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Florida warns of new drug much more powerful than fentanyl * 1
    #27713869 - 03/30/22 10:23 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Florida warns of new drug much more powerful than fentanyl
March 29, 2022 - Yahoo News

A new drug 20-100 times stronger than fentanyl is now making its way into common street drugs across the United States.

Isotonitazene, referred to as ISO, is creating problems for spring breakers in Florida and even leading to second-hand overdoses.

Florida Attorney General Ashley Moody issued a warning on ISO earlier this month, as law enforcement agencies warned the drug could be driving the recent increase in overdose deaths.

"For years, we have been warning about the dangers of fentanyl and how just one pill laced with this synthetic opioid can kill. Now, there is a new, deadlier drug being found in Florida. Isotonitazene … is so strong that it can kill just by coming in contact with someone’s skin or being accidentally inhaled. ISO has already been linked to overdose deaths in Florida, so please, never take any illicit drug and know that using just one time could cost you your life," Moody said.

ISO is linked to overdose deaths across the country, including in the Midwest. Mark Geary buried his son unexpectedly in May 2021, after his son ingested a hydrocodone unknowingly laced with ISO.

"He was a son, father, grandpa, uncle. He was just so happy, and he just loved his kids. He loved his family. It will be a year in May. Without family, I would probably be more devastated," Geary said.

Jeff Geary's cause of death was initially reported as a fentanyl overdose, but later tests found ISO contributed to his death.

"I never heard of ISO, and she explained it’s a more powerful drug than fentanyl. I believe that this is going to be the new fentanyl, like fentanyl was to heroin … where they thought it was heroin killing people, and it ended up being fentanyl. Now I believe a lot of fentanyl deaths, if they take a second look at it, it’s going to be ISO," Geary said.

ISO is now increasing overdose deaths across the country, according to the Pasco County Sheriff's Office.

"We're seeing overdose numbers going up. My prediction is that when the medical examiners’ report comes back, we're going to see that ISO is causing that percentage to go higher for overdose fatalities," Sheriff Chris Nocco said.

The Pasco County Sheriff's Office found the drug doesn't always respond to Narcan, a medication that reverses the effects of fentanyl and other opioids. Like fentanyl, the drug is also sparking more accidental overdoses in families — and even law enforcement, second-hand.

"We had an instance the other day where a mother and her 14-year-old daughter overdosed. We’re scared for our law enforcement officers, our firefighters, our canines, you know, one time they're out there trying to save somebody's life. You know, even just, you know, trying to resuscitate somebody back, you know, can cause them to overdose also," Nocco said. "You've taken a poison, and you magnified it 20 to 100 times. So you're, you know, basically going to be destroying people the first time they take it."

According to the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), ISO is manufactured in China, shipped to Mexico and then smuggled into the United States.

Geary is sharing his son's story in hopes of saving another family from heartbreak.

"I'm putting my son's story about his death out there to possibly help just one person save someone's life or save a family from going through what our family is going through," he said.

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Re: Florida warns of new drug much more powerful than fentanyl [Re: veggie]
    #27713885 - 03/30/22 10:38 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Anyone familiar?


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Re: Florida warns of new drug much more powerful than fentanyl [Re: Amanita86]
    #27713921 - 03/30/22 11:23 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Since this can't be made informally, of which we are aware, there is no reason to trust your legitimate, state dealer.

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... it can kill just by coming in contact with someone’s skin or being accidentally inhaled.



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Re: Florida warns of new drug much more powerful than fentanyl [Re: durian_2008]
    #27713951 - 03/30/22 11:48 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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is so strong that it can kill just by coming in contact with someone’s skin or being accidentally inhaled




That's the same thing they said about fentanyl...

So now with people like John Oliver calling bullshit, of course they need a new boogeyman.

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Re: Florida warns of new drug much more powerful than fentanyl [Re: Holybullshit]
    #27713962 - 03/30/22 11:58 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Those flappers from "Reefer Madness" couldn't make something, which can't be touched or inhaled.

So, what if the claims of poisoning-on-contact are true.

This narrative incriminates a state monopoly.

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InvisibleveggieM

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Re: Florida warns of new drug much more powerful than fentanyl [Re: Amanita86] * 1
    #27714003 - 03/30/22 12:33 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

According to Wikipedia, Isotonitazene is just "slightly more potent than fentanyl". So the article is inaccurate when it says 20-100 times stronger than fentanyl. They could have a bad source for info or they just pulled those numbers out of their arse.

Regardless, the nation's drug supply is contaminated. Unless it is something you grew, cannabis or mushrooms, etc., it is safe to assume that whatever your drug of choice is it could contain potentially lethal compounds, and that you should take appropriate precautions. Test your street drugs, find a friendly doctor, or change your behavior until this problem is rectified.

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Re: Florida warns of new drug much more powerful than fentanyl [Re: veggie] * 2
    #27714018 - 03/30/22 12:48 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

A really quick search reveals..
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A new drug



"first synthesized and patented in 1959"
The Rise and Fall of Isotonitazene and Brorphine: Two Recent Stars in the Synthetic Opioid Firmament

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20-100 times stronger than fentanyl



" it was found to be around 2.5 times more potent than hydromorphone and slightly more potent than fentanyl.[2][13]"

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Isotonitazene … is so strong that it can kill just by coming in contact with someone’s skin



"Routes of administration: By mouth, nasal spray, e-vape"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isotonitazene


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Re: Florida warns of new drug much more powerful than fentanyl [Re: Icyurmt]
    #27714045 - 03/30/22 01:09 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Is it considered an example of self-incrimination, to post how this can be made at-home or in-private, like in Hamilton's Pharmacopeia?

I can do molarity equations but literally don't understand how not to come into contact with something so potent.

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Re: Florida warns of new drug much more powerful than fentanyl [Re: veggie] * 1
    #27714078 - 03/30/22 01:39 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Fentanyl is bad, but this media panic that has lead to abandoning all facts and verification is not helping.

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Re: Florida warns of new drug much more powerful than fentanyl [Re: veggie] * 1
    #27714409 - 03/30/22 05:30 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

In b4 this is found in kratom…:goodmorning:


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Re: Florida warns of new drug much more powerful than fentanyl [Re: durian_2008]
    #27715590 - 03/31/22 03:22 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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durian_2008 said:
I can do molarity equations but literally don't understand how not to come into contact with something so potent.





It's not a real concern...as long as you aren't sticking your hands in the solvent/powder and licking your fingers clean.

MAYBE one could unintentionally dose themselves with dangerous amounts if they got PURE uncut powder all over their hands and then rubbed their eyes.

But the shit ain't anthrax.

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Re: Florida warns of new drug much more powerful than fentanyl [Re: veggie]
    #27715738 - 03/31/22 06:47 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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Isotonitazene is a benzimidazole derived opioid analgesic drug related to etonitazene,[2][3][4] which has been sold as a designer drug.[5][6] It has only around half the potency of etonitazene in animal studies,[2][7][8][9][10][11][12] but it is likely less potent in humans as was seen with etonitazene (1000 times as potent as morphine in animal models yet only 60 times as potent in humans).[2] Isotonitazene (obtained from an online vendor) was fully characterized in November 2019 in a paper where the authors performed a full analytical structure elucidation in addition to determination of the potency at the μ-opioid receptor using a biological functional assay in vitro. While isotonitazene was not compared directly to morphine in this assay, it was found to be around 2.5 times more potent than hydromorphone and slightly more potent than fentanyl.[2][13]



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isotonitazene

ok what the fuck

Edited by kreg (03/31/22 06:48 PM)

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Re: Florida warns of new drug much more powerful than fentanyl [Re: Amanita86]
    #27715740 - 03/31/22 06:57 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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Amanita86 said:
In b4 this is found in kratom…:goodmorning:



I have been begging people to check their kratom once and I can't find one fuckin person that will bother to spend one test strip on it lol. I would be more than happy to test my kratom on that front if I had test strips!  I reallly really really would not be surprised if there's already some fucker out there spiking kratom with fent.

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Re: Florida warns of new drug much more powerful than fentanyl [Re: kreg]
    #27716386 - 04/01/22 11:08 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

I have an interest in natural analogues and would like to start fundraising for my own personal kratom project, again, today.



I am not strictly against rc's from trustworthy sources,just find that dangerous ripoffs come from an assumption of lack. There is enough of everything to go around, without poisoning a person, initiating force, or violating their cognitive liberty.

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Re: Florida warns of new drug much more powerful than fentanyl [Re: veggie]
    #27716400 - 04/01/22 11:21 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Right on cool man yeah more kratom... Im just going to die alone with my interest in colorata i guess whatever

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