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Offlinewietstocker
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What about a LIVING TERRARIUM??
    #2770003 - 06/06/04 09:42 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I've recently begun accumulating different mosses and plants in a terrarium. The question is: would it be possible to place substrate below ground level to add mushrooms to the mix? Would sterilization be as important if I were to bury a colonized cake? Any comments or suggestions would be great.
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Re: What about a LIVING TERRARIUM?? [Re: wietstocker]
    #2770065 - 06/06/04 10:11 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Years ago i had a rather large glass endtable and it went thru cycles of real small shrooms ...I dont even remember what kind they were...
Try it ..


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Re: What about a LIVING TERRARIUM?? [Re: wietstocker]
    #2770467 - 06/07/04 12:52 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

some mosses and plants when decaying might have high levels of undesirable contams (trichodermas and everything else)...
but if you bury your substrate in a vase or in the soil you should see shrooms growing and not necessarily small...


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Re: What about a LIVING TERRARIUM?? [Re: wietstocker]
    #2771211 - 06/07/04 11:49 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

hehehehehe,
I misread the title and thought it said
"What about LIVING IN A TERRERIUM?"
HEHEHEH,
sorry, disregard my stupidity.


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Re: What about a LIVING TERRARIUM?? [Re: wietstocker]
    #2771256 - 06/07/04 12:17 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

well, i think its more work than its worth, unless you live in some big city area you have a huge terrarium right outside your door. there will be contem problems , there will be problems for the plants you want to use in the terratorium you will get problems gettin both the mushrooms and other plants work well together indoor with indoor contems and inside a container.


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Re: What about a LIVING TERRARIUM?? [Re: wietstocker]
    #2772126 - 06/07/04 05:18 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

once i have done exactly what you describe in your post, to place substrate below ground level and add mushrooms to the mix, yes, it was a vase with some random plant (not really a terrarium)...
it was in the balcony, a windy place so the shrooms would often split their caps (i've seen beautiful crosses) of dryness as they grow...
not really contam problems (if the substrate is _already_ colonized, the major drawback is that when the nutrients are gone, the shrooms will be gone too (or they will be bonsai mushrooms, thats funny to do. a 1cm tall mature cube is funny). and this rule will be appliable to a terrarium...
i think it would be hard but not impossible, to find out (living mosses would be good i think) plants that will fit the mushrooms fruiting conditions without dying and attracting contams...

living in a terrarium would be fun! =D


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Re: What about a LIVING TERRARIUM?? [Re: felixhigh]
    #2772135 - 06/07/04 05:21 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

sure its possible! Make a soil mix with peat/ manure and straw (as a food and to lighten the soil) Plants some plants ect and burry a broken up jar or cake.


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Re: What about a LIVING TERRARIUM?? [Re: Gr0wer]
    #2772974 - 06/07/04 10:19 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

well, then i would rather make an outdoor bed! =)


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Re: What about a LIVING TERRARIUM?? [Re: felixhigh]
    #2773390 - 06/08/04 12:28 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

outdoor beds aresnt as simple as there told to be. Worms and/or greenmold can take over fast.


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Re: What about a LIVING TERRARIUM?? [Re: Gr0wer]
    #2773853 - 06/08/04 03:54 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

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outdoor beds aresnt as simple as there told to be. Worms and/or greenmold can take over fast.




I have to say, every outdoor patch I have made was easier than anything else I have done. I have never seen green mold outdoors, and never had a problem with worms. I actually don't see how worms could be a problem anyway, since they don't feed on mycelium. I don't think it gets much more simple than soaking manure/straw, then spawning with a spent casing...

You have had success spawning un-pasteurized substrate indoors, and failed with an outdoor patch?


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Re: What about a LIVING TERRARIUM?? [Re: wietstocker]
    #2774011 - 06/08/04 08:58 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

It can be done.


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Re: What about a LIVING TERRARIUM?? [Re: ATWAR]
    #2774869 - 06/08/04 03:32 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Well the worms eat the shit. Im not sure if the outdor pathces wil work i only made them 1-2 weeks ago and just inspected and found some worms crawling aorund, im not sure if there helping or not buy joshua says i might be to wet which would make sence since its been raining allot. The only time i had greenmold is when i spawned using a badly geenmold contamed casing and it was early on the season so i think the myc was a bit weak from the low temps.


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Re: What about a LIVING TERRARIUM?? [Re: wietstocker]
    #2775281 - 06/08/04 05:59 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

for what its worth, i tossed a good half cake of colinized redmillet in with a houseplant and low and behold the damb thing sprouted up some small shrooms.... right in my front window LOL


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Re: What about a LIVING TERRARIUM?? [Re: MeSaUsA]
    #2776966 - 06/09/04 05:05 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: What about a LIVING TERRARIUM?? [Re: matts]
    #2777028 - 06/09/04 05:57 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Exactly matts.

I think GrOwer is posting information he has limited experience with.

Spwned with a contaminated casing, then says it's not easy based on the failure of that patch. IMO, it really doesn't get much easier than making an outdoor bed and letting mother nature take over. Especially with Ps. Cubensis.


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Re: What about a LIVING TERRARIUM?? [Re: wietstocker]
    #2792465 - 06/14/04 03:05 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

ok, I've mulled over the living terrarium idea, and I've come up with buy a cow


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Re: What about a LIVING TERRARIUM?? [Re: HarveyWalbanger]
    #2793760 - 06/15/04 02:43 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

actually, if the thoughts are on such scale harvey, we all live in a huge terrarium, since cubes are cosmopolitan... =D
my brother likes better to hunt shrooms...
i prefer to grow them and to play god. =)


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Re: What about a LIVING TERRARIUM?? [Re: felixhigh]
    #2814508 - 06/21/04 05:27 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I had a rainforest exhibit, took one of my panaeolus isolations that didn't fruit at all in my normal fruiting chamber, and although it didn't do excellently, it fruited quite easily in the rainforest tank. By rainforest tank I mean a full ecosystem with thriving plant and aquatic life with 80 percent humidity as well.


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Re: What about a LIVING TERRARIUM?? [Re: sci33]
    #2814635 - 06/21/04 06:14 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I think worms aren't problem. They eat bad things in the soil and shits good things to the soil. I say this as a veterinary medicine student. And worms make holes that make air exchange easy.

and don't forget what you all do in a terraium is just imitate the conditions of mother nature. As you know we learn from mother nature because she has the best conditions in universe. So in my opinion if you give the part of nature (good old myceliums) to her mother's arms she will take care of it. If it gets mold then it is because of it must have molds for any reason.

It seems great idea to put some plant into the terrarium. Plant can take care of co2 and o2 exchange and humidity. Just be careful on plant select.

As as second thought you can put a lizard in another container into the terrarium if you can buy to grow. an animal, plant and mushrooms will grow friendly :=)

if anything seems not ok in my sentences it is just because of :rastamon: jamaican people :=) just want to share my thoughts :=)


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Re: What about a LIVING TERRARIUM?? [Re: wietstocker]
    #2814647 - 06/21/04 06:22 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

this might be the way to go for the elusive indoor morel grow bc of their nutrient exchange with plants in their enviornment (from what i've read)


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