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Re: What happens when you die? [Re: Kickle]
#27717738 - 04/02/22 10:30 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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she's got a deal with the designer now.
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Re: What happens when you die? [Re: Kickle]
#27718846 - 04/02/22 11:33 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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You just shrink into the mind and realise you were dreaming on that level, now you're dreaming on this level, and the room is markedly rearranged, or wherever you leave yourself...
There's nothing significant about dying in a cosmic sense. Maybe your non-spiritual, unenlightened family will suffer "loss" due to a misunderstanding.
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anyone ever been in a coma before?
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Re: What happens when you die? [Re: sudly] 1
#27719024 - 04/03/22 06:46 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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There's this theory called 'Quantum Immortality'. It states that consciousness facing a life or death event, will always follow the reality where it is alive. Each person is living in there own bubble universe where they cannot die... some of my own near-death experiences has led me to consider it.. it's kind of terrifying to think about.
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Re: What happens when you die? [Re: hTx] 2
#27719090 - 04/03/22 08:07 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Comas are only slightly different from full normal waking consciousness. It's kind of preposterous but it's true. You can't do maths or science, but it's effectively the same, with a slight sense of being stuck but not being sure you're stuck. Consciousness is eternal and untouchable, but cognition is completely fuckable. From experience!
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Re: What happens when you die? [Re: hTx]
#27719197 - 04/03/22 10:05 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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hTx said: There's this theory called 'Quantum Immortality'. It states that consciousness facing a life or death event, will always follow the reality where it is alive. Each person is living in there own bubble universe where they cannot die... some of my own near-death experiences has led me to consider it.. it's kind of terrifying to think about.
Can you draw a distinction between quantum immortality and quantum suicide?
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psilocybinmansions said:
Comas are only slightly different from full normal waking consciousness. It's kind of preposterous but it's true. You can't do maths or science, but it's effectively the same, with a slight sense of being stuck but not being sure you're stuck. Consciousness is eternal and untouchable, but cognition is completely fuckable. From experience!
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Re: What happens when you die? [Re: sudly]
#27720012 - 04/03/22 08:14 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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you are half invisible. you have a spirit body. its psionic. some spirits fall to the core of the earth. hell is a verifiable location hidden in the earth. the sun is habitable. there are lots of oobe dream body magics, light body, soul, ego, mind, ghoulish, ashes, tree hosts, make sure you are cremated instead of buried. when you die will you rise or will you fall, or will you wander the earth? god has such amazing powers. the suns core is 75 degrees and liquid ecstasy. a summer breeze for giants. and sprites/cortex fairies. cash rules everything around me, cream get the money dollar dollar bill yo. have you ever done cathinones/phenylthyalamines/methamphetamine? what about morphinan? newports cigarettes? all three at once and a beer the next day during the opiate afterglow? i like anal heterosexual marriage sex, and cunnilingus. i AM nothair racist. thats how i want to die. licking pussy and butt sex raw with a pretty young fat pussied giant turkish girl. forever until we ignite as one and shoot across the aeons to return to the center sun, adam, to orbit as enders game pilots in cocoon black flame dream ships infinity feet in depth adelphic . birdmanc in the house. 11 birdmen in a perfect circle the army of the twelve monkeys. with or without you. stay high. one love. c.
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Re: What happens when you die? [Re: John]
#27720039 - 04/03/22 08:31 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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John said: ???
Just wondering what some of you guys think, ... just go on a understanding or gut feeling you have, just a general idea of what you think ...
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I think this is a decent representation of your verbal comments.
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Re: What happens when you die? [Re: sudly]
#27720124 - 04/03/22 09:34 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Electricity and light move faster than everything else--- we're always living the consequences of our actions. I read reports of suicide survivors gunshot directly to the brain "my heart isn't beating ... my brain is gone... i'm still here.. .oh god" you tell me mother fucker
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Re: What happens when you die? [Re: kreg]
#27720441 - 04/04/22 05:26 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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hell of a thing to have to live with a brain all shot up, but I would like to study the paths of those bullets.
I'm guessing it mostly just went through some cortex and left the thalamus and at least one side of hippocampus and amygdala intact, spraying few skull fragments - leave that body to science would ya?!!
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I wish, RGV. I saw one where this guys top half of his head was completely gone, no brain there, just a jaw and a tongue. He was strapped to a hospital bed moving around reaching upwards.. not like nerves kicking, like sentiently reaching up as if his brain was still there
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Re: What happens when you die? [Re: kreg]
#27720612 - 04/04/22 09:37 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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My point being I think it's safe to assume that even when every particle in your body has been ripped apart and no longer exists, like even if you died in a nuclear explosion: the light and electricity in your brain will remain for just a wee moment after "you" are physically non existent. Do you feel your thoughts? Light and electricity passing through your brain, whats the speed of light again I forgot
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Re: What happens when you die? [Re: kreg]
#27720622 - 04/04/22 09:47 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Yes, it could well be that there is an experience between disintegration and reintegration. But it's hard to say in any meaningful way what that would be as none of the same perceptual channels would exist.
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Re: What happens when you die? [Re: kreg]
#27720629 - 04/04/22 10:02 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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kreg said: My point being I think it's safe to assume that even when every particle in your body has been ripped apart and no longer exists, like even if you died in a nuclear explosion: the light and electricity in your brain will remain for just a wee moment after "you" are physically non existent. Do you feel your thoughts? Light and electricity passing through your brain, whats the speed of light again I forgot
speed of light, c'mon 186Kmiles per second, everyone knows that right (8 minutes from the sun).
otherwise, yes you can feel your thoughts if you are not blocking that off. without a thalamus there is nothing to power a perceptive reflex, so if that central part of the brain is gone, even if you still have residual electric fields in the cortex there is no possible awareness of their relation to anything, no sense of self or thing of any kind flickering. I doubt that the last 1/4 second glow would qualify as any form of spiritual experience. life is finite-finished.
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sigh yeah and DMT trips being the infinite visual complexity feeling like forever all under 10 minutes that doesn't happen to anyone, doesnt exist. Fiction that I just made up, yep.
* time doesn't care about your perception of it. Rocks and sand "inanimate" things they "cant" perceive time yet here they are with us, inside of time. You are clinging on to the egos definition of life/reality/the universe and well like duh you have nothing else to cling on to none of us do that's what i've been trying to say is that this is it there is no "other side" or other universes and even if there was its connected to this one theyre the same thing. Everything is a part of something inside of something even in multiverse theory all those different universes are within one whole "multiverse". You want to talk about brain activity and our perception as if its the container of the universe as if the brain is GOd or something, the universe will keep existing even if you remove your own head 100%, your body will still exist, the cells within you will still be alive until the decompose and die with you.
I don't have a more clear cut citation for you because hello there isn't one, we're in the territory of asking to define what the afterlife is absolutely no one can give a concrete answer to that so please Christ don't ask me too either thanks
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Re: What happens when you die? [Re: kreg]
#27720656 - 04/04/22 10:22 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Just because we can't understand it doesn't mean it isn't happening, it won't go away or get better or worse even if you do understand it. There is no bargaining with the universe on this one- Your life, everyones life- the universe is going to do it with or without you. "Like it or not" there is no looking at it differently or no looking at it at all. This is it, we are all here right now life and death are the same thing
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Re: What happens when you die? [Re: kreg]
#27720660 - 04/04/22 10:26 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Huh? I think the argument is that no one knows what's going on. But all signs point to everything that contributes to the sense of "me" is well and gone. Most of our fears and comforts stem from this identity (me) experiencing something one way or another.
DMT takes chemical reaction. Unfortunately that is quite a bit slower than light.
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