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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Ice9] 1
#28152913 - 01/22/23 09:40 PM (1 year, 4 days ago) |
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Good god. I was going to make a joke that he would do that, but he beat me to it
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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] 1
#28153102 - 01/23/23 02:01 AM (1 year, 4 days ago) |
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Lynnch said: Nobody will answer your question because it's a red herring that doesn't matter.
You don't think it matters if fake news about Trump was spread and they didn't allow him to sue? That's what this thread is about.
No it isn't.
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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#28153156 - 01/23/23 04:08 AM (1 year, 4 days ago) |
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See orangutan lawsuit. I would say keep digging that hole, but alas.
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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#28153212 - 01/23/23 05:38 AM (1 year, 4 days ago) |
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Lynnch said: Nobody will answer your question because it's a red herring that doesn't matter.
You don't think it matters if fake news about Trump was spread and they didn't allow him to sue? That's what this thread is about.
You just can't deal with the fact that a court has decided his lawsuit has no merit.your only answer to this is that it must be the deep state meddling. Meanwhile there are probably lots of other lawsuits that have set the precedence that made his lawsuit frivolous. Dishonest sore losers will always declare the other side must have cheated.
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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
#28153495 - 01/23/23 09:44 AM (1 year, 4 days ago) |
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A former high ranking FBI official has been arrested for laundering money for a Russian oligarch. But tell us more about how the FBI is in the tank for democrats
It appears the Russians had an inside man in the FBI during the Trump Russia investigation.
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The former top FBI agent for counterintelligence in New York has been arrested with a former Russian diplomat and charged with violating U.S. sanctions on Russia by providing services to the oligarch Oleg Deripaska, federal prosecutors announced Monday. The ex-agent, Charles McGonigal, is charged in U.S. District Court in Manhattan with another man, former Soviet and Russian diplomat Sergey Shestakov, in a five-count indictment, which also accuses them of money laundering. The alleged criminal acts occurred after McGonigal, 54, retired from the FBI in 2018. McGonigal separately was charged Monday in federal court in Washington, D.C., in connection with accepting $225,000 in cash — while working at the FBI — from a person who had business interests in Europe who had been an employee of a foreign intelligence service.
https://apple.news/AhSZ9BYOZSMyzVXSRSR3voQ
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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] 2
#28153580 - 01/23/23 10:31 AM (1 year, 4 days ago) |
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Did someone find the Steele Dossier to be true? If not, why couldn't Trump sue? Do you have a better reason than the one I gave?
For someone who claims to hate censorship, you sure do seem to have a dim and narrow view of the 1st amendment.
Before we even get to the procedural problems that led to this dismissal, it's important to note that public figures have a higher bar when seeking defamation claims. Trump would have had to prove that the steele dossier story was knowingly false and created with actual malice. He certainly couldn't prove the "knowingly false" part, as was clear in the complaint he filed.
None of that matters, of course, because Trump lost this case because he waited too long to file it. He waited until years after the statute of limitations had run. I promise that every single member of his legal team knew this important fact and that at least one of them told Trump as much. Nonetheless, he pushed forward with a frivolous lawsuit that was guaranteed to lose from the very beginning.
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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Enlil]
#28153586 - 01/23/23 10:38 AM (1 year, 4 days ago) |
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He had to take the hit. Can’t let the deep state know you’re on to them. This is all part of the plan. WIGGYWA
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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Brian Jones]
#28153685 - 01/23/23 11:43 AM (1 year, 4 days ago) |
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Lynnch said: Nobody will answer your question because it's a red herring that doesn't matter.
You don't think it matters if fake news about Trump was spread and they didn't allow him to sue? That's what this thread is about.
No it isn't.
Yes, it is. You should go back reread the OP.
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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
#28153694 - 01/23/23 11:48 AM (1 year, 4 days ago) |
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Lynnch said: Nobody will answer your question because it's a red herring that doesn't matter.
You don't think it matters if fake news about Trump was spread and they didn't allow him to sue? That's what this thread is about.
You just can't deal with the fact that a court has decided his lawsuit has no merit.your only answer to this is that it must be the deep state meddling. Meanwhile there are probably lots of other lawsuits that have set the precedence that made his lawsuit frivolous. Dishonest sore losers will always declare the other side must have cheated.
So answer the question: "Did someone find the Steele Dossier to be true? If not, why couldn't Trump sue?"
Nevermind, I see that Enlil just answered the question.
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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#28153839 - 01/23/23 01:21 PM (1 year, 4 days ago) |
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You don't think it matters if fake news about Trump was spread and they didn't allow him to sue? That's what this thread is about.
Thats a shockingly stupid question .
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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] 1
#28153968 - 01/23/23 02:29 PM (1 year, 4 days ago) |
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Lynnch said: Nobody will answer your question because it's a red herring that doesn't matter.
You don't think it matters if fake news about Trump was spread and they didn't allow him to sue? That's what this thread is about.
No it isn't.
Yes, it is. You should go back reread the OP.
I can read the title of the thread. The judge said it was groundless in fact and law. Your views can not change that.
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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Psilynut2]
#28154040 - 01/23/23 03:10 PM (1 year, 4 days ago) |
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You don't think it matters if fake news about Trump was spread and they didn't allow him to sue? That's what this thread is about.
Thats a shockingly stupid question .
Can you explain why? Or is "that was a poo poo head (shockingly stupid) question" all you got?
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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Brian Jones]
#28154048 - 01/23/23 03:13 PM (1 year, 4 days ago) |
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Brian Jones said: I can read the title of the thread. The judge said it was groundless in fact and law. Your views can not change that.
Enlil provided a good explanation why the case was dropped.
We now know the Steele Dossier was full of fake information about Trump, and can understand why he was upset.
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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#28154238 - 01/23/23 05:00 PM (1 year, 4 days ago) |
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So what? The Steele dossier was a report written by a contractor cataloguing information he was given by various sources. Nowhere does it claim the information is accurate.
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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: koods]
#28158687 - 01/26/23 04:39 PM (1 year, 1 day ago) |
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Pretty demanding article today in the NYT that John Durham and Bill Barr covered up some Trump financial crimes he discovered while he was special counsel.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/26/us/politics/durham-trump-russia-barr.html
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Mr. Barr and Mr. Durham never disclosed that their inquiry expanded in the fall of 2019, based on a tip from Italian officials, to include a criminal investigation into suspicious financial dealings related to Mr. Trump. The specifics of the tip and how they handled the investigation remain unclear, but Mr. Durham brought no charges over it.
Mr. Durham used Russian intelligence memos — suspected by other U.S. officials of containing disinformation — to gain access to emails of an aide to George Soros, the financier and philanthropist who is a favorite target of the American right and Russian state media. Mr. Durham used grand jury powers to keep pursuing the emails even after a judge twice rejected his request for access to them. The emails yielded no evidence that Mr. Durham has cited in any case he pursued.
There were deeper internal fractures on the Durham team than previously known. The publicly unexplained resignation in 2020 of his No. 2 and longtime aide, Nora R. Dannehy, was the culmination of a series of disputes between them over prosecutorial ethics. A year later, two more prosecutors strongly objected to plans to indict a lawyer with ties to Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign based on evidence they warned was too flimsy, and one left the team in protest of Mr. Durham’s decision to proceed anyway. (A jury swiftly acquitted the lawyer.)
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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#28159705 - 01/27/23 11:19 AM (1 year, 9 hours ago) |
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Brian Jones said: I can read the title of the thread. The judge said it was groundless in fact and law. Your views can not change that.
Enlil provided a good explanation why the case was dropped.
We now know the Steele Dossier was full of fake information about Trump, and can understand why he was upset.
Enlil mentioned one good explanation why the case was dropped. The judge on the other hand said the case had no basis in fact or law. That kind of covers all the bases.
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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Brian Jones]
#28165317 - 01/31/23 02:02 AM (11 months, 20 days ago) |
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The opposition research conducted by Fusion GPS on Donald Trump was in two distinct operations, each with a different client. The first research operation, from October 2015 to May 2016, was domestic research funded by The Washington Free Beacon. The second operation, from April 2016 to December 2016, was funded by the DNC and the Clinton campaign. Only the second operation involved the foreign research used to create the dossier.[49][50] From April 2016 into early May, the Washington Free Beacon and the Clinton Campaign/DNC were independently both clients of Fusion GPS.
An "agreed chronology" of dossier-related events is published in Appendix C of the Gubarev v Orbis case of October 30, 2020.[51]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steele_dossier
The dossier was a known lie and the FBI knew it was a lie but they fomented it on purpose, along with the corporate media - ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS as normal. None of that is up for debate. A judge, likely a unDemocratic party partisan tossed a lawsuit that does not change the facts about Clinton, DNC, and FBI lied for the purpose of lawfare against Trump.
And if there are brainwashed Democrat partisans that are still unwilling to admit that then their brainwashing is on display. No need to argue with them, just link the wikipedia.
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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: DonJuan7]
#28165621 - 01/31/23 08:28 AM (11 months, 20 days ago) |
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LOL
Here we go again.
www.npr.org/2023/01/31/1152751742/trump-sues-woodward-interview-tapes
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Former President Donald Trump has made good on his threat to sue Bob Woodward over the Washington Post journalist's latest book, accusing him of releasing audio recordings of their interviews without his consent and seeking nearly $50 million in damages.
The lawsuit, filed Monday in the Northern District of Florida, also names publisher Simon & Schuster and its parent company, Paramount Global, as defendants. It accuses Woodward of the "systematic usurpation, manipulation, and exploitation of audio" in violation of Trump's contractual rights and copyright interests.
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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: DonJuan7]
#28165690 - 01/31/23 09:13 AM (11 months, 20 days ago) |
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So your evidence is just a bunch of speculation and a link to wikipedia that states that many elements in the dossier were discredited but that also some were corroborated?
Consider me swayed! I'm heading out to register Republican right now!
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Re: Donald Trump sues Hillary Clinton over RussiaGate [Re: Randar] 1
#28166309 - 01/31/23 05:38 PM (11 months, 20 days ago) |
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I predict this dude will not be long for this forum.
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