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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Bph]
    #27724950 - 04/07/22 07:40 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

I grow my own meds and switched to plastic pots yrs ago, because bugs don’t live on them , and they pretty much last forever! I get same or better yields compared to fabric pot craze :jah:


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: rhizoRider] * 3
    #27724996 - 04/07/22 08:14 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

So here's day 44 from flip,on 11s for last two weeks,first ones are Zany Brain from a buddy and some of his other gear,then some Zamaldelica started on 12s,coming along alright.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: HFM]
    #27725005 - 04/07/22 08:19 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Those are some monster tops.


How old are the zamaldelica? Prob popping a couple of those shortly here. I’ve been debating doing 12/12 from seed or giving it a few weeks first.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: A.k.a]
    #27725050 - 04/07/22 08:54 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Yeah :smile:.The zamal is at 30-34 days from pop,they also switched to 11s last 2 weeks.They don't really need a veg.In f2 also,so you'll get the full range of what's there.The tallest 2 zamal are @32" and the shortest @24".In 1gal.They don't like light change to much,and run better with short differences.Should be rad though,it's one of my favorites.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: A.k.a]
    #27725056 - 04/07/22 09:00 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

HFM THAT LOOKS SWEET AF!!! My next run will probably include Strawnana, sounds good, but never seen it before myself. I have 5 seeds so something should come of them, the Jillybean is one that will definitely be around for a while, even the big fan leaves have trichomes that look like white crystals forming.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Doc9151]
    #27725163 - 04/08/22 12:34 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Thanks Doc :smile:.Oh man,yeah that sounds tasty for sure!I've never ran Jilly bean,but had always heard good things :wink:.Hope it works well for you.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: HFM] * 2
    #27725452 - 04/08/22 09:33 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

HFM looking proper!
Nice looking plants and room.


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im an idiot and trimmed quite a few fan leaves at the beginning of veg right after transplanting to coir.

How badly did I fuck up? Any advice? I guess it will just slow shit down




You can deleaf in veg, usually only necessary if its not getting proper air flow though. You can really only fuck up the plant if you do something that stunts them in bloom.



Mykos, myco jordan, great white?
Nah fermented grain...









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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: 420rydaz69me] * 1
    #27725518 - 04/08/22 10:32 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

I'd be worried if my media looked like that


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: LotKid] * 1
    #27725593 - 04/08/22 11:45 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

When you top dress with grains this is what happens, if you have a layer of duff it'll fuse leaves, stems and others together in a mycelia mat. I'll try n remember to take a photo, I've had it almost an inch thick on big beds. Plants are happy and number check out.

The fermented grain also consisted of fish protein, and molasses.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: 420rydaz69me]
    #27725637 - 04/08/22 12:27 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

I just bottled up some SST that I fermented. I used rye and millet.
I like doing this fermenting.
So far I've made
Lacto bac, fish hydrolysate, grow nutes, bloom nutes, cal-phos.
It's fun and easy.😉


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Doc9151] * 3
    #27725789 - 04/08/22 02:37 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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im an idiot and trimmed quite a few fan leaves at the beginning of veg right after transplanting to coir.

How badly did I fuck up? Any advice? I guess it will just slow shit down



Vegis ok to be a little heavy handed, it's in flower that you have to be careful.


Has anyone used these products before? Feedback is much appreciated!






Sure I'll take a jab.

I've used promix HP as a base in a living soil mix before and I liked it a lot.  I also used high P guano in that mix and I am a big fan of guano.  The guano is awful hot though and a mix would need some time to cook off (6-8 weeks) before I'd plant in it.  I don't know if you mix living soils, but I could try to dig up some recipes if you don't.  I used to have a mix that I kept remixing with amendments and worm castings after each round until I got it to the point where it was water only.  This sweet sweet sticky auto came out of that:


I have no experience using the pro mix HP as a stand alone, but it functions as a soiless medium, yeah?  That's not my jam so I wouldn't know how to use it that way.

As for the marb lights, I used to steal loosies from my step dad about 25 years ago before running off to highschool.  I honestly didn't like the taste of them and they didn't get me through half a day.  I also forgot to coordinate with my step brother so we got busted after step dad's supply dropped too fast.  I took the heat for it, I was trying to be a good step sibling after being raised an only child.

I don't know anything about the "root stimulator" but I try to stick to the basics and not push the plants to go "faster bigger."  You do you.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: 420rydaz69me]
    #27725792 - 04/08/22 02:40 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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When you top dress with grains this is what happens, if you have a layer of duff it'll fuse leaves, stems and others together in a mycelia mat. I'll try n remember to take a photo, I've had it almost an inch thick on big beds. Plants are happy and number check out.

The fermented grain also consisted of fish protein, and molasses.





Your benefits are probably just coming from the fish protein and molasses.  Mycelial mats alone are not necessarily beneficial to a grow.  Mycorrhizal fungi work with the plants directly to improve uptake and tolerances.

But if it works for you keep doing it.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Hobbit GDF]
    #27725795 - 04/08/22 02:41 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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I just bottled up some SST that I fermented. I used rye and millet.
I like doing this fermenting.
So far I've made
Lacto bac, fish hydrolysate, grow nutes, bloom nutes, cal-phos.
It's fun and easy.😉




Can you elaborate on the fish hydrolysate?  I fish often enough to have leftover carcasses and have always wondered about that.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: 420rydaz69me]
    #27725840 - 04/08/22 03:05 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Thanks :smile: I get mats similar to that with malted grains and leaf mulches. :wink:


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Mr Piggy] * 3
    #27725860 - 04/08/22 03:14 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Here is link to help with fish fertilizer
https://www.unconventionalfarmsupply.com/homemade-fish-fertilizer

Here is the crude fuel, 2x LCxCN, & tatooine donut

The tatooine donut is only one weighed @ 4oz
The wedding cheesecake auto was 3-4oz
Crude fuel 2-3oz

The LCxCN are not fully dry.


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Huckmonkey, tatooine donut f1, & tatooine donut F1


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Hobbit GDF]
    #27725873 - 04/08/22 03:19 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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Your benefits are probably just coming from the fish protein and molasses.  Mycelial mats alone are not necessarily beneficial to a grow.  Mycorrhizal fungi work with the plants directly to improve uptake and tolerances.

But if it works for you keep doing it.





A mycelia mat being visible is showing the presence throughout your soil, and helping break down the duff layer on the soil to be easily accessible by worms and lil buggies. If you're seeing a 1/2 inch thick mat on top you can say your fungal network and plant roots are living happily together. Any one ingredient might not be beneficial but its more the whole of it together in the living soil. I've added lots of pleurotus genus to the living beds to help build ups in from happening in the soil. If you're adding crab meal, guano, and some minerals to soil you can get a build up over time, and without testing you wouldn't be aware of that, not even by smoking it, so by adding mycelium to bioremediate it instead and keeping track of that, you can continue pushing out quality flower and keep using the soil instead of replacing it.


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I just bottled up some SST that I fermented. I used rye and millet.
I like doing this fermenting.
So far I've made
Lacto bac, fish hydrolysate, grow nutes, bloom nutes, cal-phos.
It's fun and easy.��





Haven't tried an sst yet, i should, have like 30lbs of various cover crop. Sprouted millet is supposed to be insanely nutritious for the human body too.
Starting an aloe ferment next week.



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Thanks :smile: I get mats similar to that with malted grains and leaf mulches. :wink:





Tight! Yeeea that malted barley!
I also get it with rice too.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: 420rydaz69me]
    #27726090 - 04/08/22 06:20 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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A mycelia mat being visible is showing the presence throughout your soil, and helping break down the duff layer on the soil to be easily accessible by worms and lil buggies. If you're seeing a 1/2 inch thick mat on top you can say your fungal network and plant roots are living happily together. Any one ingredient might not be beneficial but its more the whole of it together in the living soil. I've added lots of pleurotus genus to the living beds to help build ups in from happening in the soil. If you're adding crab meal, guano, and some minerals to soil you can get a build up over time, and without testing you wouldn't be aware of that, not even by smoking it, so by adding mycelium to bioremediate it instead and keeping track of that, you can continue pushing out quality flower and keep using the soil instead of replacing it.






How do you know your roots are living happily with it?  Have you run a comparison side by side, one with and one without? 

I prefer not to have insects in my soil.  My inside soil stays inside and my outside soil stays outside.  Since I've enacted this strict policy I have not had to deal with spider mites.  I'm not saying your insects are spider mites, I get what you mean, I'm just saying I mix my soil inside to avoid exposure. 

Build up has never been a problem for me.  The plants will tell me If I missed something in mixing and I can remediate with teas. I'd prefer not to lose nutrients and substrate material to voracious myc like oysters.  I'm happy this works for you, but I admit I do not see the benefit in the end.  I do not have to replace my soil and it confuses me why you would have to replace yours if you don't use oyster myc.

Can you tell me more about your soil method?  I just dropped in after being gone for a long time and may have missed it.  If you've already gone over it, just let me know if it's a few pages back.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Mr Piggy] * 1
    #27727292 - 04/09/22 12:40 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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How do you know your roots are living happily with it?  Have you run a comparison side by side, one with and one without? 





I mean idk dude I'm not a scientist, realistically I'm not even that smart. I've just grown cannabis for awhile, and this is where I'm at and its currently the best stuff I've ever pushed out at the cheapest investment/and least effort put in. I'm assuming if you have visible mycelium on top of your soil why wouldn't it be present in the soil working with the roots?
Right or am I wrong?
Also it helps break things down faster than having to buy bokashi?
Right or am i wrong that mycelium engulfing a top layer or leaves and sticks isn't doing anything beneficial and making it more bioavailable for the plants, worms, pollies, beetles?



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I prefer not to have insects in my soil.  My inside soil stays inside and my outside soil stays outside.  Since I've enacted this strict policy I have not had to deal with spider mites.  I'm not saying your insects are spider mites, I get what you mean, I'm just saying I mix my soil inside to avoid exposure.






Personally I don't see a benefit of not having worms or beneficial insects, besides build ups. Worms break things down to be more bioavailabile to plant allowing quicker up take, even feeding your worm farm pure powdered nutrients and collecting the castings is better than putting the pure nutrient powders into the soil, especially with no bugs in them.



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Build up has never been a problem for me.  The plants will tell me If I missed something in mixing and I can remediate with teas. I'd prefer not to lose nutrients and substrate material to voracious myc like oysters.  I'm happy this works for you, but I admit I do not see the benefit in the end.  I do not have to replace my soil and it confuses me why you would have to replace yours if you don't use oyster myc.





Whens the last time you tested your soil? Do you do get one after each run? Do you test you flower to see if it has build ups in it? Plants can't tell you about small build ups unless you get them tested. The first time i tested my soil after growing for years in with happy plants showing no signs of over feeding or deficiencies it came back 34% over the regular levels of organic matter, which yuh that's not a big deal you want high organic matter when growing such vigorous plants, but if i would've kept amending according to my schedule then I'm wasting money on nutrients. You can't remediate with only teas even various pleurotus spieces aren't going to do a complete job, its just about trying to balance it all and replicate nature the best you can. Using minerals, guano, humics, other nutrients leave unwanted byproducts in your soil, without testing you're not going to be able to see, taste in the smoke or notice heavy metals. Ppl drink contaminated water with heavy metals all the time and don't know they're building up unsafe levels in their body, until they get blood tests. You'd be lucky to get by 2yrs in the same soil without it getting to an unsafe level, or you can push out wack flower(that still smokes fine) instead of medicine. This is why states do testing. There's no room in this game for mediocre flower anymore, theres already enough dumbasses pushing it onto the scene. Ppl need to keep their garbage to their own trash can.



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Can you tell me more about your soil method?  I just dropped in after being gone for a long time and may have missed it.  If you've already gone over it, just let me know if it's a few pages back.





My method is trying new things and getting it tested, i follow tons of recipes for super soil/living soil, my own learning curve, cutting out things i dont find necessary/or are wasteful and supportive of shitty industries, nearly a decade of growing in living soil, advice from various friends who also grow in living soil, and endless reading on subjects i think might be beneficial to add in to the mix. Growing like this has improved my vegetable garden, enriched ppl around me that i know, and my knowledge of dealing with contaminated soils outdoors and how to improve them through bioremediation, I wouldn't be going thru this trouble if we we're doing it in the community and its showing signs of improvement each season.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: 420rydaz69me] * 4
    #27728508 - 04/10/22 09:12 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Here are the pretty huckmonkey buds.


Very impressed with this strain. So far I give it 5 stars.
Easy to grow, great node distance, beautiful colors, seems to be light feeder, sweet smells.
It's good all the way around right now.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Hobbit GDF] * 3
    #27728533 - 04/10/22 09:27 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Nice that’s already pretty frosty.

I’m excited for mine, just starting to get pistils I hope I get that purple going on. I love how it starts changing from the inside of the leaves.


Just flipped mugato also. It didn’t want to get big at all. it’s very compact reminds me of the strawberry pie auto.





It’s officially been over a year of nonstop growing now too. That went by so fast.


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