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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: koods]
#27788384 - 05/22/22 03:46 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Lucky for enlil, Jimmy Dore presented evidence from other lawyers.
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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#27788441 - 05/22/22 04:21 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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You still haven't answered my question.
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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Enlil] 1
#27788507 - 05/22/22 05:26 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Michael Sussman is currently on trial for making a false statement to the FBI when he told them he wasn't working for anyone when he reported that the Trump Organization had been in contact with Russia’s Alfa Bank.
Except he was working for Hillary, and she is the one who approved leaking this story to them, which turned out to be fake. Sussman even billed Hillary for the time he spent leaking the story to the FBI. After the story was leaked, she then Tweeted about it.
You don't think there's a problem with that?
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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#27788515 - 05/22/22 05:31 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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A problem? I asked you what makes you think trumps lawsuit has merit, and you're talking about some criminal case. I don't see how anything you said makes the Civil suit meritorious.
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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#27788558 - 05/22/22 06:09 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Michael Sussman is currently on trial for making a false statement to the FBI when he told them he wasn't working for anyone when he reported that the Trump Organization had been in contact with Russia’s Alfa Bank.
Except he was working for Hillary, and she is the one who approved leaking this story to them, which turned out to be fake. Sussman even billed Hillary for the time he spent leaking the story to the FBI. After the story was leaked, she then Tweeted about it.
You don't think there's a problem with that?
Why isn’t trump suing Susmann? You think people should be held accountable for someone else’s actions? If Susmann knew the story was false, then he committed fraud by charging Clinton. I don’t know why you think Clinton is to blame for her lawyers unscrupulous behavior. Oh wait you’re a partisan hack, that’s why.
Im also under the impression that defamation in the context of political discourse is almost impossible to litigate. I don’t think tweeting about something her lawyer told her even comes remotely close to it
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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: koods]
#27788570 - 05/22/22 06:16 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Trump is suing Hillary Clinton, the Democrats, their lawyers, former FBI employees and everyone connected to the 'Steele Dossier' for conspiracy to falsely accuse him of 'collusion' with Russia in 2016.
I don't understand how this isn't relevant.
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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#27788582 - 05/22/22 06:23 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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What sussman told the fbi is irrelevant. Statements to law enforcement aren't subject to defamation claims
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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Enlil]
#27788590 - 05/22/22 06:26 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Yes, but since Hillary had Sussman spread false information to defame Trump, wouldn't that be relevant?
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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#27788592 - 05/22/22 06:27 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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I think Trump would have to prove that the people involved knew what they were saying was false. The problem for Trump is there was plenty of circumstantial evidence that there was collusion.
The moment Trump asked Russia for help finding Hillary’s emails, he made the accusations plausible. And plausible accusations are not libel
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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#27788598 - 05/22/22 06:32 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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If true, relevant... still doesn't mean his case has merit though. You said his case had merit as if some smoking gun was found. This is all old news.
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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Enlil] 1
#27788694 - 05/22/22 07:59 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Even if it did have merit, it’s not like they’re gonna rule in favor of trump and vindicate this years long rigging hoax. Hell, the only reason his stupid ass isn’t behind bars is that the system will not implicate itself.
Neither Clinton nor Trump will ever go to jail despite their obvious crimes and folks should be mature enough to accept that.
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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: The Ecstatic]
#27788795 - 05/22/22 09:39 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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I'm not sure who "they" are in your post. Are you implying that a federal district judge is part of some grand government conspiracy?
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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#27789092 - 05/23/22 06:35 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: We'll see. From the sounds of the Durham investigation, Hillary was not only pushing false information, but there is growing evidence she pushed a narrative that was known to be false. If that turns out to be true, I say "lock her up!".

Shoot them both twice in the head and let's call it a day.
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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Enlil] 2
#27789193 - 05/23/22 08:39 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Enlil said: I'm not sure who "they" are in your post. Are you implying that a federal district judge is part of some grand government conspiracy?
I’m implying that judicial proceedings involving members of the ruling class are highly political.
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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: The Ecstatic]
#27789350 - 05/23/22 11:19 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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So your implying there's a conspiracy ?
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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Psilynut2] 1
#27789386 - 05/23/22 11:54 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Here's the latest:
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Everyone knows that politics is a contact sport and “dirty tricks” and “October Surprises” are routine ploys. But most of these result from opposition research that uncovers information linked to some true fact, such as a DUI arrest, an extramarital affair, a youthful indiscretion, or a cringeworthy photo with some undesirable person.
The Sussmann trial is helping to document a different approach by the Clinton campaign. According to Durham, they simply made up a stunning scale of false allegations and disinformation, unprecedented in presidential politics, in their attempt to sway the election...
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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Psilynut2] 1
#27790290 - 05/24/22 06:22 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Psilynut2 said: So your implying there's a conspiracy ?
Of course it’s a conspiracy. Our entire political system is a patronage network of bribery lol.
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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: The Ecstatic]
#27790508 - 05/24/22 10:13 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Hillary Clinton is untouchable trump dosent have a chance.
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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Mach z 800]
#27794488 - 05/26/22 10:43 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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I lost count, but there are at least a dozen motions to dismiss that case. My guess is that there won't be a whole lot of case left within a couple of months.
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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Enlil]
#27794847 - 05/27/22 08:48 AM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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I wonder how many of Trump's several thousand lawsuits ever made it to a courtroom. The ones that he initiated are probably just to get a press release
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