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Re: Democracy is an illusion and the media is NOT LIBERAL. [Re: ]
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Ive already provided evidence of this before. Can you not even remember the conversations you have been involved in?

Saddam didnt even join the baath party officially until 57.. he and a group tried to kill Quassim. ( he botched it there are UPI articles all over the place about this).. but this was sponsered by the CIA, they also made sure he didnt get his ass killed when the hit went wrong. They sheltered him and trained him in Cairo and Syria for 4 years. The man did not even have a highschool diploma, he was no more then a tony montana of iraqi baathist.. but the US educated him. And through the alliance the weapons flowed for the death of Quassim after which Saddam returned and went up the ranks..

The US took Saddam to the sidelines, under their wing. Just like Bin Laden, they educated him. If it was not for the CIA, he would not have had the support, the weapons or the alliances to push out Bakr. They were PIVIOTAL in his rise, the Baathists had chose their leader already, hell Saddam was jailed by the Baathists at various times.

You can live in your illusion that the CIA support and gifts did nothing for Saddam's rise. But Im tired of revisiting the same ole shit.


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Re: Democracy is an illusion and the media is NOT LIBERAL. [Re: PsiloKitten]
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i don't remember talking about any of this with you before. all of what you just said is news to me. where's you get that info?

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Re: Democracy is an illusion and the media is NOT LIBERAL. [Re: ]
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There are several articles about this published by the UPI

http://www.upi.com/history.htm

You should read the history of this media think tank.

http://www.rise4news.net/Saddam-CIA.html
This is a site that had the time to type one of these articles up or copy and paste it while it was still active. I dont know what the site is, what it is about.. what it's thoughts are. All I care about is the fact that it was the fastest article I could find, since I have already read it.

Oh, it was findable on a search engine. On the first page, nonetheless.


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Re: Democracy is an illusion and the media is NOT LIBERAL. [Re: lysergic]
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Quote:
Since the liberals hate America,



AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAH

it's too sad for me to confront the reality that there are people in this country or even the world who have minds that work this simply, so instead of crying I'm just going to laugh it up because your entire mentality and concept of the world is so fucking small, there are probably 11 year olds out there with a more mature and sensical view of the world.

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Re: Democracy is an illusion and the media is NOT LIBERAL. [Re: ]
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DOOOOOOO

I must be a liberal if I just said that!!!

Right?

If I don't agree with the trash you spout, I have to be a liberal, because otherwise your entire view of the world would crumble.

Except I'm not!

I realize that to someone like you, that makes about as much sense as 2+2 = 5, but that's the way it is.

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Re: Democracy is an illusion and the media is NOT LIBERAL. [Re: PsiloKitten]
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The big picture is for observing, discussing, analyzing, things like that. I have little faith in linear approaches to "fixing" its problems. For me it's best kept in the peripherals while I focus on what is real to me--family, communities, relatively narrow-focussed domains. I can't say this should be a universal belief, but it's what is preventing me, with my exceptional swordsmanship and basic understanding of munitions, from enlisting in your army.

In Distrust of Movements

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Re: Democracy is an illusion and the media is NOT LIBERAL. [Re: hongomon]
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Damnit, and I really needed a ninja swordsman and a munitions expert.

Fuck a duck.

Maybe I can outsource the revolution.

But really, I agree with your idea about movements.

That's why I dont want to start a movement, I want to start a LLC and then Incorporate. Ill have to sit down and explain the whole thing some time.


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Re: Democracy is an illusion and the media is NOT LIBERAL. [Re: PsiloKitten]
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PsiloKitten,

The links you posted were interesting.

-J


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There he goes, one of God's own prototypes--some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too wierd to live, too rare to die.

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Re: Democracy is an illusion and the media is NOT LIBERAL. [Re: havatampa]
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Well. The stuff you are talking about is called oligarchy. It means a small group of people, yada, yada, yada.

The one who owns media, ownd a public opinion. Public opinion is misinterpreted as a public interest. Chomsky wrote a good part about Vietnam and two sides that where in the media. It is a clasical trick. You make two sides, all other sides are irelevant for the media, and all the public is taking a side. Others who do not do that shit, have no chance to be heard. Eventulally, they get a tard nick. And the public never gets the real thing.

And the stuff that is not in media is politically irelevant. Cause you have no chance to know what other people know. Maybe a couple of your frineds. But who are they? They are not majority. Majority is what media says majoritiy is. And the most funny stuff is cause it becomes majority. Because of the sheep state. Its a solid state, btw :laugh:.

Anyway, those who believe that they do decidion by voting, have to know that decidion making means need for being informed. That is imposible, cause media have the monopoly over information.

Second thing, those who think they are infromed, think again. What do you REALLY know? Why do you REALLY vote for those you vote for? Do you know what are the REAL problems of your nation?

Third thing. Even if you where informed, democracy means active principle of underastanding politics. Means you are political subject, not object. How many you do you feel that way? Anyway, political subject wont vote for less bad. The subject will vote for his own interest. Nobodies else.

All in all, we are going toward democracy. Every regime we pass, we are closer and closer. In the moment we get the REAL democracy, we will open the gate of the new era. 

Edited by Crobih (10/15/03 04:35 PM)

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Re: Democracy is an illusion and the media is NOT LIBERAL. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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Trying to get ten posts. How bout them cowboys


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