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Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate * 7
    #27707229 - 03/24/22 05:05 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton

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Former US President Donald Trump has sued Hillary Clinton, the Democrats, their lawyers, former FBI employees and everyone connected to the “Steele Dossier” for conspiracy to falsely accuse him of “collusion” with Russia in 2016, and undermining his presidency afterwards.





Choose your favorite news source to read more about it.


This was all just a great hoax, as I said there was nothing before the election.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27707391 - 03/24/22 07:40 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

It seems like lawyers are taking his ego for a ride again.

Imagine if he got sued for all of the dumb shit he claimed over the years.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: christopera] * 3
    #27707441 - 03/24/22 08:30 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

We'll see.  From the sounds of the Durham investigation, Hillary was not only pushing false information, but there is growing evidence she pushed a narrative that was known to be false.  If that turns out to be true, I say "lock her up!".

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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 2
    #27707494 - 03/24/22 09:08 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

The pot calling the kettle black

And around and around we go
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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 2
    #27707497 - 03/24/22 09:11 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Lol , do you snort big fat lines of batshit for breakfast ?
  There's no evidence of any crime in Durhams investigation .


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Psilynut2] * 3
    #27707574 - 03/24/22 10:02 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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Lol , do you snort big fat lines of batshit for breakfast ?
  There's no evidence of any crime in Durhams investigation .



No, I read the news for breakfast.  Apparently, you missed this:

Authorities Arrest Analyst Who Contributed to Steele Dossier
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An analyst who was a key contributor to Democratic-funded opposition research into possible links between Donald J. Trump and Russia was arrested on Thursday and charged with lying to the F.B.I. about his sources.
The analyst, Igor Danchenko, was a primary researcher for claims that went into the so-called Steele dossier, a compendium of rumors and unproven assertions suggesting that Mr. Trump and his 2016 campaign were compromised by and conspiring with Russian intelligence officials to help him defeat Hillary Clinton.




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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27707643 - 03/24/22 11:10 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Was there evidence of a crime in Mueller's Russia investigation ?


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 4
    #27707706 - 03/25/22 01:03 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Yea, don't be shocked if the lawsuit doesn't produce results. America is arranged so the rich and the political elite are never held accountable for their actions. (Cutting edge thinking, I know.)

Donald Trump will cash in whatever he can make from this publicity while Hilary Clinton remains untouched. If you think this is anything other than a publicity stunt, then I'd like to sell you some volcano insurance.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27708139 - 03/25/22 01:10 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton

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Former US President Donald Trump has sued Hillary Clinton, the Democrats, their lawyers, former FBI employees and everyone connected to the “Steele Dossier” for conspiracy to falsely accuse him of “collusion” with Russia in 2016, and undermining his presidency afterwards.





Choose your favorite news source to read more about it.


This was all just a great hoax, as I said there was nothing before the election.



Lol, that suit is going nowhere fast.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #27709575 - 03/26/22 02:45 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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Lol, that suit is going nowhere fast.



Glad you're willing to acknowledge that nothing will likely happen to America's political elite (those who rat them out are the ones that get in trouble, like Assange, Snowden, etc.)

We now have evidence suggesting Russia-Gate was a fabricated story, whether anyone gets in trouble for it or not.  And regardless, we still have no evidence that it was a true story.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27709577 - 03/26/22 02:45 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

It's not about political elite.  It's about a frivolous lawsuit.  Anyone he sued, it would have been the same outcome...


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Enlil]
    #27709595 - 03/26/22 03:01 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

You know the law better than I do.  Is lying about your political opponents ok in America?


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27709602 - 03/26/22 03:05 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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Was there evidence of a crime in Mueller's Russia investigation ?




  You know cause there were 34 people who plead guilty . ....


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Psilynut2]
    #27709668 - 03/26/22 04:16 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Source, or make believe?  Only 7 plead guilty and not one was for colluding with Russia.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 3
    #27709674 - 03/26/22 04:24 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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Is lying about your political opponents ok in America?





Well, I don't know if it's okay, but it has occurred in literally every political campaign since 1789.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #27709716 - 03/26/22 05:23 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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Source, or make believe?  Only 7 plead guilty and not one was for colluding with Russia.


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  Oh right , silly me it was 34 people indicted , just like Dancheko, from the Durham investigation .
Well I guess people who plead innocent are irrelevant and my original statement stands , no evidence .  Glad I could clear that up for you .


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27709775 - 03/26/22 06:43 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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You know the law better than I do.  Is lying about your political opponents ok in America?



You have a very unique definition of lying.  We've been over this before. 

But to answer your question, lying is okay sometimes and not others.  Whether it's okay or not really isn't relevant to whether it's actionable as a lawsuit, though.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Enlil]
    #27710131 - 03/27/22 04:58 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Lol Trump is a loser


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Enlil]
    #27710191 - 03/27/22 07:02 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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It's not about political elite.  It's about a frivolous lawsuit.  Anyone he sued, it would have been the same outcome...




I think it’s both.

Trump and Clinton are the two most despised presidential candidates in modern history, with their own widely accepted skeletons, and neither will ever face any sort of retribution from the federal government because it doesn’t want to set that precedent.

And trump loves lawsuits and frivolity, so that part isn’t surprising.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Enlil]
    #27710478 - 03/27/22 12:20 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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You know the law better than I do.  Is lying about your political opponents ok in America?



You have a very unique definition of lying.  We've been over this before.



Apparently I have the same definition as the Government, as they've already arrested Igor Danchenko for lying.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27711002 - 03/27/22 09:49 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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We'll see.  From the sounds of the Durham investigation, Hillary was not only pushing false information, but there is growing evidence she pushed a narrative that was known to be false.  If that turns out to be true, I say "lock her up!".

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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: koods]
    #27711090 - 03/27/22 11:33 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)



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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27711095 - 03/27/22 11:45 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Rambling nonsense


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: koods]
    #27711423 - 03/28/22 11:01 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

I believe Trump has initiated more lawsuits and been sued himself more than all previous Presidents combined.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Brian Jones]
    #27711488 - 03/28/22 12:17 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Would not surprise me at all.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #27711579 - 03/28/22 01:44 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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Judge finds Trump 'more likely than not' committed felony obstruction in effort to overturn election




https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/judge-finds-trump-committed-felony-obstruction-effort-overturn/story%3fid=83721530


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: ONE OZ SLUG]
    #27711858 - 03/28/22 05:59 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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America is arranged so the rich and the political elite are never held accountable for their actions.




Many millionaires & billionaires have been sentenced to prison.

But that fact interferes with the fun associated with demonization.

"The system is rigged" is a like a religious belief for many.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #27711877 - 03/28/22 06:12 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Lol that was a central element of Trumps campaign in 2016. The system is rigged and only I can fix it.



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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: koods]
    #27711891 - 03/28/22 06:22 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Donald Trump claimed the criminal justice system is rigged?

Of course we've all heard the "systemic racism" story . . .

People try to tell me blacks are still slaves.

I guess I'm showing my white rage.  Again.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #27712067 - 03/28/22 08:29 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Yes. He was constantly complaining about Hillary getting away with shit because the system was rigged. You have to be kidding me.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: koods] * 2
    #27712510 - 03/29/22 06:57 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

I think RJ wanted to change the subject. But changing it to that was quite bizzare.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27717624 - 04/02/22 08:41 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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Enlil said:
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
You know the law better than I do.  Is lying about your political opponents ok in America?



You have a very unique definition of lying.  We've been over this before.



Apparently I have the same definition as the Government, as they've already arrested Igor Danchenko for lying.


the Clintons are untouchable alot of these people are wasting money an time.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Mach z 800]
    #27717656 - 04/02/22 09:14 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

I think at a certain point , after like 40 years or so when the best you've come up with is the guy got a blowjob from his secretary,  you kinda have to admit there just isn't anything there .


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Enlil]
    #27788247 - 05/22/22 02:10 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

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Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton

"Former US President Donald Trump has sued Hillary Clinton, the Democrats, their lawyers, former FBI employees and everyone connected to the 'Steele Dossier' for conspiracy to falsely accuse him of 'collusion' with Russia in 2016, and undermining his presidency afterwards."


[url=https://www.google.com/search?q=Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate]Choose your favorite news source[/url] to read more about it.


This was all just a great hoax, as I said there was nothing before the election.



Lol, that suit is going nowhere fast.



Glad you're willing to acknowledge that nothing will likely happen to America's political elite (those who rat them out are the ones that get in trouble, like Assange, Snowden, etc.)

We now have evidence suggesting Russia-Gate was a fabricated story, whether anyone gets in trouble for it or not.  And regardless, we still have no evidence that it was a true story.



It's not about political elite.  It's about a frivolous lawsuit.  Anyone he sued, it would have been the same outcome...



It looks like the lawsuit did indeed have merit.



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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27788255 - 05/22/22 02:11 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Okay?


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27788274 - 05/22/22 02:21 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

What makes you think it has merit?


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Enlil]
    #27788294 - 05/22/22 02:44 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

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What makes you think it has merit?



Did you not watch the video above or this one?


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27788367 - 05/22/22 03:37 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Enlil is a lawyer and you link him to a jimmy dore video?

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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: koods]
    #27788372 - 05/22/22 03:38 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

You don't think Lawyers are smart enough to understand?


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27788375 - 05/22/22 03:40 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

I don’t think jimmy dore is smart enough.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: koods]
    #27788384 - 05/22/22 03:46 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Lucky for enlil, Jimmy Dore presented evidence from other lawyers.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27788441 - 05/22/22 04:21 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

You still haven't answered my question.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #27788507 - 05/22/22 05:26 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Michael Sussman is currently on trial for making a false statement to the FBI when he told them he wasn't working for anyone when he reported that the Trump Organization had been in contact with Russia’s Alfa Bank.

Except he was working for Hillary, and she is the one who approved leaking this story to them, which turned out to be fake.  Sussman even billed Hillary for the time he spent leaking the story to the FBI.  After the story was leaked, she then Tweeted about it.

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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27788515 - 05/22/22 05:31 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

A problem? I asked you what makes you think trumps lawsuit has merit, and you're talking about some criminal case. I don't see how anything you said makes the Civil suit meritorious.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27788558 - 05/22/22 06:09 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

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Michael Sussman is currently on trial for making a false statement to the FBI when he told them he wasn't working for anyone when he reported that the Trump Organization had been in contact with Russia’s Alfa Bank.

Except he was working for Hillary, and she is the one who approved leaking this story to them, which turned out to be fake.  Sussman even billed Hillary for the time he spent leaking the story to the FBI.  After the story was leaked, she then Tweeted about it.

You don't think there's a problem with that?




Why isn’t trump suing Susmann? You think people should be held accountable for someone else’s actions? If Susmann knew the story was false, then he committed fraud by charging Clinton. I don’t know why you think Clinton is to blame for her lawyers unscrupulous behavior. Oh wait you’re a partisan hack, that’s why.

Im also under the impression that defamation in the context of political discourse is almost impossible to litigate. I don’t think tweeting about something her lawyer told her even comes remotely close to it


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: koods]
    #27788570 - 05/22/22 06:16 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Trump is suing Hillary Clinton, the Democrats, their lawyers, former FBI employees and everyone connected to the 'Steele Dossier' for conspiracy to falsely accuse him of 'collusion' with Russia in 2016.

I don't understand how this isn't relevant.  :shrug:


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27788582 - 05/22/22 06:23 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

What sussman told the fbi is irrelevant. Statements to law enforcement aren't subject to defamation claims


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Enlil]
    #27788590 - 05/22/22 06:26 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Yes, but since Hillary had Sussman spread false information to defame Trump, wouldn't that be relevant?


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27788592 - 05/22/22 06:27 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

I think Trump would have to prove that the people involved knew what they were saying was false. The problem for Trump is there was plenty of circumstantial evidence that there was collusion.

The moment Trump asked Russia for help finding Hillary’s emails, he made the accusations plausible. And plausible accusations are not libel



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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27788598 - 05/22/22 06:32 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

If true,  relevant... still doesn't mean his case has merit though. You said his case had merit as if some smoking gun was found. This is all old news.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #27788694 - 05/22/22 07:59 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Even if it did have merit, it’s not like they’re gonna rule in favor of trump and vindicate this years long rigging hoax. Hell, the only reason his stupid ass isn’t behind bars is that the system will not implicate itself.

Neither Clinton nor Trump will ever go to jail despite their obvious crimes and folks should be mature enough to accept that.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #27788795 - 05/22/22 09:39 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

I'm not sure who "they" are in your post. Are you implying that a federal district judge is part of some grand government conspiracy?


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27789092 - 05/23/22 06:35 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

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We'll see.  From the sounds of the Durham investigation, Hillary was not only pushing false information, but there is growing evidence she pushed a narrative that was known to be false.  If that turns out to be true, I say "lock her up!".

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    #27789193 - 05/23/22 08:39 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

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I'm not sure who "they" are in your post. Are you implying that a federal district judge is part of some grand government conspiracy?




I’m implying that judicial proceedings involving members of the ruling class are highly political.


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So your implying there's a conspiracy ?


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    #27789386 - 05/23/22 11:54 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Here's the latest:
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Everyone knows that politics is a contact sport and “dirty tricks” and “October Surprises” are routine ploys. But most of these result from opposition research that uncovers information linked to some true fact, such as a DUI arrest, an extramarital affair, a youthful indiscretion, or a cringeworthy photo with some undesirable person. 

The Sussmann trial is helping to document a different approach by the Clinton campaign. According to Durham, they simply made up a stunning scale of false allegations and disinformation, unprecedented in presidential politics, in their attempt to sway the election...




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So your implying there's a conspiracy ?




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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #27790508 - 05/24/22 10:13 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Hillary Clinton is untouchable trump dosent have a chance.


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    #27794488 - 05/26/22 10:43 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

I lost count, but there are at least a dozen motions to dismiss that case.  My guess is that there won't be a whole lot of case left within a couple of months.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Enlil]
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I wonder how many of Trump's several thousand lawsuits ever made it to a courtroom. The ones that he initiated are probably just to get a press release


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    #27794875 - 05/27/22 09:33 AM (1 year, 7 months ago)

"made it to a courtroom?"  Probably most.  I mean, getting into a courtroom is easy.  Getting to trial is a whole other thing, though.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Enlil]
    #27794915 - 05/27/22 10:12 AM (1 year, 7 months ago)

What does the first consist of? Do lawyers from each side have to show up there?


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Depends.  Even in a motion to dismiss brought early in a case, there's often a hearing.  That hearing happens in court.  Nowadays, it's often done by zoom, but it's still in court.

On a side note, a different Trump lawsuit was just dismissed today by a different federal judge.


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    #27803661 - 06/03/22 02:58 AM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Falcon doesn’t want to talk about this anymore


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: koods] * 1
    #27804156 - 06/03/22 12:24 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Again, I'm on a two week cruise and am not posting as much.

The whole Trump-Russia collusion (Russia Gate) scandal turned out to be fake, and anyone who thought otherwise is looking pretty dumb right about now.

Previously I agreed Hillary wouldn't get in trouble for this.

The verdict doesn't change the fact that the information Sussman turned over to the FBI about Trump's ties to Alpha Bank was also just another nothing burger.


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    #27804627 - 06/03/22 06:17 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Today I learned that one Pence's aids knew Trump was going to publicly turn on him for not going along with his election conspiracy and this would create a risk to his safety . The day after he supposedly informed the secret service of this , Trumps supporters assaulted the capital with hang Mike Pence signs .
    Your mad about Hillary lying about some shit during a campaign even though she lost , Im mad because your guy staged a coupe and tried to kill his right hand man .  Hell of a contrast eh comrade ?


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Your mad about Hillary lying about some shit during a campaign even though she lost , Im mad because your guy staged a coupe and tried to kill his right hand man .  Hell of a contrast eh comrade ?



First of all, Trump is most certainly not my guy.  Second, what evidence do you have that Trump tried to kill Pence?  Sounds like make believe to me.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27804962 - 06/03/22 09:51 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

He went to Trump tower and talked to Trump personally. Isn't that how you do it?


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    #27805486 - 06/04/22 09:34 AM (1 year, 7 months ago)

That's not what happened , I went to Trump's hotel and met a pedo  in a bar and he gave me a ride to the airport .  On the way the there he showed me a video of a washed up comedian who laid out all the evidence . I would show you guys but I don't know know to post TikTok videos here . If someone shows me I will . Do you have a TikTok account?


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Lol....as in literally.


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    #27806230 - 06/04/22 09:36 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Hey buddy, welcome back!  What's it been, like over a year?

It'll be interesting to see if anyone gets in trouble for this (I doubt it), but at least we know the Trump-Russia collusion story was all just a hoax.


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    #27806236 - 06/04/22 09:42 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

YOU know that.


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As does Mueller and the team who investigated Trump.


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    #27806453 - 06/05/22 12:41 AM (1 year, 7 months ago)

That’s make believe


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    #27806832 - 06/05/22 10:31 AM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Have they found something new I'm not aware of?


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    #27806909 - 06/05/22 11:51 AM (1 year, 7 months ago)

We've had evidence of collusion for years. It's patently obvious that there was collusion


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Anything illegal that you're aware of that he should have gotten in trouble for?


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Not collusion related. Collusion isn't a crime.


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The mainstream media forgot to mention that while the Mueller investigation was their top story, until Mueller finally found nothing to charge Trump with causimg Rachael Maddow to cry.


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    #27808751 - 06/06/22 07:11 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Source?  Or make believe?


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    #27809067 - 06/06/22 11:15 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

The article says she almost cried, but the videos showed no crying at all. You have posted make believe. Cope.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27809068 - 06/06/22 11:16 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

How many of the mainstream media has to not say that collusion isn't a crime for it to be true that the mainstream media didn't mention it?  That article you posted is a tangent. I recall a bunch of them affirming that it wasn't a crime.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: falcon]
    #27809347 - 06/07/22 07:00 AM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Mueller was charged to investigate "any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump".  The media simply called it "collusion".

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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27809399 - 06/07/22 08:01 AM (1 year, 7 months ago)

I don't see anything in that link that supports your claim that they forgot to mention it.  Do they have to mention it every time the word "collusion" is used.  Is the fact that collusion isn't a crime even news?


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27809569 - 06/07/22 11:04 AM (1 year, 7 months ago)

The investigation wasn't about collusion.  It specifically said it wasn't.


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I specifically quoted what it was about.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27809637 - 06/07/22 12:17 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

The mueller investigation involved more than just collaboration between Russia and the Trump campaign

Here’s the official title: “Report On The Investigation Into Russian Interference In The 2016 Presidential Election”

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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27809668 - 06/07/22 12:51 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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Source?  Or make believe?



https://dailycaller.com/2019/03/22/rachel-maddow-tears-mueller-report/




Make believe. Nowhere in that video does she cry or even look like she’s going to cry.


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The mueller investigation involved more than just collaboration between Russia and the Trump campaign

Here’s the official title: “Report On The Investigation Into Russian Interference In The 2016 Presidential Election”

Why do you always have to spin and lie?



That was the title of the final report.  I gave you the original main objective.

When Mueller realized he struck out on his original objective, he renamed the final report to something that gave the appearance of limited success, but that turned out to be another failure as well.


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    #27814422 - 06/11/22 09:42 AM (1 year, 7 months ago)

I could imagine Russia not needing to work very hard to get Trump to work for them “officially” because they probably correctly assumed that his dumb arrogant ass would inadvertently end up helping them naturally just by being himself anyways.  A couple invisible love taps here a couple well placed well timed choice words there and that was all that was needed.  Anything else was just the Cherry on top.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #27814435 - 06/11/22 10:03 AM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Imagine that.  Someone interested in getting along with other world powers.  No wonder he was hated.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27814451 - 06/11/22 10:21 AM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Any amount of communication if undertaken honorably in the spirit of unity & harmony is all around more agreeable than whatever we’ve got going on today.  That’s for damn sure.  Idk how well Trump fit the bill for that though.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27814466 - 06/11/22 10:36 AM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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Imagine that.  Someone interested in getting along with other world powers.  No wonder he was hated.



How does that jibe with Trump’s antagonistic relationship with Canada, and many other nations? He literally branded us a national security threat to the USA.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #27814484 - 06/11/22 10:54 AM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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Imagine that.  Someone interested in getting along with other world powers.  No wonder he was hated.



How does that jibe with Trump’s antagonistic relationship with Canada, and many other nations? He literally branded us a national security threat to the USA.



Context.  He was trying to protect America’s steel and aluminum industries, so we wouldn't become reliant on foreign production.

I don't even like Trump (see my signature), but he is better than Biden.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #27814514 - 06/11/22 11:23 AM (1 year, 7 months ago)

You literally voted for Trump after a decades long run of voting Green, and I'm sure you'll vote for him again if he runs another time. Just fucking drop the whole "I don't even like Trump" schtick because everyone here knows you're a fanboy.

Regardless, branding a longstanding ally as a threat in order to unilaterally push through one-sided economic policy that flies in the face of pre-existing agreements isn't "getting along with other world powers" - that's an antagonistic approach, even with your context.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #27814528 - 06/11/22 11:36 AM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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You literally voted for Trump after a decades long run of voting Green, and I'm sure you'll vote for him again if he runs another time. Just fucking drop the whole "I don't even like Trump" schtick because everyone here knows you're a fanboy.



I'd have easily voted for Bernie over Trump, but Trump was better than Biden.  No, I'm definitely not a fanboy, I just add context to your many deceptive posts.

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Regardless, branding a longstanding ally as a threat in order to unilaterally push through one-sided economic policy that flies in the face of pre-existing agreements isn't "getting along with other world powers" - that's an antagonistic approach, even with your context.



The reason the world is struggling economically right now is because we've become very reliant on one another, and it's not easy to just cut one country off without causing harm if you've become dependent on that country's products.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27814544 - 06/11/22 11:44 AM (1 year, 7 months ago)

What was deceptive about asking how Trump’s well-documented antagonistic approach to Canada-USA diplomacy jibes with your claim that Trump was "interested in getting along with other world powers"?

Even with your context, his approach was antagonistic rather than cooperative or collaborative. Antagonism is not "getting along with others".


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #27814567 - 06/11/22 12:13 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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What was deceptive about asking how Trump’s well-documented antagonistic approach to Canada-USA diplomacy jibes with your claim that Trump was "interested in getting along with other world powers"?



This had nothing to do with "getting along with Canada".  It was about protecting America’s steel and aluminum industries, so we wouldn't become reliant on foreign production.

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Even with your context, his approach was antagonistic rather than cooperative or collaborative. Antagonism is not "getting along with others".



If that's how you want to view tariffs, fine.  But I think "antagonistic relationship" is too strong.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27814612 - 06/11/22 12:46 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

It wasn't just tariffs - Trump started a trade war with Canada, that included  rhetoric claiming cooperation with a long-standing ally posed a national security threat, and that unilateral tariffs would continue to be imposed until Canada renegotiated "one-sided" trade deals that "harm" the American people. That is an antagonistic approach, not a cooperative one.

That's not even my own choice of words. Trump’s trade policy has since been examined with the benefit of hindsight, and his claims about national security and protecting the American public fell flat, while the antagonistic approach has left longstanding damage to Canada-USA diplomatic relations.

Stop chugging that Trump Kool-Aid for just a moment:

Did Trump’s tariffs benefit American workers and national security?
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Did tariffs help the US negotiate better trade agreements?

When negotiating trade agreements, countries want partners whose policies are stable and predictable, with the goal of establishing a long-term, win-win partnership. Trump’s eagerness to resort to tariffs, including in relations with close allies, has made the U.S. a less desirable trade partner for other countries.





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Did tariffs improve American national security?

The national security case for tariffs on steel and aluminum is even murkier: while there may be a case for ensuring domestic production capacity for these commodities, it isn’t clear tariffs are the best instrument (or that they even achieve this goal). These tariffs antagonized many of America’s closest security partners, particularly Canada, which undermined efforts to cultivate a broader multilateral alliance to challenge China. Moreover, the Trump administration’s frequent recourses to national security on flimsy grounds will make it more difficult for the U.S. to push back when other countries cloak protectionism in tenuous appeals to national security.




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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #27814643 - 06/11/22 01:25 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Once again, if you want to view tariffs as antagonistic, fine.  I never even gave my opinion about tariffs as a means for protecting America’s steel and aluminum industries; I was simply adding context to a deceptive statement.

If you have to call it "chugging that Trump Kool-Aid" to make yourself feel better about it, that's a shame.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27814679 - 06/11/22 02:01 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Did I say tariffs are antagonistic, or did I refer to "Trump’s antagonistic relationship with Canada"? An antagonistic approach that included, but was not limited to, tariffs.

Trump wasn't "someone interested in getting along with other world powers" - that's a fanboy lie. Canada-USA diplomatic relations during his presidency provide a clear example. Duck out of here with your accusations of deceptive statements, when you're out here pretending I'm talking about economic policy rather than Trump’s antagonistic rhetoric underpinning that economic policy - antagonistic rhetoric to such an extent that its been evaluated academically: Verbal Aggression Between Allies: Canada in Donald Trump’s Trade War Rhetoric


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #27814689 - 06/11/22 02:12 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

So your article confirms exactly what I said.  :shrug:

Trump has always been criticized for going against establishment policy.

Edit:  As I've already said, if you want to call tariffs intended to return jobs to America and protect our vital industries antagonistic, fine.  I was just adding the context that you omitted.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27814740 - 06/11/22 03:00 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Stop lying.

I never said tariffs are inherently antagonistic - that's a red herring you introduced to this exchange. I referred to "Trump’s antagonistic relationship with Canada" that contrasted with your lie that Trump is "someone interested in getting along with other world powers."

You don't adopt an antagonistic stance if you're interested in getting along with others - and that entire article is discussing Trump’s aggressive and antagonistic approach to Canada-USA diplomatic relations.

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So your article confirms exactly what I said.  :shrug:




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You'll have to better explain what it is you think I don't understand.  Generic comments like the above are no better than 'you're a big fat poo poo head'."




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Remember when Trump literally called Haiti and African nations "shithole countries?"  I guess they don't count as "world powers," so they're fair game


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Or his antagonistic stance towards Cuba and Iran - in both cases, reversing the limited diplomatic advances that had occurred during the previous presidential regime, and once again accompanied with aggressive rhetoric.


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Stop lying.

I never said tariffs are inherently antagonistic - that's a red herring you introduced to this exchange. I referred to "Trump’s antagonistic relationship with Canada" that contrasted with your lie that Trump is "someone interested in getting along with other world powers."

You don't adopt an antagonistic stance if you're interested in getting along with others - and that entire article is discussing Trump’s aggressive and antagonistic approach to Canada-USA diplomatic relations.

Stop lying.



So if it wasn't tariffs that were inherently antagonistic, what was it then?  All I saw in the article you gave me was tariffs and protectionist policies meant to help the US.


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Remember when Trump literally called Haiti and African nations "shithole countries?"  I guess they don't count as "world powers," so they're fair game





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Remember when Trump literally called Haiti and African nations "shithole countries?"  I guess they don't count as "world powers," so they're fair game




Do you consider them world powers?  :shrug:

This started because I said "Imagine that.  Someone interested in getting along with other world powers.  No wonder he was hated."


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    #27814955 - 06/11/22 05:39 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

He was hated because he's a racist blowhard who made the country look stupid and weak.


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Hated for being interested in getting along with other world powers... Giving off some serious 'they hate us for our freedom' vibes.




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He was hated because he's a racist blowhard who made the country look stupid and weak.



According to The Blind Ass's remark that started this, he was hated for being interested in getting along with Russia.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #27815036 - 06/11/22 06:32 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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...they (Russia) probably correctly assumed that his dumb arrogant ass would inadvertently end up helping them naturally just by being himself anyways.



Why was he upset that Trump would help them?  Is there a rule that you always must be opposed to Russia?


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #27815147 - 06/11/22 07:54 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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I could imagine Russia not needing to work very hard to get Trump to work for them “officially” because they probably correctly assumed that his dumb arrogant ass would inadvertently end up helping them naturally just by being himself anyways.  A couple invisible love taps here a couple well placed well timed choice words there and that was all that was needed.  Anything else was just the Cherry on top.




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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #27815167 - 06/11/22 08:04 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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I don't see that remark, please quote it rather than put words in other people's moufs.




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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #27816476 - 06/12/22 05:26 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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Remember when Trump literally called Haiti and African nations "shithole countries?"  I guess they don't count as "world powers," so they're fair game





A refreshing change of pace to have someone say the quiet part out loud.





Someone who thinks of other nations in terms of shthl countries should not be president of a nation, especially a world power with the largest standing military and most strike-capable nuclear arsenal

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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Asante] * 2
    #27817353 - 06/13/22 10:06 AM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Luckily we have a peacenik in the oval now with a full brain who definitely isn’t antagonizing two other nuclear powers.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #27820614 - 06/15/22 10:11 AM (1 year, 7 months ago)

So far Biden seems to be winning a war without firing a single shot/risking a single US soldier's life.

I'd say that counts as pretty peacenik. Relatively speaking, at least.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Kryptos]
    #27823693 - 06/17/22 06:17 AM (1 year, 7 months ago)

God forbid Biden gets caught getting a rimjob from some secretary..

Wonder which country would get invaded to divert the media's attention.

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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: HomelessSorcerer]
    #27823776 - 06/17/22 08:14 AM (1 year, 7 months ago)

What you think of is pretty much irrelevant.  It is hard to dispute that republicans have made it a point to build and maintain the largest standing military the world has ever known.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Enlil]
    #27823783 - 06/17/22 08:25 AM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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What you think of is pretty much irrelevant.  It is hard to dispute that republicans have made it a point to build and maintain the largest standing military the world has ever known.



Fair enough.

But as far as inducing disgust in me, that Clinton/Clark/Allbright et al combination/era takes the cake for me.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: HomelessSorcerer]
    #27824006 - 06/17/22 10:51 AM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Well, obviously. I mean, war is bad and all, but competent WOMEN in positions of POWER? Now that's really bad.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Kryptos]
    #27824031 - 06/17/22 11:08 AM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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Well, obviously. I mean, war is bad and all, but competent WOMEN in positions of POWER? Now that's really bad.



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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: HomelessSorcerer]
    #27824538 - 06/17/22 05:34 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Sir, that happens on occasion, Sir.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Kryptos]
    #27824933 - 06/17/22 09:00 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Sir, thank you for being understanding.

I can tell that you are a gentleman.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Kryptos]
    #27825448 - 06/18/22 06:33 AM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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Well, obviously. I mean, war is bad and all, but competent WOMEN in positions of POWER? Now that's really bad.




Lets stop pretending competent women exist.

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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: christopera]
    #27825721 - 06/18/22 11:59 AM (1 year, 7 months ago)


:christinanurse:  :nursegellar:


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27827606 - 06/19/22 05:40 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

That last one never gets old.  :lol:  :cheers:


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #27941881 - 09/09/22 12:08 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

This lawsuit was dismissed this week by the judge overseeing the case.


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U.S. District Judge Donald Middlebrooks seemingly mocked the lawsuit in his order of dismissal, calling the suit "difficult to summarize in a concise and cohesive manner."




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The judge said the lawsuit was rife with "glaring problems," claims that were "not warranted under existing law," and legal theories that lacked factual support.

"At its core, the problem with Plaintiff's Amended Complaint is that Plaintiff is not attempting to seek redress for any legal harm; instead, he is seeking to flaunt a two-hundred-page political manifesto outlining his grievances against those that have opposed him, and this Court is not the appropriate forum," the order said.




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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Enlil]
    #27941887 - 09/09/22 12:11 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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Lol, that suit is going nowhere fast.




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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27995267 - 10/12/22 01:30 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Authorities Arrest Analyst Who Contributed to Steele Dossier
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An analyst who was a key contributor to Democratic-funded opposition research into possible links between Donald J. Trump and Russia was arrested on Thursday and charged with lying to the F.B.I. about his sources.
The analyst, Igor Danchenko, was a primary researcher for claims that went into the so-called Steele dossier, a compendium of rumors and unproven assertions suggesting that Mr. Trump and his 2016 campaign were compromised by and conspiring with Russian intelligence officials to help him defeat Hillary Clinton.






It now gets even worse.  Turns out the FBI was willing to pay Christopher Steele $1 million if he could corroborate the Trump allegations in the Steele Dossier.

He couldn't, but it was used against Trump anyway.



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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Used how?


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27995293 - 10/12/22 01:45 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

NEW DURHAM BOMBSHELL. THEY GOT HER NOW.


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    #27995302 - 10/12/22 01:50 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

A bombshell revelation would be if Trump won a single fucking lawsuit.


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    #27995337 - 10/12/22 02:08 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Why does this Durham tool still have a job. His one and only prosecution was a total embarrassment


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Enlil]
    #27995400 - 10/12/22 02:37 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Used how?



Seriously?  You don't understand how fake stories about Trump undermined his presidency?  Not to mention all the other things that came from it, like how it was used to obtain the FISA warrants against Carter Page?


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    #27995411 - 10/12/22 02:43 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Time to move on its been six years and trump has done far worse than when he colluded with the Russians


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27995419 - 10/12/22 02:46 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Used how?



Seriously?  You don't understand how fake stories about Trump undermined his presidency?  Not to mention all the other things that came from it, like how it was used to obtain the FISA warrants against Carter Page?



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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: koods]
    #27995433 - 10/12/22 02:52 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

How did he collude with the Russia in a way that was worse?  Do you finally have evidence of something?  :popcorn:


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Enlil]
    #27995436 - 10/12/22 02:54 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Used how?



Seriously?  You don't understand how fake stories about Trump undermined his presidency?  Not to mention all the other things that came from it, like how it was used to obtain the FISA warrants against Carter Page?



So... no answer?



It was used against Trump to undermine his reputation.  Maybe I don't understand Enlil logic?


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27995584 - 10/12/22 04:37 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

His reputation oh poor baby did his feelings get hurt

He should sue... oh wait he already did and he was laughed out of court


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Used how?



Seriously?  You don't understand how fake stories about Trump undermined his presidency?  Not to mention all the other things that came from it, like how it was used to obtain the FISA warrants against Carter Page?



So... no answer?



It was used against Trump to undermine his reputation.  Maybe I don't understand Enlil logic?



Weak. You think that did more than the rape accusations? Please. Trump hasn't had a reputation to harm in decades.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Enlil]
    #27996005 - 10/12/22 08:21 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

I think there’s an argument to be made that certain stories hurt trump, but there’s also a much better argument that the media was a net benefit to trump and was a big reason he got elected president in the first place.  :shrug:


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    #28007429 - 10/20/22 05:59 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Another loss for Trump.

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We all sort of knew that happened, and now we have facts, and I think they’re only going to get deeper and deeper – and it all leads back to the Democrats, Hillary and the dirty lawyers.




-President Trump

Absolutely hilarious how he manages to be wrong about these things. His chosen positions are a leading indicator of failure. You don't even have to do research, just do the opposite of what DJ says.


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    #28046608 - 11/12/22 07:59 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

https://www.axios.com/2022/11/11/trump-clinton-lawsuit-lawyers-sanctions

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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: christopera]
    #28046749 - 11/12/22 10:12 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

The judge said it was way beyond legal incompetence, rather it was deliberately wasting the courts time for political reasons. This case like so many other trump lawsuits lacked (I believe the term is) legal standing. Where does he find these lawyers?

No matter what happens the Democrats need Trump around for two more years. If he had faded into the background, this election would have gone much better for the GOP. Some Republicans are well aware of this now. Hopefully there are still enough loyalists to keep him propped up a little longer.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Brian Jones]
    #28047663 - 11/12/22 07:59 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

I kind of called it back in post 2 of this thread. Trump is dumb and lawyers take his ego for a ride.

I agree that letting Trump take the party on for another few years is about the best thing we can hope for. It looks like Dems will retain the Senate, we can thank Trump for that.


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    #28048132 - 11/13/22 03:51 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

I know mainly Trump uses incompetent lawyers because he has this need to believe he's the smartest person in the room. That was OK for his frivolous publicity seeking lawsuits. But now he's in danger of major civil penalties and criminal convictions. Is he even capable of sensing that the situation has really changed, and will good lawyers work for him? A couple months ago he hired a reputable  lawyer (maybe for the capital riot, maybe for NY fraud case, I can't remember). He had to pay the guy 3 million up front, because nobody trusts him to pay. Reportedly he put the guy on the shelf because he wasn't saying what trump wanted to hear. At least the guy got paid.


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    #28048184 - 11/13/22 05:40 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

It seems his ego knows no bounds. I would imagine that it would catch up with him at some point. Perhaps it already is and he is managing to weather the storm somewhat, it is hard to say since he is such a crook. He will probably have to die before we actually learn anything about it.


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    #28048296 - 11/13/22 08:17 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

I think it will catch up with him sooner rather than later. His lifespan can't be predicted and his diet is terrible. I don't hate him quite enough to wish his death, but I think things are going to get so bad he won't be enjoying life.

It's going to be momentum of rapid decline. Half the GOP already wants him gone, but it will be amusing to see him run for President again. As the courts for all these civil and criminal cases see his power diminishing, they will be emboldened to dish out punishment. His ability to scare people will be gone. With his political and legal failures, his dysfunctional personality is going to get more abnormal, as he becomes aware that he literally has almost nothing left to lose.

If the Red Wave had come through he might have won in 2024, and in any case would have been influential for the rest of his life. The midterms sealed his fate.

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I know mainly Trump uses incompetent lawyers because he has this need to believe he's the smartest person in the room. That was OK for his frivolous publicity seeking lawsuits. But now he's in danger of major civil penalties and criminal convictions. Is he even capable of sensing that the situation has really changed, and will good lawyers work for him? A couple months ago he hired a reputable  lawyer (maybe for the capital riot, maybe for NY fraud case, I can't remember). He had to pay the guy 3 million up front, because nobody trusts him to pay. Reportedly he put the guy on the shelf because he wasn't saying what trump wanted to hear. At least the guy got paid.




Having incompetent lawyers is a good strategy for a client with unrealistic, irrational or illegal demands to avoid accountability. How many trump lawyers have ended up in legal trouble due to their advocacy of Trump? How many are being sued for billions? How many have been sanctioned? How many have lost their licenses to practice? A lot. Yet trump never pays any price.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Brian Jones]
    #28048824 - 11/13/22 01:21 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Dude...I might need to get a Trump 2024 sign if I'm still stuck in the middle of bumfuck nowhere when the election season starts.

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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Kryptos]
    #28148077 - 01/19/23 08:22 PM (1 year, 8 days ago)

Donald Trump and his lawyers were fined nearly $1 million today for bringing this frivolous lawsuit

https://twitter.com/klasfeldreports/status/1616257798270029825?s=46&t=ayiPbmWGLOId4VfLJeruTA

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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: koods]
    #28148109 - 01/19/23 08:51 PM (1 year, 8 days ago)

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Mr. Trumps lawyers saw no professional impediment or irony in relying upon russian intelligence as the good faith basis for their allegation.





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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: mushboy]
    #28148115 - 01/19/23 08:58 PM (1 year, 8 days ago)

We should fine Falcon for making this thread

It’s amazing how much money Donald loses suing people. Not to mention the ruined legal careers of his lawyers.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: koods] * 1
    #28148223 - 01/19/23 10:34 PM (1 year, 7 days ago)

..... like the judge stated:


The thread should have never been posted. It's inadequacy as a thread has been apparent since its posting. No reasonable poster would have filed it. Intended for Russain political purposes,  none of Falcons posts stated a cognizable legal claim.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #28148291 - 01/20/23 12:29 AM (1 year, 7 days ago)

Hillary gets $172,000 of it lol


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: koods]
    #28148408 - 01/20/23 05:11 AM (1 year, 7 days ago)

Right.

But honestly though, fuck those lawyers....the judge said as much.

I know this area is delicate, but civil  claims that are so absurd, that it is understood as unequivocal dribble should come with a severe punishment besides a sanction. Let's face it, Trump won't pay a penny directly, probably his supporters a PAC will.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #28148609 - 01/20/23 09:02 AM (1 year, 7 days ago)

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Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton

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Former US President Donald Trump has sued Hillary Clinton, the Democrats, their lawyers, former FBI employees and everyone connected to the “Steele Dossier” for conspiracy to falsely accuse him of “collusion” with Russia in 2016, and undermining his presidency afterwards.





Choose your favorite news source to read more about it.


This was all just a great hoax, as I said there was nothing before the election.




How'd that turn out for him? In addition to now being sanctioned/fined for $1M, he's also been forced to withdraw his suit against the NY AG for fear of getting smacked down again.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #28148838 - 01/20/23 11:59 AM (1 year, 7 days ago)

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It looks like the lawsuit did indeed have merit.







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A US federal court has fined former President Donald Trump and his lawyers nearly $1 million for a “frivolous” lawsuit they had filed against ex-presidential candidate Hillary Clinton. Trump had claimed that Clinton engaged in a smear campaign to undermine his chances in the 2016 US election by alleging he collaborated with Moscow.



https://www.rt.com/news/570194-trump-fined-clinton-lawsuit/


But I thought comedian and expert legal analyst Jimmy Dore thought this was going to be yuge?


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    #28148846 - 01/20/23 12:07 PM (1 year, 7 days ago)

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Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton

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Former US President Donald Trump has sued Hillary Clinton, the Democrats, their lawyers, former FBI employees and everyone connected to the “Steele Dossier” for conspiracy to falsely accuse him of “collusion” with Russia in 2016, and undermining his presidency afterwards.





Choose your favorite news source to read more about it.


This was all just a great hoax, as I said there was nothing before the election.



Lol, that suit is going nowhere fast.




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    #28148935 - 01/20/23 12:53 PM (1 year, 7 days ago)

FAL.....where are you FAL!?

.....is it time to accuse of us poo poo head stuff?


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: koods]
    #28150257 - 01/21/23 09:07 AM (1 year, 6 days ago)

She should get it.

The Clintons were broke, and had no money when Bill left office.

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Public service doesn't pay well.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #28150591 - 01/21/23 01:16 PM (1 year, 6 days ago)

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..... like the judge stated:


The thread should have never been posted. It's inadequacy as a thread has been apparent since its posting. No reasonable poster would have filed it. Intended for Russain political purposes,  none of Falcons posts stated a cognizable legal claim.



I'm not a lawyer, so I don't know what constitutes as a frivolous lawsuit.

But I'm still not aware of evidence of the Trump campaign illegally or corruptly colluding with Russia to interfere in the election.

Of course, you added the obligatory "Intended for Russain political purposes".  When there's no evidence, that's always an acceptable excuse in Democratic circles.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #28150770 - 01/21/23 03:38 PM (1 year, 6 days ago)

I wouldn't be so hard on yourself, I'd be hard on the griftstream media for fooling you.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 1
    #28150802 - 01/21/23 04:09 PM (1 year, 6 days ago)

What did they fool me about?  That they're allowed to rely on a Dossier paid for by the Clinton administration which turned out to contain fake information used to discredit Donald Trump?

Fair enough.  I didn't realize that was acceptable behavior.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #28150807 - 01/21/23 04:12 PM (1 year, 6 days ago)

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..... like the judge stated:


The thread should have never been posted. It's inadequacy as a thread has been apparent since its posting. No reasonable poster would have filed it. Intended for Russain political purposes,  none of Falcons posts stated a cognizable legal claim.



I'm not a lawyer, so I don't know what constitutes as a frivolous lawsuit.

But I'm still not aware of evidence of the Trump campaign illegally or corruptly colluding with Russia to interfere in the election.

Of course, you added the obligatory "Intended for Russain political purposes".  When there's no evidence, that's always an acceptable excuse in Democratic circles.





That was in jest, bro.
You stated the lawsuit had merit, which has been proven completely wrong. It's ok to be wrong...I have been wrong many times over for years in this sub. The difference is intellectual honesty; when you don't have that there is no reason for debate.

Do you feel the lawsuit still had merit?


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    #28150836 - 01/21/23 04:35 PM (1 year, 6 days ago)

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What did they fool me about?




Whoever the grifter was who convinced you that "the lawsuit did indeed have merit."


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    #28150879 - 01/21/23 05:26 PM (1 year, 6 days ago)

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Do you feel the lawsuit still had merit?



No, it's now clear that you can't go after someone for make believing things about you if they are protected by the establishment.

I probably should have known that before like Enlil, but now I know better.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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The establishment... You mean the established laws? How dare the legal system use established law. The absurdity!


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Kickle]
    #28151035 - 01/21/23 07:46 PM (1 year, 6 days ago)

This thread is hilarious. Fal got called out (by me) in literally the second post. Then basically everybody else called him out. Then the literal court of law called him out. Yet he's still making excuses.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: christopera] * 1
    #28151426 - 01/22/23 02:13 AM (1 year, 5 days ago)

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This thread is hilarious. Fal got called out (by me) in literally the second post. Then basically everybody else called him out. Then the literal court of law called him out. Yet he's still making excuses.



Did someone find the Steele Dossier to be true?  If not, why couldn't Trump sue?  Do you have a better reason than the one I gave?


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    #28151505 - 01/22/23 04:31 AM (1 year, 5 days ago)

Trump has to pay Hillary. Take the L dude.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Do you feel the lawsuit still had merit?



No, it's now clear that you can't go after someone for make believing things about you if they are protected by the establishment.

I probably should have known that before like Enlil, but now I know better.



Of course you can't go after someone for make believing things about you. If you could Trump would be living in a dumpster right now.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Kizzle]
    #28151653 - 01/22/23 07:57 AM (1 year, 5 days ago)

This is probably in a link earlier, but the judge's exact words were, "We are confronted by a lawsuit that should never have been filed, which was completely frivolous, both factually and legally, and which was brought in bad faith, for an improper purpose." He also said that Trump has repeatedly abused the judicial process to seek revenge against his political enemies and can not argue he was blindly following legal advice. So Trump and his chief counsel on the case were held jointly and severally liable for sanctions of nearly a million dollars.


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    #28151954 - 01/22/23 10:57 AM (1 year, 5 days ago)

Trump has weaponized the civil court room for years. He brought a lawsuit against Bill Maher for a joke that he was a born from an orangutan. His attorney filed Trumps birth certificate as proof this was not the case.

You can't make this shit up.


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Trump has weaponized the civil court room for years. He brought a lawsuit against Bill Maher for a joke that he was a born from an orangutan. His attorney filed Trumps birth certificate as proof this was not the case.

You can't make this shit up.


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Did someone find the Steele Dossier to be true?  If not, why couldn't Trump sue?  Do you have a better reason than the one I gave?



Trump has to pay Hillary. Take the L dude.



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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #28152540 - 01/22/23 05:21 PM (1 year, 5 days ago)

Here's the answer.

Trump sues, he ends up owing Hillary money.

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    #28152554 - 01/22/23 05:43 PM (1 year, 5 days ago)

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It looks like the lawsuit did indeed have merit.






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Did someone find the Steele Dossier to be true?  If not, why couldn't Trump sue?  Do you have a better reason than the one I gave?



Trump has to pay Hillary. Take the L dude.



So you can't answer my question?  I didn't think so.



Here's the answer.

Trump sues, he ends up owing Hillary money.



So you still can't answer the question?  I didn't think so.


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It looks like the lawsuit did indeed have merit.






This aged like fine wine. :chefskiss:



Maybe you can help christopera answer my question?

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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #28152583 - 01/22/23 06:03 PM (1 year, 5 days ago)

Why would I answer questions that are asked of other people? :shrug:


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    #28152586 - 01/22/23 06:04 PM (1 year, 5 days ago)

Nobody will answer your question because it's a red herring that doesn't matter.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Lynnch]
    #28152596 - 01/22/23 06:09 PM (1 year, 5 days ago)

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Nobody will answer your question because it's a red herring that doesn't matter.




30% of his questions have asked me to quote things HE has written... lol, apparently he cannot remember all his lies. 
The other 70% are exactly what you say, just feeble attempts to distract when he has no rebuttal to the point made.  It's super cringey.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Lynnch]
    #28152821 - 01/22/23 08:29 PM (1 year, 5 days ago)

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Nobody will answer your question because it's a red herring that doesn't matter.



You don't think it matters if fake news about Trump was spread and they didn't allow him to sue?  That's what this thread is about.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Ice9]
    #28152825 - 01/22/23 08:33 PM (1 year, 5 days ago)

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30% of his questions have asked me to quote things HE has written... lol, apparently he cannot remember all his lies. 
The other 70% are exactly what you say, just feeble attempts to distract when he has no rebuttal to the point made.  It's super cringey.



Can you provide an example of a question that distracts from point being discussed?  Or is this YET ANOTHER empty "poo poo head" remark?

I don't mind being called out for mistakes, except when you can't back your comment up, which for you is almost every poo poo head post you make.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 2
    #28152905 - 01/22/23 09:33 PM (1 year, 4 days ago)

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Ice9 said:
30% of his questions have asked me to quote things HE has written... lol, apparently he cannot remember all his lies. 
The other 70% are exactly what you say, just feeble attempts to distract when he has no rebuttal to the point made.  It's super cringey.



Can you provide an example of a question that distracts from point being discussed?  Or is this YET ANOTHER empty "poo poo head" remark?

I don't mind being called out for mistakes, except when you can't back your comment up, which for you is almost every poo poo head post you make.




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    #28152913 - 01/22/23 09:40 PM (1 year, 4 days ago)

Good god. I was going to make a joke that he would do that, but he beat me to it :lol:


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #28153102 - 01/23/23 02:01 AM (1 year, 4 days ago)

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Nobody will answer your question because it's a red herring that doesn't matter.



You don't think it matters if fake news about Trump was spread and they didn't allow him to sue?  That's what this thread is about.




No it isn't.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #28153156 - 01/23/23 04:08 AM (1 year, 4 days ago)

See orangutan lawsuit. I would say keep digging that hole, but alas.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #28153212 - 01/23/23 05:38 AM (1 year, 4 days ago)

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Nobody will answer your question because it's a red herring that doesn't matter.



You don't think it matters if fake news about Trump was spread and they didn't allow him to sue?  That's what this thread is about.



You just can't deal with the fact that a court has decided his lawsuit has no merit.your only answer to this is that it must be the deep state meddling. Meanwhile there are probably lots of other lawsuits that have set the precedence that made his lawsuit frivolous. Dishonest sore losers will always declare the other side must have cheated.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #28153495 - 01/23/23 09:44 AM (1 year, 4 days ago)

A former high ranking FBI official has been arrested for laundering money for a Russian oligarch. But tell us more about how the FBI is in the tank for democrats

It appears the Russians had an inside man in the FBI during the Trump Russia investigation.

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The former top FBI agent for counterintelligence in New York has been arrested with a former Russian diplomat and charged with violating U.S. sanctions on Russia by providing services to the oligarch Oleg Deripaska, federal prosecutors announced Monday.
The ex-agent, Charles McGonigal, is charged in U.S. District Court in Manhattan with another man, former Soviet and Russian diplomat Sergey Shestakov, in a five-count indictment, which also accuses them of money laundering. The alleged criminal acts occurred after McGonigal, 54, retired from the FBI in 2018.
McGonigal separately was charged Monday in federal court in Washington, D.C., in connection with accepting $225,000 in cash — while working at the FBI — from a person who had business interests in Europe who had been an employee of a foreign intelligence service.




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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 2
    #28153580 - 01/23/23 10:31 AM (1 year, 4 days ago)

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Did someone find the Steele Dossier to be true?  If not, why couldn't Trump sue?  Do you have a better reason than the one I gave?



For someone who claims to hate censorship, you sure do seem to have a dim and narrow view of the 1st amendment.

Before we even get to the procedural problems that led to this dismissal, it's important to note that public figures have a higher bar when seeking defamation claims.  Trump would have had to prove that the steele dossier story was knowingly false and created with actual malice.  He certainly couldn't prove the "knowingly false" part, as was clear in the complaint he filed.

None of that matters, of course, because Trump lost this case because he waited too long to file it.  He waited until years after the statute of limitations had run.  I promise that every single member of his legal team knew this important fact and that at least one of them told Trump as much.  Nonetheless, he pushed forward with a frivolous lawsuit that was guaranteed to lose from the very beginning.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Enlil]
    #28153586 - 01/23/23 10:38 AM (1 year, 4 days ago)

He had to take the hit. Can’t let the deep state know you’re on to them. This is all part of the plan. WIGGYWA


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Brian Jones]
    #28153685 - 01/23/23 11:43 AM (1 year, 4 days ago)

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Nobody will answer your question because it's a red herring that doesn't matter.



You don't think it matters if fake news about Trump was spread and they didn't allow him to sue?  That's what this thread is about.




No it isn't.



Yes, it is.  You should go back reread the OP.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #28153694 - 01/23/23 11:48 AM (1 year, 4 days ago)

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Nobody will answer your question because it's a red herring that doesn't matter.



You don't think it matters if fake news about Trump was spread and they didn't allow him to sue?  That's what this thread is about.



You just can't deal with the fact that a court has decided his lawsuit has no merit.your only answer to this is that it must be the deep state meddling. Meanwhile there are probably lots of other lawsuits that have set the precedence that made his lawsuit frivolous. Dishonest sore losers will always declare the other side must have cheated.



So answer the question:  "Did someone find the Steele Dossier to be true?  If not, why couldn't Trump sue?"

Nevermind, I see that Enlil just answered the question.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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You don't think it matters if fake news about Trump was spread and they didn't allow him to sue?  That's what this thread is about.




    Thats a shockingly stupid question .


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #28153968 - 01/23/23 02:29 PM (1 year, 4 days ago)

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Nobody will answer your question because it's a red herring that doesn't matter.



You don't think it matters if fake news about Trump was spread and they didn't allow him to sue?  That's what this thread is about.




No it isn't.



Yes, it is.  You should go back reread the OP.




I can read the title of the thread. The judge said it was groundless in fact and law. Your views can not change that.


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You don't think it matters if fake news about Trump was spread and they didn't allow him to sue?  That's what this thread is about.




    Thats a shockingly stupid question .



Can you explain why?  Or is "that was a poo poo head (shockingly stupid) question" all you got?


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Brian Jones]
    #28154048 - 01/23/23 03:13 PM (1 year, 4 days ago)

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I can read the title of the thread. The judge said it was groundless in fact and law. Your views can not change that.



Enlil provided a good explanation why the case was dropped.

We now know the Steele Dossier was full of fake information about Trump, and can understand why he was upset.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #28154238 - 01/23/23 05:00 PM (1 year, 4 days ago)

So what? The Steele dossier was a report written by a contractor cataloguing information he was given by various sources. Nowhere does it claim the information is accurate.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: koods]
    #28158687 - 01/26/23 04:39 PM (1 year, 1 day ago)

Pretty demanding article today in the NYT that John Durham and Bill Barr covered up some Trump financial crimes he discovered while he was special counsel.


https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/26/us/politics/durham-trump-russia-barr.html

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Mr. Barr and Mr. Durham never disclosed that their inquiry expanded in the fall of 2019, based on a tip from Italian officials, to include a criminal investigation into suspicious financial dealings related to Mr. Trump. The specifics of the tip and how they handled the investigation remain unclear, but Mr. Durham brought no charges over it.

Mr. Durham used Russian intelligence memos — suspected by other U.S. officials of containing disinformation — to gain access to emails of an aide to George Soros, the financier and philanthropist who is a favorite target of the American right and Russian state media. Mr. Durham used grand jury powers to keep pursuing the emails even after a judge twice rejected his request for access to them. The emails yielded no evidence that Mr. Durham has cited in any case he pursued.

There were deeper internal fractures on the Durham team than previously known. The publicly unexplained resignation in 2020 of his No. 2 and longtime aide, Nora R. Dannehy, was the culmination of a series of disputes between them over prosecutorial ethics. A year later, two more prosecutors strongly objected to plans to indict a lawyer with ties to Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign based on evidence they warned was too flimsy, and one left the team in protest of Mr. Durham’s decision to proceed anyway. (A jury swiftly acquitted the lawyer.)




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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #28159705 - 01/27/23 11:19 AM (1 year, 9 hours ago)

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I can read the title of the thread. The judge said it was groundless in fact and law. Your views can not change that.



Enlil provided a good explanation why the case was dropped.

We now know the Steele Dossier was full of fake information about Trump, and can understand why he was upset.




Enlil mentioned one good explanation why the case was dropped. The judge on the other hand said the case had no basis in fact or law. That kind of covers all the bases.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Brian Jones]
    #28165317 - 01/31/23 02:02 AM (11 months, 20 days ago)

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The opposition research conducted by Fusion GPS on Donald Trump was in two distinct operations, each with a different client. The first research operation, from October 2015 to May 2016, was domestic research funded by The Washington Free Beacon. The second operation, from April 2016 to December 2016, was funded by the DNC and the Clinton campaign. Only the second operation involved the foreign research used to create the dossier.[49][50] From April 2016 into early May, the Washington Free Beacon and the Clinton Campaign/DNC were independently both clients of Fusion GPS.

An "agreed chronology" of dossier-related events is published in Appendix C of the Gubarev v Orbis case of October 30, 2020.[51]




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steele_dossier

The dossier was  a known lie and the FBI knew it was a lie but they fomented it on purpose, along with the corporate media - ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS as normal. None of that is up for debate. A judge, likely a unDemocratic party partisan tossed a lawsuit that does not change the facts about Clinton, DNC, and FBI lied for the purpose of lawfare against Trump.

And if there are brainwashed Democrat partisans that are still unwilling to admit that then their brainwashing is on display. No need to argue with them, just link the wikipedia.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: DonJuan7]
    #28165621 - 01/31/23 08:28 AM (11 months, 20 days ago)

LOL

Here we go again.

www.npr.org/2023/01/31/1152751742/trump-sues-woodward-interview-tapes

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Former President Donald Trump has made good on his threat to sue Bob Woodward over the Washington Post journalist's latest book, accusing him of releasing audio recordings of their interviews without his consent and seeking nearly $50 million in damages.

The lawsuit, filed Monday in the Northern District of Florida, also names publisher Simon & Schuster and its parent company, Paramount Global, as defendants. It accuses Woodward of the "systematic usurpation, manipulation, and exploitation of audio" in violation of Trump's contractual rights and copyright interests.




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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: DonJuan7]
    #28165690 - 01/31/23 09:13 AM (11 months, 20 days ago)

So your evidence is just a bunch of speculation and a link to wikipedia that states that many elements in the dossier were discredited but that also some were corroborated?

Consider me swayed! I'm heading out to register Republican right now!


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    #28166309 - 01/31/23 05:38 PM (11 months, 20 days ago)

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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: christopera]
    #28166434 - 01/31/23 06:51 PM (11 months, 20 days ago)

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LOL

Here we go again.

www.npr.org/2023/01/31/1152751742/trump-sues-woodward-interview-tapes

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Former President Donald Trump has made good on his threat to sue Bob Woodward over the Washington Post journalist's latest book, accusing him of releasing audio recordings of their interviews without his consent and seeking nearly $50 million in damages.

The lawsuit, filed Monday in the Northern District of Florida, also names publisher Simon & Schuster and its parent company, Paramount Global, as defendants. It accuses Woodward of the "systematic usurpation, manipulation, and exploitation of audio" in violation of Trump's contractual rights and copyright interests.







How did trump find lawyers willing to entertain this shit any more? Audio tapes made by Bob Woodward are owned by Bob Woodward. It seems like the judiciary has come to recognize trumps behavior and this judge will not only dismiss, but also sanction


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: koods]
    #28166472 - 01/31/23 07:07 PM (11 months, 20 days ago)

The dude can't stop the abuse of process; I hope someday Trump really has a case and it gets tossed because of his serial torts. One thing is for certain sanctions in civil litigation do little to stop this stuff.

The website "The Intercept" is being sued for the 3rd time by the prior owner of Blackwater for libel.....same case has been tossed before.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: christopera]
    #28167096 - 02/01/23 05:41 AM (11 months, 19 days ago)

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LOL

Here we go again.

www.npr.org/2023/01/31/1152751742/trump-sues-woodward-interview-tapes

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Former President Donald Trump has made good on his threat to sue Bob Woodward over the Washington Post journalist's latest book, accusing him of releasing audio recordings of their interviews without his consent and seeking nearly $50 million in damages.

The lawsuit, filed Monday in the Northern District of Florida, also names publisher Simon & Schuster and its parent company, Paramount Global, as defendants. It accuses Woodward of the "systematic usurpation, manipulation, and exploitation of audio" in violation of Trump's contractual rights and copyright interests.







One law professor described the case against Bob Woodward as "legally weak" and said it would go nowhere unless there was a specific agreement which prohibited audio release. More likely, Trump knows he wont win and just wants to continue playing the role of media victim.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Brian Jones]
    #28167231 - 02/01/23 08:37 AM (11 months, 19 days ago)

I think the lawsuit is just Trump's way of reminding his supporters he wants Woodward's head on a pike during the next insurrection.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Kizzle]
    #28167277 - 02/01/23 09:11 AM (11 months, 19 days ago)

It's telling that in all these lawsuits, what he says in public to his supporters is never repeated in front of a judge.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Randar]
    #28167322 - 02/01/23 10:10 AM (11 months, 19 days ago)

The lawyers he hires are not too eager to lose their licenses.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Enlil]
    #28167344 - 02/01/23 10:29 AM (11 months, 19 days ago)

You could have fooled me. You'd think he wouldn't want to burn through all his lawyers before he gets indicted.


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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Kizzle]
    #28167371 - 02/01/23 10:51 AM (11 months, 19 days ago)

With all due respect, the ability to fool you isn't indicative of any above-average skill set.


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With all due respect, the ability to fool you isn't indicative of any above-average skill set.






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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Enlil]
    #28167557 - 02/01/23 12:57 PM (11 months, 19 days ago)

:ohyou:


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