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LSDChaos
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Re: Why aren't my tubs fruiting?! [Re: Pastywhyte]
#27756531 - 04/29/22 12:42 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: For example; dead dried out rubbery mycelium caused by poor conditions isn’t stroma, it’s dead dying rubbery mycelium caused by poor conditions. Personally I feel “stroma” is more of a reaction to bacteria and is at least somewhat genetically dependent. A person who was burnt in a fire isn’t the same as someone with a sunburn. Sunscreen isn’t a solution to a person who was burnt in a fire.
Stroma isn't linked to either contamination nor bacteria. The exact causes are as listed above (poor conditions), and is more common than you think with new growers. And his substrate doesn't look dead or dried out so that statement is rather irrelevant. Stroma just like mycelium has many different forms and affects all subs and species differently, doesn't mean you will have a nasty film over top. Sometimes you may just have a dry rubbery top which you think is just a super dry substrate.
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LSDChaos
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Re: Why aren't my tubs fruiting?! [Re: Cosmos112]
#27756542 - 04/29/22 12:54 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Cosmos112 said: Well damn,thanks Pasty for seperating good from bad information, I shouldn't believe ALL of the advice given, even though it's meant in a positive manner 😅 So messing up the mycelium due to my inexperienced handling of the tubs is really whats going on here and the solution would be a couple of things: Check for clean spawn, dont touch the tubs after spawning to bulk and follow trusted teks to a T 🙈
He actually gave you bad info... "I always directly fruit at spawning" never do this ever period. Fruit once cake/sub is fully colonized 10-15 days after spawning without opening tub. Second stroma is pretty common and you can google many variations of it. I personally don't ask questions n haven't since 2016 do to trolls... Only came back to make my last fake post of (Spikes) so I can make the post (Everything you know is wrong)... If you read my post of (Spikes on Top) you will see what I mean, ppl will say anything is bad when its not or provide info that's irrelevant.
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PBJ710
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Re: Why aren't my tubs fruiting?! [Re: LSDChaos]
#27756547 - 04/29/22 01:00 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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LSDChaos said: He actually gave you bad info... "I always directly fruit at spawning" never do this ever period. Fruit once cake/sub is fully colonized 10-15 days after spawning without opening tub. Second stroma is pretty common and you can google many variations of it. I personally don't ask questions n haven't since 2016 do to trolls... Only came back to make my last fake post of (Spikes) so I can make the post (Everything you know is wrong)... If you read my post of (Spikes on Top) you will see what I mean, ppl will say anything is bad when its not or provide info that's irrelevant.
LOL...I'm harvesting 14 days after spawning using the exact same conditions the entire time (aka fruiting conditions at spawn). You might want to give it a try before you blindly denounce it.
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Re: Why aren't my tubs fruiting?! [Re: PBJ710]
#27756558 - 04/29/22 01:07 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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LOL...I'm harvesting 14 days after spawning using the exact same conditions the entire time (aka fruiting conditions at spawn). You might want to give it a try before you blindly denounce it.
Well yes doing that, I keep everything at Fruiting temps through all stages. From the way I read his post I thought he was literally initiating fruiting at spawn.... So FAE, Misting etc.
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Re: Why aren't my tubs fruiting?! [Re: LSDChaos] 1
#27756567 - 04/29/22 01:18 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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You might want to check for updated versions of the teks you're following. Many of the things you're preaching are very outdated.
FAE at spawning has been the standard since I started lurking in 2018. You don't need to mist at all before first flush if your tubs are dialed in correctly. Trying to mist on a schedule is usually a plan for failure.
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BiggDaddyCane
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Re: Why aren't my tubs fruiting?! [Re: PBJ710]
#27756573 - 04/29/22 01:26 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Add a casing layer. Bubble wrap, look up bubble wrap casing layers then give it 2 weeks.
Never throw out a tub unless you see strong contamination. 
I've had some of horrible f**king tubs still fruit.
You have to give it time. It's like a baby.
Baby can be due in 9 months. But it will come out when its time.
Mushies 30 to 45 days. Weeks after full colonizing. Strains change fruiting times.
Be Patient.
Edited by BiggDaddyCane (04/29/22 01:27 PM)
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Why aren't my tubs fruiting?! [Re: LSDChaos] 1
#27756731 - 04/29/22 03:27 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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LSDChaos said:
LOL...I'm harvesting 14 days after spawning using the exact same conditions the entire time (aka fruiting conditions at spawn). You might want to give it a try before you blindly denounce it.
Well yes doing that, I keep everything at Fruiting temps through all stages. From the way I read his post I thought he was literally initiating fruiting at spawn.... So FAE, Misting etc.</font></font>
Well I don’t mist pre first flush very often but definitely introduce FAE right at spawning. The information you’re providing is very out of date, I suggest you get caught up before you try correcting people with good information.
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Cosmos112
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Would it help if I just added a layer of field capacity vermiculite over it? Just to give it some extra water for the lost time and water? Also I'm thinking about placing those subs in a 33qt ezdial tub,maybe it's too small in those 2 Liter boxes and the flipped lids dont allow for good enough fae,what do you guys think?
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Re: Why aren't my tubs fruiting?! *DELETED* [Re: Cosmos112]
#27758760 - 05/01/22 01:49 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Post deleted by SharaVabdas
Reason for deletion: Shroomery is full of bigots and I'm leaving.
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Cosmos112
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Re: Why aren't my tubs fruiting?! [Re: SharaVabdas]
#27772589 - 05/11/22 12:08 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quick update for anyone interested: I did as I said and put all of the 7 subs in a bigger monotub with holes in it,cased with verm and waited. It smelled very good and mushroomy, but sadly one of them subs started triching out on me so I tossed the whole thing a few days ago.
Moving on, I think I've got some really healthy spawn masters going,let's pray these guys will fruit in the future.
So far I want to thank everyone who replied 🙏♥️
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Why aren't my tubs fruiting?! [Re: Cosmos112]
#27772602 - 05/11/22 12:15 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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The spawn is 90% of the battle. Axenic spawn will forgive much.
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Cosmos112
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Re: Why aren't my tubs fruiting?! [Re: Pastywhyte]
#27772614 - 05/11/22 12:24 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Assuming I finally have contam free plates (rhizo and all) then yeah,things aren't looking too bad 🙈
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