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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Brain Bulb]
    #27733258 - 04/13/22 05:45 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

That White99 is impressive @Doc.šŸ‘ŒšŸ¼


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Brain Bulb] * 2
    #27733347 - 04/13/22 07:14 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

If anyone remembers back last fall when I was having to deal with an atmospheric-river/big rain event, along with 30 to 40mph winds, when my plants were like 10 to 14 days from harvest on the early side...

...and I had to throw together a make-shit canopy over my plants consisting of reeds as supports and tarps and twine (and even the rain-fly canopy from my tent over one plant lol)...Here's a couple pics I never posted of that shit-show lol, I think this was taken the day the skies started to finally clear up.

...It looked so shabby and make-shift lol, and it was, but most of my plants remained totally dry while it was pouring rain on & off for several days along with gnarly winds. I had it all tethered/anchored down well but I was worried the winds were going to tear it all apart, it actually all held together. The plant towards the right side under the tent-canopy, I had the canopy wrapped around that plant entirely when it was raining. There were 5 plants under that brown tarp in the back there, all with a bunch of really fat chonky tops I was so worried about getting wet.









And many times I would ramble about how my yields of hash were always terrible for some reason (still not sure why)...well this time around I was finally scooping up multiple large scoops every time.









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Sup all.  Hope you guys have been well!



3 favs from the grow so far.

Jack Herer is getting sticky/stinky af:


Zkittles is starting to get some deep purple tones:


Banana OG is stacking up nicely. 


Still a ways to go.  Only at day 48.





Dang, nice looking sea of tops.


What is your grow set up like? And if you've already grown with that set up what is your harvest weight like?...or about how much do you expect to end up harvesting from that? I'm terrible at estimating weight lol.

My next time around will probably be an indoor grow about that size at the largest and in general I'd like to try a little indoor grow some day sometime down the road. I've only grown outdoors over the years so the indoor game is totally new to me.

Just curious what sort of set up you, or anyone else along that size, is working with.

I should start doing a bit of research now and paying more attention to what you indoor folks have going on.







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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: openmind]
    #27733438 - 04/13/22 08:14 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

You haven’t changed anything with the hash process?? That’s some serious hash scoops up there.

I remember you talking about the winds thrashing those bushes.
Lol your neighbors must’ve been like ā€œthis fucking guy, now the giant weed plants are gone and there’s a tent cityā€.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: openmind]
    #27733449 - 04/13/22 08:17 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

I definitely wouldn't go larger than 4x4. In a wall-to-wall 4x4 you can't reach the back foot so you either need access from 3 sides or just deal with not being able to reach all the way. For that reason I think 2x4 is the nicest size to work in. If you're not trying to maximize yield you could probably get a higher quality by leaving a 6 inch gap between the wall and your canopy. For example a 2x2 plant in a 3x3 tent would make it easier to manage the humidity, temp, airflow, pruning, ipm, etc.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Icon]
    #27733643 - 04/13/22 10:04 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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You haven’t changed anything with the hash process?? That’s some serious hash scoops up there.

I remember you talking about the winds thrashing those bushes.
Lol your neighbors must’ve been like ā€œthis fucking guy, now the giant weed plants are gone and there’s a tent cityā€.





:lol:

Yea I actually kinda had a similar thought lol, it did look like tent city/shanty town... that's funny.

I was also worried about the wind causing the tarps and colas to whip around & slam into each other, it did happen on a few tops a little bit but for the most part nothing was touched.



About the hash...I did keep the sugar leaf material in the freezer for at least over night if not a few days before washing in the ice water, which I have done before past years, but I know the previous time around there were a few runs I didn't freeze before washing, so perhaps that played a role.

And instead of letting the sugar leaf/small buds soak/hydrate for several minutes before stirring I started to stir/agitate the ice-water as soon it was all dumped into the buckets of ice water.

The material I was working with was also pretty frosted with trichomes, but I have ran equally resinous stuff in the past and barely scooped anything.

I did two washes, IIRC I did two 10 minute washes.


Some of the small buds that were in the mix with the sugar-leaf were still not touched on the insides though, even when broken up into marble sized pieces they were still untouched/dry and frosted on their inside after being washed for 20 minutes...so I'm sure if I went longer I could have got better yields but the chlorophyll was starting the break into the water and I could tell there were more plant fragments in the mix so I didn't go longer.

Next time around...I will be trying to do it fresh-frozen or at the very least running the material before it has dried and "tighten up". Putting the material in the freezer and washing it within a week after being harvested/hung up to dry. How buds are much "looser" when live/fresh compared to how they tighten up as they dry, that should allow them to open up/expose more surface area when being washed and should increase yield a bit more. All of the dried/cured buds I've used, even when broken into small pieces, they take forever to hydrate and loosen/open up to expose their insides. Also quality, I really want to try to capture the "live resin" via hashish.












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I definitely wouldn't go larger than 4x4. In a wall-to-wall 4x4 you can't reach the back foot so you either need access from 3 sides or just deal with not being able to reach all the way. For that reason I think 2x4 is the nicest size to work in. If you're not trying to maximize yield you could probably get a higher quality by leaving a 6 inch gap between the wall and your canopy. For example a 2x2 plant in a 3x3 tent would make it easier to manage the humidity, temp, airflow, pruning, ipm, etc.






:thumbup:

Yea 4x4 is the largest I had in mind as it was, even before considering those points you bring up.

Something like 2x4 is what I'll likely go with when it comes time.

What am I looking at for lights, for a space that size? I imagine there's lots of options, but curious about how much it'd take to cover a space that size and what you indoor folks are actually using or suggest.






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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Icon]
    #27733647 - 04/13/22 10:09 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

@Openmind

This is my first time running this setup and I’m planning on making some changes.  I’m running a 4x4 tent with the 2022 Spider Farmer SF-4000 light and 6ā€ AC Infinity in-line fan/filter.  7 plants in 5g fabric pots this run but it’s been a bitch to keep up with even having access to 3 sides of the tent so next run I will only have 4 plants but planning to veg longer.  18ā€ oscillating fan above the canopy and 10ā€ oscillating fan below.  Think that’s about it. 

Once I harvest I can let you know what my yield is, but I have no idea atm. 

Happy to help if I can but I’m still learning as well.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: openmind]
    #27733703 - 04/13/22 11:46 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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I definitely wouldn't go larger than 4x4. In a wall-to-wall 4x4 you can't reach the back foot so you either need access from 3 sides or just deal with not being able to reach all the way. For that reason I think 2x4 is the nicest size to work in. If you're not trying to maximize yield you could probably get a higher quality by leaving a 6 inch gap between the wall and your canopy. For example a 2x2 plant in a 3x3 tent would make it easier to manage the humidity, temp, airflow, pruning, ipm, etc.




:thumbup:

Yea 4x4 is the largest I had in mind as it was, even before considering those points you bring up.

Something like 2x4 is what I'll likely go with when it comes time.

What am I looking at for lights, for a space that size? I imagine there's lots of options, but curious about how much it'd take to cover a space that size and what you indoor folks are actually using or suggest.





2x4 would be easy to light. A lot of lights are designed to spotlight a 2x2 range so you could get two of those, or maybe three. It all depends on the light of course. More the merrier as long as you can keep it cool. Bar lights are popular in the 4 foot size so you could go that route too with a few bars the full length. Just make sure you get the exact dimensions of everything. 4x4 is often actually 44". Some 4' lights will fit, some won't.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Brain Bulb]
    #27733712 - 04/13/22 11:59 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

If you put a kiddie pool in your 4x4 you can use It like a lazy Susan and spin it around to access all your plants.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: openmind]
    #27733781 - 04/14/22 02:06 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Just dropping in to say 2x4 is my ideal tent as well.  I have worked side by side 2x2 one auto and vege, the other photoperiod flowering.  If I had the space I'd run a 2x4 flowering and a 2x3 vege/mom tent.  With LEDs, lower power, lower heat, smaller fans and filters these days I could do it for the same price as running a cab 11 years ago.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Mr Piggy] * 1
    #27733909 - 04/14/22 06:15 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

I like the 4x4 better than 2x4, but with a scrog I think 2x4 would be best.


I would rather have 2 electric sky v300 than my HLG 550 v2 rspec in the 4x4.
I have the one ESv300 in the 2x4. Its amazing.
The hlg 550 is amazing too but I just like the ES v300 better and think it would be better.
HlG550 real watts = 480 [in 4x4]
Esv300 real watts = 330 [in 2x4]

So 2 would be better huh.

Just off topic stuff


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Hobbit GDF]
    #27733919 - 04/14/22 06:22 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

BB, Where did you get the Banana OG seed? I wasn't impressed with the grows I did with it but mine was a popcorn strain. The buds weren't much bigger than in your pic at the end but it was good smoke.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Doc9151]
    #27733995 - 04/14/22 07:21 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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BB, Where did you get the Banana OG seed? I wasn't impressed with the grows I did with it but mine was a popcorn strain. The buds weren't much bigger than in your pic at the end but it was good smoke.




I remember you mentioning that.  I got these seeds at Growerschoiceseeds.com.  My other Banana OG in this run is a much smaller plant but the buds are starting to swell up nicely and they should be pretty dense.  I’ll snap a pic when my lights come back on.  It just doesn’t look as pretty bc I ended up having a Ca deficiency brought on by excess K.  At least that’s what I’m thinking it was.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Brain Bulb]
    #27733996 - 04/14/22 07:24 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Found this light in my attic.  Think it would help with larf if I put it under the canopy?  Kind of concerned that there’s not enough light penetration with my canopy being so dense.



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    #27734084 - 04/14/22 08:29 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Took down my second plant just now.
Double grape by Mephisto.

Even though I fucked up a few things and made her work for it she seems to have turned out pretty good. I think I will be going all in for this whole grow and freeze and wash it. Maybe I’ll keep the colas but Im worried I don’t have this dry and cure thing down. I’d rather get a little high quality bubble out of it then a bunch of over dried buds. 

Gonna have a beer and poke around in the tent with this loupe to see if any of the others are done. Then decide what to do. 



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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Bph] * 1
    #27734135 - 04/14/22 09:09 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Here’s the other Banana OG @Doc.  Gonna be small dense buds.  This plant kept stalling out so it’s only about 16ā€ tall where my second plant is 24ā€. 



Had some deficiencies with the Gelato but they’re starting to swell up nicely. 



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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Bph]
    #27734178 - 04/14/22 09:35 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Curing is simple… we just over complicate things sometimes.
Just hang dry your plant til the smaller stems snap instead of bend.. it should talk between 5-10 day most of the time. Jar them nuggets up when the moisture is still in em a bit to cure right, And start burping them.  I like lots of big glass containers to cure in(like ice tea jugs and whatnot) so you can leave branches intact then trim em whenever I get to em…

Hope I helped ease your mind some about curing. You will get a feel for it.. good luck bro


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Brain Bulb]
    #27734185 - 04/14/22 09:38 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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Found this light in my attic.  Think it would help with larf if I put it under the canopy?  Kind of concerned that there’s not enough light penetration with my canopy being so dense.






What spectrum does it put out?

I've supplemented light in grows by cutting the plastic bulb off of standard socket 13w led lights and exposing the LEDs, then you can wire up a series of sockets to a board or just stick desk lamps under the canopy and direct the light.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Mr Piggy]
    #27734186 - 04/14/22 09:39 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

The leaves on that banana OG are dummy thic.  Almost look succulent thick.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Brain Bulb]
    #27734204 - 04/14/22 09:56 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

BB, how far are you into flower? If you're around week 3-4, trim the big fans that are up high and point inward on the plant, that would make a big difference for the lower areas. 
Some of the leds I've seen are comparable to HPS in yield from what I have read, around 1g per watt. So I'm considering lining the bottom 2 ft of the grow space with leds,  only because I have plenty of MH & HPS lighting for main lights and am to cheap to replace something that aint broke, but want to maximize the plants potential. I was runninga 250w mh along with the 600w hps in flower andthey were lovingthe extra light and different light wave frequencies, but the MH light kept shutting down like it was getting to hot. I need to pull it out tonight and take it apart to see whats up, I did notice a big difference in the plants that were receiving light from both the MH and HPS lights together. They were growing bigger, faster and frostier imo, but I didn't get to run it long enough to really say whether or not its worth it. But it did look promising.

I would prefer outdoors but am scared of the air traffic around me from military, LEO and Civilian aircraft. We had an elderly couple raided over okra plants several years ago but that doesn't stop them from fukin with people still. Thisvis the first time I've grown this close to home in the open.


That's how I do my cure as well,  love the glass jars, unused quart grain jars are excellent for curing and has built in gas exchange.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Doc9151]
    #27734245 - 04/14/22 10:28 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

@Doc

Almost to day 50 and I’m anticipating 65-75 days in flower.  Possibly more for one of my Herer’s that stalled.  I’ve defoliated a few times but the fans keep coming back so it’s been an ongoing process.


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