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Lemon Tek Questions * 2
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Hey all! I'm about to dive back into the alien worlds of the mush, getting back on the horse after my intense 5gram APE Xmas trip, this time going with a simple 3.5gram dose to not completely dissolve every atom of my body into my blankets this time around lol.
Anywho, one issue I've faced as a psychonaut is my extreamly weak stomach and the fact that I've never had a single shroom trip that didnt involve puking and nausea throughout the entire trip.
Not with tea, not with fasting, nothing works. I'm always plagued by it and infact it's something I'm more worried about nausea than difficult trips or hellish realms. So I've been doing some reading on lemon tek and wanna give it a shot but I wanted to ask from specifically people who have already tried this method how well it works.
I've read a variety of different reports and answers that range from "half your dose" to "make sure to drink the sludge" to "20mins is way too long to let it sit and destroys actives" blah blah.
Can anyone let me know how well it works for you?

My biggest question is can I use an emptied tea bag to put the powdered mushrooms in for the soak and remove the material or do I need to still actually eat/drink the mushroom powder? Does it work the same as tea in the way of actually extracting actives into the lemon juice or does it just help break down the cell walls before consumption?
Also wondering how long yall recommend letting it sit for and, again, if it's ok to toss the actual mushroom matter after soaking.

Just to clarify the lemon tek I'm talking about is:

1) powder mushies
2) add to shot glass
3) add lemon juice concentrate (or fresh lemon juice but I'll be using concentrate)
4) soak for 20mins
5) (Optional) Filter out mushroom bits
6) consume lemon juice


So no heat or water added

Also does anyone think using a tea bag will cause any issues? I dont see why it would but just wanna check.

I've read multiple threads here sayin bgg to drink the mushroom material, that lemon tek isnt an extraction method. I dont see how that makes sense but is this the case? Will I need to make tea if I want to avoid eating the mushroom material? Where I'm living atm I have a shared kitchen and I'd rather not have to explain what I'm doing.

Thanks in advance for responses I'll be anxiously awaiting a couple answers so that I can dose lol


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Edited by Ashtray161 (04/01/22 05:10 AM)

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Re: Lemon Tek Questions [Re: Ashtray161]
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Just grind up the shrooms either in a blenders with your hands or a weed grinder. Boil about a cup of water in a pot or in the microwave per serving, once to a boil add about 2 Tablespoons, slightly less than an oz, of lemon juice. Add shrooms, kill heat, steep for 15 minutes or more, stir once or twice in between, strain the liquid through a clean rag or old shirt, you may be able to use a paper towel if you have no rags or clothes as you might be a Forrest animal. Consume.

Using a tea bag won't cause issues, you might spend more time loading it than you would straining such a small amount through a clothes even tho so idk..
I toss the mush after, a young me would eat them, now I just squeeze all the water out really good, you could always run a second extract on them and see what it's like another day even maybe.

You can keep these teas in a refrigerator like any others, and you can even turn these into icecubes.


It's not necessarily just the cell walls, it breaks down the material and starts to release the active alkoloid prior to it entering you mouth.

Ide bet we would get similar results if we just let mushroom powder sit in water, in a refrigerator as to not let it rot, for 24 hours, as water is also great for psilocybin specifically and is a great degredation accelerator. Still leaving the actives in the solution, not the fruit body.
Almost like if you drink some Molly water compared to eating a capsule. It's going to start quicker, which means it will process and leave quicker.


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Re: Lemon Tek Questions [Re: QM33]
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QM33 said:
Just grind up the shrooms either in a blenders with your hands or a weed grinder. Boil about a cup of water in a pot or in the microwave per serving, once to a boil add about 2 Tablespoons, slightly less than an oz, of lemon juice. Add shrooms, kill heat, steep for 15 minutes or more, stir once or twice in between, strain the liquid through a clean rag or old shirt, you may be able to use a paper towel if you have no rags or clothes as you might be a Forrest animal. Consume.

Using a tea bag won't cause issues, you might spend more time loading it than you would straining such a small amount through a clothes even tho so idk..
I toss the mush after, a young me would eat them, now I just squeeze all the water out really good, you could always run a second extract on them and see what it's like another day even maybe.

You can keep these teas in a refrigerator like any others, and you can even turn these into icecubes.


It's not necessarily just the cell walls, it breaks down the material and starts to release the active alkoloid prior to it entering you mouth.

Ide bet we would get similar results if we just let mushroom powder sit in water, in a refrigerator as to not let it rot, for 24 hours, as water is also great for psilocybin specifically and is a great degredation accelerator. Still leaving the actives in the solution, not the fruit body.
Almost like if you drink some Molly water compared to eating a capsule. It's going to start quicker, which means it will process and leave quicker.



Okay so just to clarify I can
1) Grind shroomies
2) Boil water in microwave, remove
3) add 2 tablespoons of lemon juice to now very hot water
4) add powdered shrooms in a tea bag to hot lemon water
5) steep for 15mins, remove tea bag with mushie bits and consume?

And I should still get the expected result from 3.5grams of APE or should I adjust my dose in either direction?

The reason I'm double checking is I'll have to use the common kitchen to boil the water and then bring it back to my unit, which isnt far from the kitchen or anything but I'd be using the water off the heat source, which doesnt sound like an issue if I'm understanding you correctly

I'm looking for a quick acting shorter trip so this sounds perfect for me. I HATE waiting on the come up, tends to be where I overthink and shoot myself into a thought loop once things actually hit and I prefer shorter trips.

EDIT: usually when I make tea I reduce heat after reaching a boil but still have it simmering on the heat source while making the tea itself, is this not needed? Does just steeping in very hot water poured over the mushies in the cup work?

I really appreciate the quick response mate

Also nice new profile pic lol


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Then they came for the migrants, and I did not speak out because I was not a migrant.
Then they came for the queers, and I did not speak out because I was not queer.
Then they came for me, and there was nobody left to help me.

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Edited by Ashtray161 (04/01/22 05:35 AM)

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Re: Lemon Tek Questions [Re: Ashtray161]
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Ya. Maybe add the water before the microwave actually, as adding it after will only cool the water..

And no, when it comes and goes quicker... Say a regular mushroom trip lasts about 8 hours, start to finish, from eating until the end of pretty much all noticeable effects, I feel like tea can nearly fit it all into 4.
Maybe a 30min come up compared to an hour, maybe a 2-3hour intense psychadelic feast compared to a 4-5 hour melty wiggler, the  a 30 minute comedown compared to a 1-2 hour afterglow. And of course dose will be dependant, but I feel like that's how my two 3.5g ape trips would turn in one direction or the other.

And no I would just have the mush pow in a bag even so you could dump it in the water immediately if you have a long walk, get like a protein water bottle or something that's easy to fill and pack around even maybe.

And I agree, I simply don't have time for super long trips anymore, a big part of why I don't really enjoy acid as much these days, or simply don't have time for it.

I even do microdose teas which has been alot more beneficial to me than regular microdose.





And thanks ha. Good to see you back around!

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Re: Lemon Tek Questions [Re: QM33] * 1
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QM33 said:
Ya. Maybe add the water before the microwave actually, as adding it after will only cool the water..

And no, when it comes and goes quicker... Say a regular mushroom trip lasts about 8 hours, start to finish, from eating until the end of pretty much all noticeable effects, I feel like tea can nearly fit it all into 4.
Maybe a 30min come up compared to an hour, maybe a 2-3hour intense psychadelic feast compared to a 4-5 hour melty wiggler, the  a 30 minute comedown compared to a 1-2 hour afterglow. And of course dose will be dependant, but I feel like that's how my two 3.5g ape trips would turn in one direction or the other.

And no I would just have the mush pow in a bag even so you could dump it in the water immediately if you have a long walk, get like a protein water bottle or something that's easy to fill and pack around even maybe.

And I agree, I simply don't have time for super long trips anymore, a big part of why I don't really enjoy acid as much these days, or simply don't have time for it.

I even do microdose teas which has been alot more beneficial to me than regular microdose.





And thanks ha. Good to see you back around!



Gotcha, so add the lemon to the water and then boil.

It's not a far walk at all, literally like 30 seconds. I'm just used to making tea using simmering water on the heat source. I've read before that you can just pour boiling water over shrooms and let them steep for the same effect I've just never tried it before. I think adding the lemon juice will help me accept that I'm not losing a bunch of the magic. Not that I'm gonna be running low on mushies anytime soon lol I just hate having to redose.

I'd likely just have the tea bag in my pocket and plop in it right after taking the water out of the microwave.

I feel ya there, I cant really take Love anymore cuz I just dont enjoy the experience after 8 or 9 hours anymore. Hell, even over 5 hours and I'm asking to come down lol. If I could I would always just smoke DMT for my regular dosing and leave the mushies for very special occasions. I get exhausted pretty easily now and tend to have tougher trips when they go on and on.

And thank ya ^.^ I'm always lurking I just take breaks from posting when im... a little more animated than I'd like to be lol


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Then they came for the migrants, and I did not speak out because I was not a migrant.
Then they came for the queers, and I did not speak out because I was not queer.
Then they came for me, and there was nobody left to help me.

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Re: Lemon Tek Questions [Re: Ashtray161]
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So what I do is a little different..

I'll grind my desired dosage, and put it into a cup. Then I will juice two lemons and let it sit for for 25 minutes, mixing about 3 times throughout

In those 25 minutes, I will start prepping a tea. Boil some water, put it in a cup, and let the tea bag sit for 5 minutes.

After the tea is ready, should be around the same time the 25 minutes is up. Then I will put a heavy cloth over the tea, and strain the lemon juice into the cup.

I never eat any of the leftover mushrooms, just straight tea. With this method, I don't have any problems and my trips have been 🤙

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Re: Lemon Tek Questions [Re: Ashtray161]
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Ashtray161 have a good journey.
Hope methods above work for you.
Between trips you can can also try and build good gut health by drinking kombucha (I brew mine and mix with fresh lemon, turmeric ginger juice)
If you don’t want the hassle of making your own and don’t want to buy often expensive kombucha form stores try
Apple cider vinegar.5-1oz with 3-5oz water daily.

I do similar methods to above posts however I consume the mushroom bits and use limes instead of lemons. Both reasons because I do them outside and don’t bring a strainer.

-Crush grind mushrooms in a small jar
-squeeze 1-2 whole limes
-wait 15-45 min (usually just 20 for me)
-Consume
-add some water and drink the rinse out


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Re: Lemon Tek Questions [Re: Ashtray161] * 1
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if you're worried about nausea and vomiting then you're gonna want to discard the left over mushrooms. Give them a good squeeze before taking them out.


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Re: Lemon Tek Questions [Re: CHUCK.HNTR]
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CHUCK.HNTR said:
Ashtray161 have a good journey.
Hope methods above work for you.
Between trips you can can also try and build good gut health by drinking kombucha (I brew mine and mix with fresh lemon, turmeric ginger juice)
If you don’t want the hassle of making your own and don’t want to buy often expensive kombucha form stores try
Apple cider vinegar.5-1oz with 3-5oz water daily.

I do similar methods to above posts however I consume the mushroom bits and use limes instead of lemons. Both reasons because I do them outside and don’t bring a strainer.

-Crush grind mushrooms in a small jar
-squeeze 1-2 whole limes
-wait 15-45 min (usually just 20 for me)
-Consume
-add some water and drink the rinse out



Thanks! I do love me some booch, but I have serious health problems that unfortunately cause the nausea even when I'm not dosing, the mush just always push me over the edge of what my anti nausea meds do for me.
I do try and keep my microbiome healthy and the like but my poor gut is totally fucked lol

Thanks for the responses :smile: hope you're all doin well in this crazy world of ours.
I'll be dosing in about 6 hours so wish me luck :p


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First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out because I was not a communist.
Then they came for the migrants, and I did not speak out because I was not a migrant.
Then they came for the queers, and I did not speak out because I was not queer.
Then they came for me, and there was nobody left to help me.

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Re: Lemon Tek Questions [Re: Ashtray161]
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So just to over clarify lol, I wont lose any magic by pouring very hot (just boiled) lemon water over the mushrooms will extract the actives just as well as making tea over a heat source?


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(You Know What Time It Is)
First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out because I was not a communist.
Then they came for the migrants, and I did not speak out because I was not a migrant.
Then they came for the queers, and I did not speak out because I was not queer.
Then they came for me, and there was nobody left to help me.

ABOLISH ICE. Free Palestine. Revolution or bust (A) . Profile pic credit goes to an awesome human
Be Gay, Do Crime 161 1312

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Re: Lemon Tek Questions [Re: Ashtray161]
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Boiling water will be 212 max no matter what, this will not harm your product.

Maybe if say you were using a pot on a stove and the material was settled on the bottoms and the element was like 500F + and the bottom of the pan was 500+ making your product such a high temperature, then maybe.

But if you kill the heat source your all gravy baby.

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Re: Lemon Tek Questions [Re: Ashtray161]
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Re: Lemon Tek Questions [Re: QM33]
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QM33 said:
Boiling water will be 212 max no matter what, this will not harm your product.

Maybe if say you were using a pot on a stove and the material was settled on the bottoms and the element was like 500F + and the bottom of the pan was 500+ making your product such a high temperature, then maybe.

But if you kill the heat source your all gravy baby.



Thank you!
I was more worried about not getting a full extraction without keeping the water simmering while making the tea rather than destroying actives.
I dont want to leave too much magic behind since I'll be tossing the mushroom material.

Thanks again everyone!

Tonight I'll be

1) boil lemon water
2) add powdered mushrooms to a tea bag/put tea bag into a cup
3) pour just boiled lemon water into cup w tea bag
4) let steep for roughly 15mins
5) toss mushroom tea bag and consume liquid.

3hrs 45mins til liftoff >:)

I'm really looking foward to a shorter come up and more intense but shorter trip if the lemon juice really works. I usually have really tough come ups, the suspense kills me lol


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(You Know What Time It Is)
First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out because I was not a communist.
Then they came for the migrants, and I did not speak out because I was not a migrant.
Then they came for the queers, and I did not speak out because I was not queer.
Then they came for me, and there was nobody left to help me.

ABOLISH ICE. Free Palestine. Revolution or bust (A) . Profile pic credit goes to an awesome human
Be Gay, Do Crime 161 1312

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Re: Lemon Tek Questions [Re: Ashtray161]
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I’ve got a friend that a trip with often that used to have the same problem, no matter what the method of ingestion was. If it was tea, lemon tek or even just raw shrooms, would always have a massive puking session on the come up.
What worked for him was adding ginger to the tea or even just drinking a good quality ginger beer throughout the night. No more psychedelic puke :awesome: Maybe worth a try. There is many threads here about using ginger to stop nausea so there must be something in it.

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Re: Lemon Tek Questions [Re: Unknown error]
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Unknown error said:
I’ve got a friend that a trip with often that used to have the same problem, no matter what the method of ingestion was. If it was tea, lemon tek or even just raw shrooms, would always have a massive puking session on the come up.
What worked for him was adding ginger to the tea or even just drinking a good quality ginger beer throughout the night. No more psychedelic puke :awesome: Maybe worth a try. There is many threads here about using ginger to stop nausea so there must be something in it.



I use Zofran lol xP
Just double my normal dose for trips but I still get nascuous so I'll try the ginger


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(You Know What Time It Is)
First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out because I was not a communist.
Then they came for the migrants, and I did not speak out because I was not a migrant.
Then they came for the queers, and I did not speak out because I was not queer.
Then they came for me, and there was nobody left to help me.

ABOLISH ICE. Free Palestine. Revolution or bust (A) . Profile pic credit goes to an awesome human
Be Gay, Do Crime 161 1312

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Re: Lemon Tek Questions [Re: Ashtray161]
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Try mixing in some ginger with it or find a ginger herbal tea.

My bad I see now this was already mentioned.


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Re: Lemon Tek Questions [Re: Ashtray161]
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Moved my dosing to 2am to try and time a nice sunrise for the comedown.
Tminus 1hr 59mins til liftoff. Await a trip report tomorrow.

I've read a lot of people saying lemon tek mushies are stronger. I was thinking of moving my dose up to 4gs instead of 3.5 but idk if I need to if lemon tek is indeed stronger.
I'm going for 3gs of LGT and either .5 or 1g of APE this time around. After 5gs of APE I'm trying not to scare the shit out of myself twice in a row lol


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(You Know What Time It Is)
First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out because I was not a communist.
Then they came for the migrants, and I did not speak out because I was not a migrant.
Then they came for the queers, and I did not speak out because I was not queer.
Then they came for me, and there was nobody left to help me.

ABOLISH ICE. Free Palestine. Revolution or bust (A) . Profile pic credit goes to an awesome human
Be Gay, Do Crime 161 1312

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Re: Lemon Tek Questions [Re: Ashtray161]
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safe travels


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Re: Lemon Tek Questions [Re: NippleHat]
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NippleHat said:
safe travels



Ugh I lost track of time and it's gotten too late. I dont want the sun coming up too soon in my trip. I'm gonna wait til tonight. I cant sleep out of excitement and nervousness though. Maybe I will just dose now... idk I'll keep ya posted lol


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(You Know What Time It Is)
First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out because I was not a communist.
Then they came for the migrants, and I did not speak out because I was not a migrant.
Then they came for the queers, and I did not speak out because I was not queer.
Then they came for me, and there was nobody left to help me.

ABOLISH ICE. Free Palestine. Revolution or bust (A) . Profile pic credit goes to an awesome human
Be Gay, Do Crime 161 1312

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Re: Lemon Tek Questions [Re: Ashtray161]
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you should wait and get it timed perfectly, it'll be worth it! Those mushrooms will be there tomorrow :smile:


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