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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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AI invents 40K chemical weapons molecules in 6 hours * 1
    #27701441 - 03/19/22 01:53 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

https://www.nature.com/articles/s42256-022-00465-9?fbclid=IwAR11_V1cd9SUxEvUfwrWMA7TUcroyYIY1nBDUL3KaS-8B4rG5MIqZCmjm0M

Not sure if this is the right place. Just found it interesting. Imagine AI trained to find psychedelic molecules with desired properties..


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Re: AI invents 40K chemical weapons molecules in 6 hours [Re: wxorx] * 1
    #27701446 - 03/19/22 02:02 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

The harder part is testing them for quality.

Inventing new ones is easy, I'll do it right now: what if LSD had a floro or chlorine group: 1F-LSD and 1C-LSD. Tada, two new ones. But are they toxic? See the floro groups are avoided in drugs that people use because they're thought to all be toxic. The chlorine ones might also be toxic. Even that doesn't say anything about the quality of their effects.

In order to judge quality, someone would have to actually take them and report back. And you couldn't just trust that one person, a lot of people would have to take it and report back.

Why is ALLAD so high quality? You wouldn't suspect that it would be based on its chemical structure. You'd instead think that ETHLAD would be. 2CE is amazing, DOET is probably amazing, so ETHLAD should be too, right? But no. It's ALLAD that's amazing. Yet Allylescaline is shit, and every other allyl based psychedelic I know of is also shit. But ALLAD isn't, ALLAD is fucking amazing, and everyone agrees. But why?

Would it be possible to determine that it was amazing without someone actually taking it? Until we know more about what psychedelics are actually doing in the brain, I doubt it's possible to predict which are going to be good or bad without actually using them.


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Re: AI invents 40K chemical weapons molecules in 6 hours [Re: nooneman] * 1
    #27701452 - 03/19/22 02:12 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Absolutely agree, but still this opens a lot of possibilities, and chained, trained AI engines with narrow specialized model datasets could possibly invent good candidates for exploration.

And there exist open source software to start with:
https://github.com/UnixJunkie/FASMIFRA, more details here:
https://jcheminf.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13321-021-00566-4


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