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Offlinefr33dom
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false peyote or real (pic)
    #2774819 - 06/08/04 03:20 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

hi all i have recently buy a little cactus look like a peyote so ... can you give me the response if they are real or false peyote :smile: maybe its false because i really big peyote




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Re: false peyote or real (pic) [Re: fr33dom]
    #2774832 - 06/08/04 03:23 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Wow.. That thing is big..


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Re: false peyote or real (pic) [Re: fr33dom]
    #2775048 - 06/08/04 04:38 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

If you can touch it, its real.


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Re: false peyote or real (pic) [Re: HarveyWalbanger]
    #2775258 - 06/08/04 05:51 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

where did you find it?? that thing is sweet wether diffuas or williamisii. try www.nansnook.com


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Re: false peyote or real (pic) [Re: fr33dom]
    #2775363 - 06/08/04 06:41 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

wonder how old it is, that's pretty big


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Re: false peyote or real (pic) [Re: fr33dom]
    #2775743 - 06/08/04 09:13 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

i dont know how old have this true or false peyote and i found it in a flower shop (fleuriste ) .. so .. and the guys does not know the name of this cactus :wink: .. so i want to be sure if its a true or false peyote before to sell it :smile: but its really big ... maybe 10 centimeter diameter ... its so big :wink:


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Re: false peyote or real (pic) [Re: fr33dom]
    #2775858 - 06/08/04 09:54 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

perhaps if you took better pictures it would be easier...
it could be a _matucana spp_ or a lophophora diffusa (don't think so), but not an l. williamsii...
is it blooming or has recently bloomed? what are those hairs on its top?
looks cool anyways!


FH :sun:


Edited by felixhigh (06/08/04 10:00 PM)


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Re: false peyote or real (pic) [Re: felixhigh]
    #2776091 - 06/08/04 11:15 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Unless it's a Matucana madisoniorum with the spines pulled out then it's almost difinately a Lophophora; and not L. diffusa. The pictures are quite blurry, but assuming that it hasn't be made to look like a Lophophora spp. I would bet that it is a La Pa, from seed, 3-5 years old, and grown exclusively indoors. Local nursery find? That sticker with the UPC code doesn't have a name on it?


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Re: false peyote or real (pic) [Re: Schadenfreude]
    #2776131 - 06/08/04 11:28 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

i don't wanna be pessimist but..
are you sure?
http://inf4serv.rug.ac.be/~pcolpaer/beschrijvingen/Matucanamadisoniorum.html
nice avatar.


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Re: false peyote or real (pic) [Re: fr33dom]
    #2776176 - 06/08/04 11:43 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

ok im gonna wait the bloom or .. the spine go out .. if they not going out maybe its a peyote ...





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Re: false peyote or real (pic) [Re: fr33dom]
    #2776266 - 06/09/04 12:16 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

In retrospect, I guess it very well could be a Matucana madisoniorum that just grew that way; it certainly looks like it could be--more so than the typical williamsii. I just find it unlikely that a speciment that large would be entirely spineless. But, basically, the overall global shape, devoid of any tear-drob like recessions around the tufts, and unusually small tufts, not to mention the color, says to me... bets off, but wait until it flowers again to be sure, you may just get lucky yet.


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Re: false peyote or real (pic) [Re: Schadenfreude]
    #2776291 - 06/09/04 12:26 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I think it's Matucana madisoniorum with the spines pulled out too.


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Re: false peyote or real (pic) [Re: neuro]
    #2777264 - 06/09/04 09:54 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Definetly false


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Re: false peyote or real (pic) [Re: 7777]
    #2777277 - 06/09/04 10:01 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

not a lophophora. :frown:


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Re: false peyote or real (pic) [Re: fr33dom]
    #2777314 - 06/09/04 10:29 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Wow, thats absolutely horrible.


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Re: false peyote or real (pic) [Re: HarveyWalbanger]
    #2778032 - 06/09/04 03:36 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

That sucks.


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Re: false peyote or real (pic) [Re: whiterabbit13]
    #2779779 - 06/10/04 01:19 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

well he shoudl see scars from where the spines were pulle out. It dosent look that way. I vote real


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Re: false peyote or real (pic) [Re: whiterabbit13]
    #2779993 - 06/10/04 02:52 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

i would like to have a matucana madisonorum!


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Re: false peyote or real (pic) [Re: fr33dom]
    #2782066 - 06/10/04 04:13 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I grow peyotes, have a 6 year old specimen, and have seen lots of pictures. Unfortunately, it is definitely not a lophophora williamsii, but I do not know what it is.


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Re: false peyote or real (pic) [Re: Gr0wer]
    #2782166 - 06/10/04 04:32 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

>>well he shoudl see scars from where the spines were pulle out. It dosent look that way. I vote real

It's definitely not a lophophora, that' sfor sure. As for the scars, it's debatable, but the spines are growing out of aeroles and the aeroles are semi fluffy, i pulled a whole section of spines out of stenocereus just so i could repot it and there's no visible signs of damage other than missing spines.


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