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Easy growing vs potency.
    #2770858 - 06/07/04 07:01 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Wow, haven't posted here in nearly a year and a half.  :blush:

Simple questions, speculating opinions need not reply.

What is the best strain of psyilocybe mushrooms to cultivate in doors, on seed (finch seed, or some other form of seed).  Of course my friend wants it to be a reliable strain, easy to fruit, etc, etc. But also potent (will end up as dry fruits, if that has any bearing).

Which strain is the best trade off here? My friend would attempt Azures or Cyans, however I don't think my friend is experienced enough to yield a 'productive' grow from them.  Last time my friend grew was probably two years ago with Tazmanians and B+'s, both of which did very well.

Also, last time my friend was in the loop the PF technique was reigning supreme, which is what my friend did, but this time around my friend is looking for a somewhat largescale bulk indoor method.  After colonization my friend plans to make casings.

Any thoughts or suggestions are welcome regarding both my friend's questions.


Edited by TripsAreForKids (06/07/04 07:17 AM)


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Re: Easy growing vs potency. [Re: TripsAreForKids]
    #2770908 - 06/07/04 08:08 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Potency is a tough call. Substrain to substrain, cubes may vary... so you could have two different b+ substrains that have drastically different potency.

I'd suggest Orissa India. Not only does it grow very large on bulk substrates, it is a very fast colonizer as well. I'd say the potency is impressive... but, with cubes, potency is in the eye of the beholder.


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Re: Easy growing vs potency. [Re: Rose]
    #2770942 - 06/07/04 09:04 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

So my friends thinking, 1/2 b+'s, 1/4 Taz, 1/4 Orissa's.

Will all the above do well on wild bird seed?  Finch seed maybe? Or even popcorn seed? My friend is kinda partial to small seeds for substrate and casing using vermiculite, though those details will be pounded out later.

My friend thanks you for your attention, btw.  :smile:


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Re: Easy growing vs potency. [Re: TripsAreForKids]
    #2770960 - 06/07/04 09:27 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Ya they will all do fine, if you are casing or spawning bulk!


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Re: Easy growing vs potency. [Re: Jopo]
    #2770980 - 06/07/04 09:49 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

My friend will be casing the end colonized substrate.  He also used the term 'bulk' loosely in the first message.  Anything in large quantity is bulk in his eyes.  :crazy:


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Re: Easy growing vs potency. [Re: TripsAreForKids]
    #2771145 - 06/07/04 11:14 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: Easy growing vs potency. [Re: matts]
    #2771175 - 06/07/04 11:34 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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I haven't noticed a potency loss with easy-to-grow methods... only bulk loss.




I'm confused as to what you mean by bulk loss. ?


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Re: Easy growing vs potency. [Re: TripsAreForKids]
    #2771236 - 06/07/04 12:05 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: Easy growing vs potency. [Re: matts]
    #2771253 - 06/07/04 12:16 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: Easy growing vs potency. [Re: matts]
    #2771278 - 06/07/04 12:29 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Bluing has nothing to do with potency


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Re: Easy growing vs potency. [Re: IfIWereARichMan]
    #2771301 - 06/07/04 12:37 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: Easy growing vs potency. [Re: matts]
    #2771312 - 06/07/04 12:41 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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matts said:
from a mycobag i would expect maybe half an ounce dried, but from a casing that i make i can expect 2 ounces... the cost is roughly the same for the two, but one requires more advanced cultivation techniques and is hard for a newbie




That still explains nothing about what you meant by 'bulk loss'.

My friend's familiar with cultivation and mycology, just a bit out of touch.  :thumbup:


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Re: Easy growing vs potency. [Re: TripsAreForKids]
    #2771404 - 06/07/04 01:16 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Hey Trips hows your squirelle doin?


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Re: Easy growing vs potency. [Re: Jopo]
    #2771509 - 06/07/04 01:43 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: Easy growing vs potency. [Re: Jopo]
    #2771522 - 06/07/04 01:45 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Jopo said:
Hey Trips hows your squirelle doin?




We released it probably 2 years ago. :frown:


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Edited by TripsAreForKids (06/07/04 02:42 PM)


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Re: Easy growing vs potency. [Re: matts]
    #2771532 - 06/07/04 01:46 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

matts said:
BULK
bulk = a lot of mushrooms

POTENCY
potency = more concentrated chemical




Gee Mr. Wizard...

The term bulk loss still doesn't seem too open to cognitive reasoning, but thanks for the explanation.


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Re: Easy growing vs potency. [Re: TripsAreForKids]
    #2771586 - 06/07/04 02:01 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: Easy growing vs potency. [Re: matts]
    #2771607 - 06/07/04 02:06 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I wasn't being an ass I was replying to your condescending tone.  :thumbup:

I told you thanks for the information and paid you my respects.  There's nothing more for me to say...

And I don't think there's much nicer of a way to ask for something to be cleared up than how I asked.  :wink:


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Re: Easy growing vs potency. [Re: TripsAreForKids]
    #2771686 - 06/07/04 02:37 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: Easy growing vs potency. [Re: matts]
    #2771737 - 06/07/04 02:59 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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matts said:
In my experience, it is indeed an indication of potency.




How would an erowid link change your mind? Theres also an old thread that has a good amount of discussion about bluing in it.


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