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Re: Open Democracy [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2933206 - 07/27/04 03:21 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

I heard a rumour that hardly any of the senators who voted the patriot act through had actually read it. How can they be considered more informed than anybody?


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Re: Open Democracy [Re: GazzBut]
    #2933216 - 07/27/04 03:24 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

They are of course, idiots. It's just the average person is a bigger idiot.


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Re: Open Democracy [Re: GazzBut]
    #2933221 - 07/27/04 03:28 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

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I heard a rumour that hardly any of the senators who voted the patriot act through had actually read it. How can they be considered more informed than anybody?



Not a rumor, though the Kerry people love to ignore it.


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Re: Open Democracy [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2933234 - 07/27/04 03:30 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

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They are of course, idiots. It's just the average person is a bigger idiot.




Really? Prove it!


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Re: Open Democracy [Re: Ancalagon]
    #2933241 - 07/27/04 03:31 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

So do you agree some form of veto for the people would be a good thing? what are your thoughts?


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Re: Open Democracy [Re: GazzBut]
    #2933267 - 07/27/04 03:38 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

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GazzBut said:
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They are of course, idiots. It's just the average person is a bigger idiot. 




Really? Prove it!



Here you go....
Almost half of likely voters, 49 percent, favored Kerry and 47 percent supported Bush. The difference was well within the margin of error of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.. 


CNN says 49% of Americans are stupid enough to vote for Kerry. 49% is damn close to half, so that makes the average American very stupid.

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Re: Open Democracy [Re: GazzBut]
    #2933299 - 07/27/04 03:46 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

I think some form of veto for the people would be a GREAT thing.


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Re: Open Democracy [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2933307 - 07/27/04 03:48 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Wow! so 49% are plain stupid and 47% dont even have brains! what a sorry state of affairs!!  :grin:

I suppose the senate comes from the remaining 4%?!!


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Re: Open Democracy [Re: Ancalagon]
    #2935363 - 07/28/04 02:04 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

So do you agree that on some issues the people should have the final say on whether a bill is passed or rejected?


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