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Thanks to both of you. wow, that's alot cheaper than any of us thought, but if that's in ' the West' like you said, that is pretty close to Oregon, and Washington, where a person can pick Liberty caps pretty easily. In our area no such pcilisybin type mushrooms grow wildly. Of course wild hemp plants ( other wise known as 'ditchweed') grows everywhere, but that's another story, lol. Possibly by the time any such available material would make it 'market' so to speak, the various 'middlemen' would have the price jacked up to closer to what we were guessing. I don't know. Are there any forum members out there reading this, from the plains states, who might know the answer? We would appreciate your input. thank you to everyone who helped, Rxwoman.