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Offlinewild_aussie
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inocuole]
    #27728140 - 04/09/22 10:33 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Hey all I have a question I hope all your brain power combined will form CAPTAIN MYCOLOGY!!  Anyways, I'm growing a shoe box that has a solid colored lid the surface looks ready to fruit I think.  With bodi's easy af shoebox he wraps a grocery store bag over the top of the container with some holes in it.  Besides black and red(be ause of dye) what color should I use?  Got tan, grey, white house hich would work best I know some light needs to get through it but not for photosynthesis.  So what color to choose?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: wild_aussie]
    #27728143 - 04/09/22 10:38 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Any color is fine. Mine are grey. What's wrong with black or red lids?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inocuole]
    #27728200 - 04/09/22 11:35 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

I am sure the color matters to some degree. Since mushies benefit the most from blue light. So the thing that lets trough the most blue light should be best. So probably blue ? Or white since it's more of a full spectrum ? I don't know. But i think it's pretty agreed upon that light is overhyped and not that extremely important.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Dendrocopos] * 3
    #27728325 - 04/10/22 04:16 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Light is nessecary but not to the point that it's gonna matter what color of lid your tubs have. Leave the lid snapped shut and dub tub once pins come in.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Doctor Mario] * 1
    #27729441 - 04/10/22 07:54 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

I PCd some jars of millet yesterday expecting to inoculate them today but had a few things come up and now I won't be able to get to them until tomorrow, possibly even Tuesday afternoon. Should I re-sterilize them or am I getting worked up for no reason?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bigfootscreepyuncl] * 2
    #27729467 - 04/10/22 08:05 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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I PCd some jars of millet yesterday expecting to inoculate them today but had a few things come up and now I won't be able to get to them until tomorrow, possibly even Tuesday afternoon. Should I re-sterilize them or am I getting worked up for no reason?



I wouldn't worry about them.  Consider slow colonizing cultures.  They can sometimes take 2 months to fully colonize a jar.  The uncolonized parts of the jar don't go bad during that time.  A few days to a week is nothing.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bigfootscreepyuncl] * 1
    #27729472 - 04/10/22 08:06 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

I let my WBS jars sit for days after sterilizing them all the time. Seems to be ok in my experience.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: MysticMycologist]
    #27729508 - 04/10/22 08:37 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Thanks for the reassurance! I figured it wouldn't be an issue I just wanted to hear it from someone else lol. Now I'll make sure I have a proper amount of time for a SAB session to get these jars knocked up instead of rushing and/or forcing a session :thumbup:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bigfootscreepyuncl] * 1
    #27729543 - 04/10/22 09:15 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Sometimes, my grain sits around for a week before it gets inoculated.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Doctor Mario] * 2
    #27729587 - 04/10/22 10:00 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

I’ve gone a month or more

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bigfootscreepyuncl]
    #27729598 - 04/10/22 10:15 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Obviously optimally you want to use it within a few days but I bet you could let them sit for a month if it was properly sterilized with zero detectable difference!

However I do recommend you use them as quick as possible but a few days is 100% ok!!!


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bigfootscreepyuncl]
    #27729633 - 04/10/22 11:08 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

I've unfortunately had them go bad after a few weeks. So... What I do is toss them in the fridge if I can't get to them immediately. I don't know if it helps much the way I'm hoping, But I've not had one go bad since.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: MTZ] * 5
    #27729635 - 04/10/22 11:09 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

No point in tossing jars in the fridge, if you're getting contaminated jars before inoculation then you have issues with your pc cycle.
Jars/bags can be left for months after being pc'd

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: DERRAYLD] * 1
    #27729650 - 04/10/22 11:22 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

I second that notion. If they are sterile, there should be nothing in the grains that could make them go bad. They could dry out through the filter maybe. If they spoil that fast or at all, they were not sterilized.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #27729652 - 04/10/22 11:25 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

I already thirded it but absolutely they should never really contaminate in theory but practically a few years?

Although I bet there would be fermentation albeit slowly due to lack of yeast but none the less it wouldn't be very effective for spawn use anymore I believe?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: WhiteThumbScience]
    #27729655 - 04/10/22 11:31 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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I already thirded it but absolutely they should never really contaminate in theory but practically a few years?



After a few years endospores would have germinated and contaminated them.  Here's what happened to 21 untouched agar plates over 1.5 years.  Approximately 15% of them survived contam-free.  The rest were taken out by endospores.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24453422#24453422


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Elf_on_a_Log]
    #27729660 - 04/10/22 11:39 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Thats true idk I never even gave thought to how long I could keep my spawn for lol!

Im surprised 15% survived now that I think about it because no matter how little endospores there are without other competing eubacteria besides other endospores which likely will not germinate at the same time it would eventually thrive I believe as long as some endospores survive! From my understanding they always in some number survive whether thats below a threshold for contamination events or not?

Thank you for showing me that because now I am off on another research project!


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Elf_on_a_Log]
    #27729663 - 04/10/22 11:45 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Just realized it was your post lol. Well your also sure I am assuming that they were prepared properly obviously you seem intelligent enough to handle that so. Hmmm I mean makes sense that some survive but it is a discrete system so its possible I think to get the distribution curve down so low that in a continuous field of numbers it could never be actually zero but in discrete systems zero absolutely can be reached and at some temperature it would not only approach zero but actually be zero. Might be carbon ash but lol!


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: WhiteThumbScience]
    #27729675 - 04/11/22 12:05 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

That batch of plates was cooked for 45 minutes at 15psi.  The foil was never removed and they were placed in ziplock bags straight out of the pc.  It was an interesting and informative unintentional experiment.  I'd kind of like to do it again on a larger scale with holy-grail-of-no-pour plates and take pictures periodically.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Elf_on_a_Log]
    #27729677 - 04/11/22 12:12 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Is their a way I can bury my used cakes, pour some substrate on, and get outdoor shrooms? I’ve got like 20 lb of leftover substrate and I heard this would work years ago.


Anywhere I can read about this on here? Links?

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