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laughingdog
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Language of fungi---electrical spiking activity 2
#27725360 - 04/08/22 07:56 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Language of fungi derived from electrical spiking activity Andrew Adamatzky Unconventional Computing Laboratory, UWE, Bristol, UK
Abstract Fungi exhibit oscillations of extracellular electrical potential recorded via dif- ferential electrodes inserted into a substrate colonised by mycelium or directly into sporocarps. We analysed electrical activity of ghost fungi (Omphalotus ni- diformis), Enoki fungi (Flammulina velutipes), split gill fungi (Schizophyllum commune) and caterpillar fungi (Cordyceps militari). The spiking characteris- tics are species specific: a spike duration varies from one to 21 hours and an amplitude from 0.03 mV to 2.1mV. We found that spikes are often clustered into trains. Assuming that spikes of electrical activity are used by fungi to com- municate and process information in mycelium networks, we group spikes into words and provide a linguistic and information complexity analysis of the fun- gal spiking activity. We demonstrate that distributions of fungal word lengths match that of human languages. We also construct algorithmic and Liz-Zempel complexity hierarchies of fungal sentences and show that species S. commune generate most complex sentences. Keywords: fungi, electrical activity, spikes
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2112.09907.pdf
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psyder
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Re: Language of fungi---electrical spiking activity [Re: laughingdog] 1
#27731068 - 04/12/22 06:30 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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wow, nice work, it amazes me how authors are dead cold about decoding the language of fungi, like it's ordinary everyday work
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Psilimax
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Re: Language of fungi---electrical spiking activity [Re: psyder] 1
#27744357 - 04/20/22 09:00 PM (2 years, 29 days ago) |
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When I told people the mushrooms were talking they said I was crazy now I am vindicated and I listen closer to nature when she speaks
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Re: Language of fungi---electrical spiking activity [Re: Psilimax] 1
#27744446 - 04/20/22 10:24 PM (2 years, 28 days ago) |
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That paper makes some awfully big assumptions and then appears to extrapolate out wildly from there. Equating simple electrical spikes to not just a spoken language but even further still to characters in a single written language out of 7k+, is not only a huge jump, but in the process it ignores the more likely physiological explanations such as growth patterns, movement, or the utilization of nutrients.
“Propagating mycelium tips are electrically charged and, therefore, when the charged tips pass in a pair of differential electrodes, a spike in the potential difference is recorded,”
“this new paper detects rhythmic patterns in electric signals, of a similar frequency as the nutrient pulses we found,” Both from here.
Electrical signals and their physiological significance in plants
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TheConfluence
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Re: Language of fungi---electrical spiking activity [Re: psyder] 1
#27747938 - 04/23/22 10:23 AM (2 years, 26 days ago) |
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Quote:
psyder said: wow, nice work, it amazes me how authors are dead cold about decoding the language of fungi, like it's ordinary everyday work
The scientific method is a silly thing.
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