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    #27712143 - 03/28/22 09:43 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

Always liked shrooms when I was young so fast forward 30 years & a couple of months ago I decided what the hell I'm gonna try growing some. At 50 I'm not looking to trip balls, just some microdosing and the occasional out of body experience. Found the shroomery, picked up some supplies & got some BRF cakes coming along. Just birthed 6 tonight & made 2 shoeboxes with em following Damon's coir tek, Bod's SB tek & Mushroomnate's SB tek. I got 10 more that are not far behind that I'm gonna put in a tub I made using Ziran's hybrid mono tek. Just trying different things you know. Also made some Agar last night from pasty whyte's tek. Hoping to get something good enough to drop on them plates & move on to grain in the future. Anyways, just trying to read & learn as much as I can. Got some pics but still trying to figure out how to post them. Thanks for having me.


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Re: Noob here! [Re: The Holy Reality]
    #27712147 - 03/28/22 09:47 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

Sounds like you have yourself organized nicely.
How to post pictures.
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Re: Noob here! [Re: The Tao]
    #27712161 - 03/28/22 09:58 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)



I think I might have it. Thanks The Tao,


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Re: Noob here! [Re: The Holy Reality]
    #27712190 - 03/28/22 10:15 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

hell yeah man, sounds like you did some solid research. welcome to the world of mycology! i think you’ll find it as addicting as the rest of us lol


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Re: Noob here! [Re: hazyhorse]
    #27712273 - 03/28/22 11:11 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, I made a SAB & followed all the sterile TEK's on here but I used a GT MSS. I've been lucky so far but I'm a realist & I know contam is probably gonna rear its ugly head somewhere soon. My backup plan is to throw any bad cakes into a flower pot outside with some leftover coir & see what happens. That's why I said fuck it & just dove in head first & made agar. I wanna start playing with that & up my chances of growing some baller shrooms. I'll post some pics as they come along.


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Re: Noob here! [Re: The Holy Reality]
    #27712332 - 03/28/22 11:54 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

agar is def the way to go for some killer grows, but PF tek is tried & true. i think you’ll end up with some mushies for sure, but yeah agar is sick. it’s super fun to take clones & grow them out. but agar gives you almost limitless potential


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Re: Noob here! [Re: hazyhorse] * 2
    #27723544 - 04/06/22 05:25 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

Just an update on my shoebox grow 9 days in. Got pins showing in one and very small ones starting to show in the other. Accidentally deleted my first pics but these are 9 days in. Not sure what I'll end up with but I'm just happy to see pins on my first grow!



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Re: Noob here! [Re: The Holy Reality]
    #27723657 - 04/06/22 06:57 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

i see solid primordia there.  i bet you get a solid flush

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    #27723675 - 04/06/22 07:09 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

Nice! Going to be a nice flush by the looks of it. Smart move going ahead and getting into agar. It is the best. Grab you a clone from a nice cluster from this grow and you will really be off to the races.


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Re: Noob here! [Re: MysticMycologist] * 1
    #27723760 - 04/06/22 07:45 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah I'm hoping to get a big fatty to clone. This came from a GT MSS. Got 3 other BRF cakes in a hybrid mono. Gonna birth, dunk & put 9 more in the mono this weekend so we'll see. Here's the 3 in the mono now. I know there a little gnarly looking but they pinned pretty good in the jars so we'll see how they turn out. They seem to be recovering some. I'm bottom watering, pouring off any unused water every 24hrs & misting every couple of days. There's a little bit of something on the top of the cake all the way to the right but I think it's just blueing. My concern is the lone shroom submerged in the water to the right. Thinking it might breed contam. Should I just clip it? Idk man gimme yall's thoughts.

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Re: Noob here! [Re: The Holy Reality] * 1
    #27723921 - 04/06/22 09:32 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

Welcome To Shroomery! :mushroom2:

Next time instead of SGFC you could try Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes.

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Re: Noob here! [Re: fungusul]
    #27723957 - 04/06/22 09:59 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

I agree with this. I live in a dry climate, and had better luck with humidity chambers and water tubs for cubensis cakes. Truly set and forget. All the misting and fanning just mats the surface.


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Re: Noob here! [Re: MysticMycologist]
    #27724206 - 04/07/22 05:34 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

I jumped the gun & made that SGFC before I read they dry things out so that's why all the duct tape is there. I did read a little bit on the water tub tek and think I might try that on my next grow. Guess I'll just stick it out with what I got on these next few jars,see what I can get & regroup next time.


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Re: Noob here! [Re: The Holy Reality]
    #27724222 - 04/07/22 05:47 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

I'm new to this as well so I'm following this to see what works best for you. Looks like you got it down pretty well. Please keep us updated.

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Re: Noob here! [Re: The Holy Reality]
    #27724279 - 04/07/22 07:52 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

I did the same "mistake" (not really a mistake but it was a ton of unnecessary work with a soldering iron) and made a SGFC before even having colonized cakes.
Fast forward 3 weeks and I had two shoeboxes with cakes that I shredded and spawned to bulk.
If you plan on going to grains either way, then a SGFC is just throwing money away (like I did). Doing shoeboxes from BRF cakes and learning agar while they are growing is the way to go.

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Re: Noob here! [Re: Ankhseramun]
    #27724474 - 04/07/22 11:37 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

I agree, I'm digging my shoeboxes. They're pinning like a bitch overnight. The 3 BRF cakes in the SGFC I converted to a hybrid mono with duct tape, not so much. I'm thinking about putting 6 of the 9 cakes I'm gonna birth and dunk this weekend in the SGFC/mono and make another shoebox with the other 3. Not giving up on the SGFC but not really liking my odds so far. I'm keeping an eye on it. This pic is less than 24hrs from the last and they've definitely increased quite a bit in size.


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Re: Noob here! [Re: The Holy Reality]
    #27724797 - 04/07/22 05:04 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

yeah, it kinda shocks me that the SGFC or fruiting cakes as cakes is still so recommended. i don’t see how maintaining cakes is any easier or more simple than just putting them to coir. when i was first starting out, the SGFC was the most daunting part. glad i realized i could just break the cakes into a tub bc i would have been annoyed making a SGFC just to never use it again lol


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Re: Noob here! [Re: hazyhorse]
    #27724799 - 04/07/22 05:08 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

If the cakes are bacterial, fruiting them as cakes is recommended, as spawning them can cause a lot of headaches. Healthy cakes that colonize in good time can be crumbled and spawned with good success, but if the cakes are sketchy, then fruiting them as cakes has a higher success rate. SGFC, though, I would not recommend for cubensis. Much easier options like humidity chambers and water tubs.


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Re: Noob here! [Re: MysticMycologist]
    #27724935 - 04/07/22 07:31 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

Got a 3rd shoebox going today with 3 cakes. Gonna dunk the other 6 tomorrow and put in my SGFC convert to a hybrid mono with duct tape. It's kinda large for only 3 cakes, could be some of my problem. We'll see once I get 6 more in there. They just ain't looking very sexy these days but I'm patient. No signs of contam yet so that's good. Definitely gonna retire this tub for cakes after this grow.



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Re: Noob here! [Re: The Holy Reality] * 1
    #27724990 - 04/07/22 08:12 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

I would group your three cakes together, next to each other, in the center of the SFGC. It should help with keeping the humidity up.


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Re: Noob here! [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #27725039 - 04/07/22 08:46 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

I did go move them after seeing your post LC. I'm honored to get tips from a member with your status. Thanks!


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Re: Noob here! [Re: MysticMycologist] * 1
    #27725173 - 04/08/22 01:02 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

the water tub is sick. i don’t do cakes but i probably woulda been more apt to try that than a SGFC & a fuck ton of perlite lol. tbh i would probably just top fruit bacterial cakes with a ziplock on top before birthing them but yeah you’re right it would be much better to not break them up if they were unhealthy


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Re: Noob here!(Shoebox Update) [Re: hazyhorse] * 1
    #27730049 - 04/11/22 09:12 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

About to harvest these today & try a 4hr dunk for a second flush. Although I'm happy to have gotten anything on my first grow, I'm thinking it should have been better. As you can see in the pics I had a few nice ones but most seem to be on the small side. Split stems, thin fruits, maybe a little too much moisture, genetics, idk. We'll see what the second flush produces. These pics were taken around 4am this morning so they have filled out a bit more since then. I read sometimes a second flush produces more so we'll see. Any comments/suggestions are appreciated.



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Re: Noob here!(Shoebox Update) [Re: The Holy Reality]
    #27730161 - 04/11/22 11:31 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

Got 360g wet from 2 shoeboxes. I wouldn't call it a success, was hoping for 500-600,but for my very first grow I don't consider it a failure either.


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Re: Noob here!(Shoebox Update) [Re: The Holy Reality]
    #27730167 - 04/11/22 11:44 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

Mate you have had SOLID results, why so disappointed? This is a reasonable first flush in my opinion, I'd be stoked.


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Re: Noob here!(Shoebox Update) [Re: Bobbins]
    #27730216 - 04/11/22 12:39 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

I know what it is! I've been looking at all these killer ass grows on here & I guess my expectations were a little high. That all comes with experience and the occasional luck though. Overall I am happy with it. Still might get more with a 2nd flush, 1 more shoebox on its 4th day & 9 BRF cakes in a water tub that are starting to pin so it's all good.


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Re: Noob here!(Shoebox Update) [Re: The Holy Reality]
    #27730224 - 04/11/22 12:45 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

Grab a good clone from a nice cluster and run it again. That is a nice flush though.


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Re: Noob here! [Re: The Holy Reality]
    #27730232 - 04/11/22 12:53 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

Shoebox tek worked great for me.

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Re: Noob here!(Shoebox Update) [Re: The Holy Reality]
    #27730233 - 04/11/22 12:53 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

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I know what it is! I've been looking at all these killer ass grows on here & I guess my expectations were a little high. That all comes with experience and the occasional luck though. Overall I am happy with it. Still might get more with a 2nd flush, 1 more shoebox on its 4th day & 9 BRF cakes in a water tub that are starting to pin so it's all good.



Was that 6 cakes split in 2 shoeboxes? That should come out to more than 5 grams dry per cake. Nothing wrong with that.
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Re: Noob here!(Shoebox Update) [Re: MysticMycologist]
    #27730235 - 04/11/22 12:54 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

I do have some Agar I made using pastywhites tek & that's what I had planned on doing. Got my eye on the fat one toward the back left in the top pic. Yes, TheTao 3 pint cakes to each shoebox.


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Re: Noob here!(Shoebox Update) [Re: The Holy Reality]
    #27730392 - 04/11/22 03:24 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

Looks like you did GREAT for your first run. Just get a clone from the biggest shroom from the biggest cluster and run it again. Wait til you eat some, you'll forget all about the numbers, even though you did great.

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Re: Noob here!(Shoebox Update) [Re: Bigworm] * 2
    #27771543 - 05/10/22 05:20 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Just a final update to close my first shroom grow thread. Started with 18 pint BRF cakes inoculated with a golden teacher MSS. Shredded 9 to shoeboxes(3 per box) & fruited the other 9 in a water tub. Ended up with 65g cracker dried shrooms total. Shit I couldn't be more happy. Thanks to all the awesome tek's member's posted on this site that I used. I haven't tried shrooms in 30 yrs so my tolerance is probably low but I did grind up some in a coffee grinder and used the lemon tea tek with 1g dried. Potency ain't bad at all. I think 2-3g would give me all I could handle. By the way I did get a good spore print that I'm going to transfer to Agar.


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    #27771851 - 05/10/22 08:24 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

It sounds like you did really well on your first run. Enjoy the fruits of your labor!

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Re: Noob here!(Shoebox Update) [Re: Bigworm]
    #27771912 - 05/10/22 09:09 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Fellow noob here as well. Two random questions --

1) How many spore syringes would one buy for an initial grow?

2) do syringes go bad? Are there specific storage suggestions?

Plan to do agar at some point but get feet wet with spore syringe first.

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    #27772105 - 05/11/22 12:27 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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Fellow noob here as well. Two random questions --

1) How many spore syringes would one buy for an initial grow?

2) do syringes go bad? Are there specific storage suggestions?

Plan to do agar at some point but get feet wet with spore syringe first.




If your using a syringe, I assume your making PF jars? That would be the best way to start with a syringe. 1 or 2 syringes should be enough for 12-24 jars. Spore syringes will last a while. Store in a cool dark place or in the fridge and they can remain viable for years.


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Re: Noob here!(Shoebox Update) [Re: MysticMycologist]
    #27772347 - 05/11/22 07:41 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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Babalugats said:
Fellow noob here as well. Two random questions --

1) How many spore syringes would one buy for an initial grow?

2) do syringes go bad? Are there specific storage suggestions?

Plan to do agar at some point but get feet wet with spore syringe first.




If your using a syringe, I assume your making PF jars? That would be the best way to start with a syringe. 1 or 2 syringes should be enough for 12-24 jars. Spore syringes will last a while. Store in a cool dark place or in the fridge and they can remain viable for years.




Thanks so much!

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Re: Noob here!(Shoebox Update) [Re: The Holy Reality]
    #27772753 - 05/11/22 02:50 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Very solid for a first grow! Keep up the good work :thumbup:

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