
But that also means that if you get a culture of huge potent mushrooms, you’ll be set.
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Re: PE just too big [Re: A.k.a]
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A.k.a said: I think the issue with big fruits and potency is that when you dose from one mushroom, if it’s weak you’re gonna be let down. Eating a handful of smaller ones is more likely to average out potencies.
But that also means that if you get a culture of huge potent mushrooms, you’ll be set.
That's true, interesting statistical take there lol, sample size bias and all. Anyway, AFAIK fruits grow by cellular expansion, not division, so they just put on water after a certain point. I don't see how that'd result in potency loss, and in my experience there's no clear correlation between size and potency, assuming all are equally dried etc etc (part of me thinks the 'pins are more potent' belief is influenced by them drying quicker/better, since they already hold less water per unit mass to begin with). For me, the only strong correlation I've observed with potency is in slower forming fruit bodies. I personally think they get more time to spend transporting the goodies this way.
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Re: PE just too big [Re: AphexPin]
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i think smaller more sold mushrooms with the veils still attached are for sure better than a monster mushrooms or even ones with the caps dropping spores.
subjectively at least \
some of the best and what i would call a religious experience is when me and one of my best friends at an 1/8 each of Panaeolus cyanescens
they look TINY when dried out.
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Yeah dude, the veils. It’s always such a disappointment to see these otherwise excellent grows getting ruined at the end with flat caps and spores everywhere.
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Re: PE just too big [Re: Penroc3]
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Penroc3 said: i think smaller more sold mushrooms with the veils still attached are for sure better than a monster mushrooms or even ones with the caps dropping spores.
subjectively at least \
some of the best and what i would call a religious experience is when me and one of my best friends at an 1/8 each of Panaeolus cyanescens
they look TINY when dried out.
Well that's a whole different species to be fair.
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Re: PE just too big [Re: AphexPin]
#27758838 - 05/01/22 02:53 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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of course
i have never been successful trying to grow them.
i can get it going on agar but they always get infected by some bacteria
such a good mushroom that even if the caps are open they are wicked strong
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Re: PE just too big [Re: Penroc3]
#27758840 - 05/01/22 02:54 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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I still need to try 'em. My buddy had pretty severe woodlovers paralysis so I'm kinda reluctant.
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Re: PE just too big [Re: AphexPin]
#27758894 - 05/01/22 03:29 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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it was the only time on mushrooms where i had legit hallucinations
i saw my friends face turn into a lion, she said i turned into a catfish
also the one of two times i could her some ones thoughts.
my friend and i are super close and we were sitting there just bullshitting as one does and laughing and having a great time until i realized i hadn't opended my mouth.
i could her her thoughts like she was talking to me.
definitely fell into the abyss on that trip....i lost everything that made me human. No memories, no thoughts just existence
would you say that different cube strains have any difference other than how they look
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Re: PE just too big [Re: Penroc3]
#27758904 - 05/01/22 03:40 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Sounds like a crazy trip! In my experience, yeah different varieties will have slightly different effects. My PEU for example is nice body high, little visuals, APEs are the opposite with almost no body high, but lots of visuals. My gf loves the PEUs for pain relief, but doesn't really care for the APEs, for example. Not sure if it's trend between varieties or cultures though, still trying to figure that out. Takes a lot of culture and harvest organization, notes and repeated testing / large sample size.. I'm hoping with legalization this stuff becomes a bit more refined.
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Pan cyans aren’t woodlovers, those are ps cyan. Super confusing at first.
But yeah pans are easily the most visual shrooms I’ve taken. Takes things to a whole new level. And that’s just on like .7, an eighth of pans is insane that’s like a half ounce of cubes.
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Re: PE just too big [Re: A.k.a]
#27759314 - 05/01/22 09:32 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Oops, yeah misread that. I really got to get around to growing some pans, I’ve heard nothing but good things. I’ve only ever done tamps and cubes, liked the visuals on tamps and they kept my head pretty clear too. What’s your favorite exotic? Would love to try growing whatever gets closest to LSD or MDMA if there’s anything like that.
Sorry to get off topic I’ll bump it over to a diff thread need be.
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Re: PE just too big [Re: A.k.a]
#27765996 - 05/06/22 01:30 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: I think the issue with big fruits and potency is that when you dose from one mushroom, if it’s weak you’re gonna be let down. Eating a handful of smaller ones is more likely to average out potencies.
But that also means that if you get a culture of huge potent mushrooms, you’ll be set.
Fuck, that's a great point. Never thought about it that way.
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Re: PE just too big [Re: AphexPin]
#27766004 - 05/06/22 01:33 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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AphexPin said: (part of me thinks the 'pins are more potent' belief is influenced by them drying quicker/better, since they already hold less water per unit mass to begin with)
Could be, but I independently stumbled across that impression on my first PF grow, when I ended up picking a bunch of pins and splitting an 8th of them with a friend. I got orders of magnitude higher than I expected to.
I also just find it hard to believe that the chitin:actives ratio actually remains constant throughout the life cycle of a fruit.
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Re: PE just too big [Re: Tstone]
#27767549 - 05/07/22 03:59 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah, that's PE for ya! First grow here, and the very first fruit was a monster like yours. Must be genetics of PE, I'm guessing.
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Re: PE just too big [Re: iceNock]
#27767553 - 05/07/22 04:02 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Tstone said: Not a fan of APE,each PE is 2-3 people worth, just big, wondering, with months of cloning work, if there's an environmental way to reduce size.
Have you tried running them in smaller containers so there's a smaller water reservoir? Possibly shoeboxes?
We fruited a giant fruit off of a tiny 1.5 lb brick. I honestly believe it's PE genetics that make them this big.
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Re: PE just too big [Re: KeyMaker]
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KeyMaker said: I don't get it. Looks like you did an awesome job lol
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The Fresh Prints said: Slice em.
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Re: PE just too big [Re: Penroc3]
#27767561 - 05/07/22 04:08 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Penroc3 said: here is an interview with the creator of so called Penis Envy
it has a lot of info regarding genetics if you listen to all of it.
THANK YOU!
the one thing i don't like is the shout out to MushroomJohn(pedo)
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Re: PE just too big [Re: hOxt]
#27787939 - 05/22/22 09:36 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Just ran across this thread.....having had a similar experience with PE in the ultimate quest for the best genetic/yields etc.....the only true viable option in my experience is going back to spore....
My fruits began to get bigger and bigger through time...so unless you have an agar plate with a prior smaller pheno its difficult.
Unfortunately our mushies dont have a time machine like our computers....
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