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Who would be a safe option for casual sex
#27713653 - 03/30/22 05:04 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Im still a virgin so I intend on getting sex soon, I just cant think of anyone who it would make sense to ask. WI mean its so fucking stupidbut whenever I ask this people give me the same meaningless responses- asif sex were some divine essence to bu studied- how in the fuck is this stuff supposed to happen? Look, Im here, youre here, evidently people had sex for this to happen, and it sure as hell wasnt spontaneous, it happens SOMEHOW. So, now that we have established this obvious fact: how does sex happen?
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Re: Who would be a safe option for casual sex [Re: Shrooms4menow] 1
#27713665 - 03/30/22 05:31 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Usually love. Are you familiar?
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Re: Who would be a safe option for casual sex [Re: Shrooms4menow] 6
#27713687 - 03/30/22 05:55 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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having done enough casual sex (not implying ranked competative sex exists) lemme tell you now, it's worse than masturbation a lot of the time.
When there's love involved, then sex is magical. Without it, it's dirty, and sure, you can overcome the revulsion to cum, but it's not worth it. Took me a number of attempts to realise that sex without love is meaningless.
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Re: Who would be a safe option for casual sex [Re: QM33]
#27713822 - 03/30/22 09:35 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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QM33 said: Usually love. Are you familiar?
Is that a joke? Very little of the sex that happens is out of love You seem very young and naive
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Re: Who would be a safe option for casual sex [Re: Visionary Tools]
#27713830 - 03/30/22 09:43 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Visionary Tools said: having done enough casual sex (not implying ranked competative sex exists) lemme tell you now, it's worse than masturbation a lot of the time.
When there's love involved, then sex is magical. Without it, it's dirty, and sure, you can overcome the revulsion to cum, but it's not worth it. Took me a number of attempts to realise that sex without love is meaningless.
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Re: Who would be a safe option for casual sex [Re: Shrooms4menow]
#27713837 - 03/30/22 09:48 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Pretend you're not a virgin. Girls these days don't want to be your first unless they are a catch, and if she just wants casual sex then she's probably not the catch you're looking for. So harness any confidence you might gain from a lay and get in that mindset, and that mindset is - it doesn't really matter. As far as "how sex happens" it's all right place, right time. The people that flip through partners like pages in a book simply learned how to put themselves in the right situation. So more or less just put yourself out there, be confident, and don't obsess. If you're dying from anxiety around a girl and have a 1 track mind then it's going to fail you. Just relax, Frankie.
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Re: Who would be a safe option for casual sex [Re: Shrooms4menow]
#27713838 - 03/30/22 09:49 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27706320#27706320
Given your post linked above, I think it'll be difficult for you to make sex happen There are a small number of males that females consider worthy of sex and a that's just how it is. The situation of only a few males being wanted by many females leaves many males wanting but not knowing how to get it. Look up some info on how all women are chasing 1% of men. Part of it is due to the over estimation of a woman's own self-worth (they think they're 8s or 9s when really they're 4s and 5s) but they all think they deserve men that are 10s Sorry this isn't encouraging but it's reality. I'd seriously consider an escort if I were you. All sex is transactional anyway regardless of what people in relationships tell themselves. Honestly, an escort would probably make you more comfortable than trying to bed a woman the "traditional way" because you know up front what they want and you don't have to feel like they're playing these games of "will they, won't they" and her job is to be there to make ya feel good
This probably isn't what you want to hear, but as someone who's more than twice your age, this is my opinion based on a lot of life experience
Edit: Just noticed your original question about a safe option for casual sex and I still think the escort would be the safest, both mentally and psychologically, as well as the most likely, just wear a condom
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Re: Who would be a safe option for casual sex [Re: QM33]
#27713840 - 03/30/22 09:49 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Visionary Tools said: having done enough casual sex (not implying ranked competative sex exists) lemme tell you now, it's worse than masturbation a lot of the time.
When there's love involved, then sex is magical. Without it, it's dirty, and sure, you can overcome the revulsion to cum, but it's not worth it. Took me a number of attempts to realise that sex without love is meaningless.
How is he supposed to find a partner..? A pretty large number of relationships these days either start with sex or quickly move on to it.
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Re: Who would be a safe option for casual sex [Re: Shrooms4menow] 3
#27713939 - 03/30/22 11:39 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Step #1, buy yourself this shirt: (They come in all colors)
 https://www.amazon.com/Free-Mustache-Rides-Funny-T-Shirt/dp/B083YQYTP1
Step #2, count your girlfriends!
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Re: Who would be a safe option for casual sex [Re: flugelizor] 1
#27714126 - 03/30/22 02:08 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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But anyway, all kidding aside, I agree it is awkward. For me it always involved a group social interaction - friend of a friend at a party or bar or school. And it was obvious we were both interested.
Get as much exposure as you can. Go to bars with friends, enjoy your favorite pasttime WITH OTHERS. And if all else fails, some of my friends found their spouse computer dating.
And it sounds bad, but alcohol helps
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Re: Who would be a safe option for casual sex [Re: Shrooms4menow]
#27714218 - 03/30/22 03:06 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Actually step one is grow a mustache hehe That’s good advice though. Being out with friends is good exposure, plus you could have someone be your wingman. It seriously improves your odds compared to going out alone
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Re: Who would be a safe option for casual sex [Re: Anonymous #1] 1
#27714232 - 03/30/22 03:13 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Yes, also, having a girlfriend makes others want you. Sad but true. So if you have a willing conspirator ...
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Re: Who would be a safe option for casual sex [Re: Shrooms4menow]
#27714393 - 03/30/22 05:21 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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True true, success begets success. The hard part is getting your first bit of success
The other is very true too. My brother and I were at lunch with two female friends which we normally didn't do, and the looks from other women in the restaurant were something we weren't used to
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Re: Who would be a safe option for casual sex [Re: Visionary Tools]
#27714885 - 03/31/22 01:07 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Visionary Tools said: having done enough casual sex (not implying ranked competative sex exists) lemme tell you now, it's worse than masturbation a lot of the time.
When there's love involved, then sex is magical. Without it, it's dirty, and sure, you can overcome the revulsion to cum, but it's not worth it. Took me a number of attempts to realise that sex without love is meaningless.
I know that, but I cant pay someone to have genuine affection for me- I may however be able to pay someone to have sex with them
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Re: Who would be a safe option for casual sex [Re: Visionary Tools]
#27715231 - 03/31/22 10:22 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Visionary Tools said: having done enough casual sex (not implying ranked competative sex exists) lemme tell you now, it's worse than masturbation a lot of the time.
When there's love involved, then sex is magical. Without it, it's dirty, and sure, you can overcome the revulsion to cum, but it's not worth it. Took me a number of attempts to realise that sex without love is meaningless.
This looks good on paper if you like a virtue signaling but give me a break. Revulsion to cum? Not worth it? Casual sex worse than masturbation?
I bet your the kind of guy that would rather starve to death than live off ramen or hotdogs because he couldn't have steak every day
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Re: Who would be a safe option for casual sex [Re: Shrooms4menow] 2
#27715264 - 03/31/22 10:54 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Anonymous #1 said: There are a small number of males that females consider worthy of sex and a that's just how it is. The situation of only a few males being wanted by many females leaves many males wanting but not knowing how to get it.
Okay, that's just straight up untrue. Like how many women have you known? Women are not like that. Sure, they're picky when it comes to sex, but not THAT picky. It's attitudes like this that hold people back. Women are just people, I've known women who have had sex with really ugly guys, sometimes literally just out of generosity or because they feel bad for them, or just because they're friends with them. Often times many women aren't that interested in guys you might consider traditionally attractive, and instead they'll go for guys they know or who are funny or who they have something in common with.
There was this one girl who I ran into recently, long story short, she was consistently hanging out with and hitting on the nerdiest, ugliest, most socially incompetent person out of a group of people. The traditional attractive type A personalities she didn't spend any time with at all. She was an attractive person, too.
You guys need to get out and actually meet and become friends with more women, especially OP. OP's post is so cringy it feels like a troll, but I think that OP is probably just young and hasn't spent that much time around women. Step A is get to know some women. Don't expect anything out of it, just fucking get to know them as human beings, maybe even become their friends. And maybe nothing will happen, but at least you will get to know women and get experience socializing with women and making friends with women, and eventually if you do that enough you'll find someone who likes you. Over half the population is women, and many of them are not particularly choosy. More choosy than men, but not by like an insane amount. You'd be surprised the kinds of men that women are interested in.
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Re: Who would be a safe option for casual sex [Re: Shrooms4menow]
#27715292 - 03/31/22 11:21 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Ok yeah, maybe my statement was a little unclear. I was thinking more of when a woman chooses a mate, not necessarily chooses who she'll have sex with. Thanks for helping me see I needed to clarify that There certainly are a good number of women that will screw rather indiscriminately
And to answer your question, I've known and "known" quite a few women
OP, you miss 100% of the time when you don't take a swing Swing that bat (maybe pun intended a lil) and no matter your odds of scoring go up
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Re: Who would be a safe option for casual sex [Re: Anonymous #1]
#27715954 - 03/31/22 10:54 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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The primary issue here is that I do not have a strong sex drive yet have a disproportianate desire for it. I remember reading Simone de Beauvoirs discourse on the differences between mens and womens attitudes towards sex and I noticed early on that I approach sex more the way she describes women as approaching it and as women have been described to approach it. According to beauvoir, sex costs women something it doesnot cost men due to differences in biology. Men are supposed to experience their bodies as the acting-upon their desires whereas women experience their bodies as something to be acted upon and sublate this via an Other. Beauvoir identifies this as a historical concept, and basically says that women need to overcome this at the level of consciousness by seeing themselves as a group unified by biology and against mainstream norms. To a large degree our culture lives in the shadows of this transformation, yet certain residual traces of this historical situation remain, those tied to biology: it typically physically hurts them the first few times, and about half of them suffer from "post-coital dysphoria." Fear of sex , fear of being hurt during sex, fear of their own desires are themes commonly described.
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Re: Who would be a safe option for casual sex [Re: Shrooms4menow] 1
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Shrooms4menow said: The primary issue here is that I do not have a strong sex drive yet have a disproportianate desire for it. I remember reading Simone de Beauvoirs discourse on the differences between mens and womens attitudes towards sex and I noticed early on that I approach sex more the way she describes women as approaching it and as women have been described to approach it. This is not, however a gender identity but the structure of my sexuality- much of the misunderstanding of Beauvoirs ideas comes from this.
According to beauvoir, sex costs women something as they are generally passive. Men experience their bodies as the acting-upon their desires whereas women experience their bodies as something to be acted upon. Hence their sex drives are externalised in the form of preferences, they are "picky." This is because sex costs them something it does not cost men due to the arbitrary nature of their biology. Beauvoirs whole project is framed as a struggle against biology.
So in addition to their hymens making sex physically hurt the first few times, they also have to deal with a general fear of sex, guilt over their more submissive desires, being conflicted over sex yet agreeing to it, and an increased rate of post coital dysphoria.
This is bullshit, I'm a very anxious person, all the girls I've been with have been more comfortable with the whole flirting and sex thing then me, anything saying one gender is this way, and another gender is that way is bullshit cultural shit, culture is changing yo, its not the 1950s
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Re: Who would be a safe option for casual sex [Re: gopher]
#27716069 - 04/01/22 05:04 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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I know that- to a large extent men have been thinking about sex more and more the way women used to, its strange- especially in the MRA manosphere. Its important to understand that what beauvoir waspromoting was a historical concept of woman- today we have a cultural understanding of the sexes and gender. also you are the exception-
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Re: Who would be a safe option for casual sex [Re: Shrooms4menow]
#27716119 - 04/01/22 06:25 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Men dont have to be the Dom and women dont have to be the sub, that's sexist yo
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Re: Who would be a safe option for casual sex [Re: gopher]
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I didnt say that. I said that this is acultural assumption built around biological reality- women do not express sexual dominance as men do- if anything men are more likely to feel ashamed about their dominant tendencies. Social or personal dominance is different- Im not talking about simply beating the shit out of me but a person with psychological power- I am attracted to certain mindsets, not the ones conventionally seen as dominant. Lets call this Emotional Dominance.
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Re: Who would be a safe option for casual sex [Re: gopher]
#27716554 - 04/01/22 01:17 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Shrooms4menow said: The primary issue here is that I do not have a strong sex drive yet have a disproportianate desire for it. I remember reading Simone de Beauvoirs discourse on the differences between mens and womens attitudes towards sex and I noticed early on that I approach sex more the way she describes women as approaching it and as women have been described to approach it. This is not, however a gender identity but the structure of my sexuality- much of the misunderstanding of Beauvoirs ideas comes from this.
According to beauvoir, sex costs women something as they are generally passive. Men experience their bodies as the acting-upon their desires whereas women experience their bodies as something to be acted upon. Hence their sex drives are externalised in the form of preferences, they are "picky." This is because sex costs them something it does not cost men due to the arbitrary nature of their biology. Beauvoirs whole project is framed as a struggle against biology.
So in addition to their hymens making sex physically hurt the first few times, they also have to deal with a general fear of sex, guilt over their more submissive desires, being conflicted over sex yet agreeing to it, and an increased rate of post coital dysphoria.
This is bullshit, I'm a very anxious person, all the girls I've been with have been more comfortable with the whole flirting and sex thing then me, anything saying one gender is this way, and another gender is that way is bullshit cultural shit, culture is changing yo, its not the 1950s
Thats kind of my entire point.
People forget that the eraof gender stereotypes was also the era of sexual repression, which Freud theorised to be the cause of neuroses. Many of the criticisms of Freud are actually misunderstandings coming from a failure to understand this fact- If you read 19th century literature and philosophy you will find that we were actually more accepting of male vulnerability then- male sexuality was not seen as it i today. I mentioned the relatively high prevelence of post-coital dysphoria, but Schopenhauer actually refers to this as a metaphysical phenomenon. We have always had the archeypal neurotic. A man who is not only sexually submissive but sexually repressed and in general emotionally and socially submissive.
In contemporary culture we look past this, partly because these men were not held up as ideal then, they were simply tolerated. However now Beauvoirs criticisms have been transformed into absolute knowledge- muc of what she does in "the second sex" is simply attempt to dispell many of the claims about sexuality made by freud-
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Re: Who would be a safe option for casual sex [Re: Shrooms4menow]
#27716561 - 04/01/22 01:22 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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I am not refering to the aggressiveness of the acts themselves but to their direction- I probably have the capacity to be physically aggressive myself, but like I said catatonia and mutism are big issues in autism- I would have no capacity to communicate my desires and would automatically obey any command given (as automatic obedience to simple commands is symptomatic of catatonia)- what this means is that my potential partner would need to decide how to do it, which in turn means I would need to be in a position to trust them. This may even mean that I do all the acts, just as long as she/he directed me, maybe even positioned me which could become necessary due to waxy flexibility. The caveat being that once started I would experience myself as existing through the act and I can only imagine what this would be like with sex as I know myself to feel vulnerable and sensitive after masturbation.
Come to think of it the earlier recomendation of finding someone whose into bdsm may make sense- no restraints needed i guess
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I dont know what your saying exactly but bdsm is all about consent and knowing yourpartners boundaries
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Re: Who would be a safe option for casual sex [Re: Shrooms4menow] 2
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Shrooms4menow said: Im still a virgin so I intend on getting sex soon, I just cant think of anyone who it would make sense to ask. WI mean its so fucking stupidbut whenever I ask this people give me the same meaningless responses- asif sex were some divine essence to bu studied- how in the fuck is this stuff supposed to happen? Look, Im here, youre here, evidently people had sex for this to happen, and it sure as hell wasnt spontaneous, it happens SOMEHOW. So, now that we have established this obvious fact: how does sex happen?
You should let it happen naturally- let the girl come along on her own later. Just nerd out while you can and if anyone laughs you must laugh back, you absolutely must. I'm not saying go full soyboi but man I was so fucking eager to lose my V card when I was in middle and high school.. Didn't make any sense I was just following the stupid "hurr it would be cool if you did" thing. When I did, I hated it, the girl was awful, the sex was awful. Just really embarrassing experience I wish I could have shared with someone I actually loved so I could have really enjoyed it. Good luck OP. Don't eat too many tide pods out there(assuming you're a zoomer)
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Re: Who would be a safe option for casual sex [Re: gopher]
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gopher said: I dont know what your saying exactly but bdsm is all about consent and knowing yourpartners boundaries
yeah I guess they've been redefining it then- Im just trying to fiure out the logistics of this garbage
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#27716856 - 04/01/22 05:11 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Modern BDSM is women fantasizing about being victims of domestic abuse so they can go around playing victim "He hit mee wwaaaahhhH!" But no really there are some (delusional) women that think tricking a man into hitting them is the same thing as BDSM, it isn't
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Re: Who would be a safe option for casual sex [Re: kreg]
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kreg said: Modern BDSM is women fantasizing about being victims of domestic abuse so they can go around playing victim "He hit mee wwaaaahhhH!" But no really there are some (delusional) women that think tricking a man into hitting them is the same thing as BDSM, it isn't
Yeah. I wouldnt know. Ive never had fetishes.
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