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burying tips is called "air layering".
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Air layering works great. If I have a shrub I want to propagate I’ll pull a branch down to the soil and put a brick on the branch. Keep it moist and it’ll root after a couple of weeks. You can do the same with a stem. Make a few lengthwise cuts in the bark and wrap the wound with moist coir and Saran Wrap. Keep it moist and roots will develop at the wound. You can use rooting powder to better your odds.
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: The Tao]
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Oh that’s cool I didn’t know that was the name for branches rooting naturally.
I’ve only heard of air layering when people were talking about wrapping part of a tree branch until it rooted. That seems like it would be a much better cloning method since you have the entire plant powering it instead of chopping a piece off but I guess it would be more common if it made a big difference.
Yeah the led advertising is ridiculous, I could understand quoting some sort of equivalency but even if that was the excuse a 100w led is nowhere near 1000w anything. Well maybe cfl lol.
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: The Tao]
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I'm not sure if it would work TBH. While air layering is a thing, sap flow is also a thing. You can't just put an apical stem in the dirt and expect it to draw nutrients backwards up from the buried tip. I think it would need a growth tip out of the soil and the buried/air-layered section would be like a checkpoint along the vascular system, but I think it would have to remain flowing in one direction. I've been wanting to do that for years to bend cannabis into a heart shape instead of a horseshoe. But IIRC I got into grafting because I read that the idea technically couldn't be done without grafting.
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Icon] 1
#27687540 - 03/08/22 01:33 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Thai haze x skunk #1...
They flower.... they grow....they flower.....they still keep growing 
I started flowering them around 45 days ago a lot smaller than this.
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#27687560 - 03/08/22 01:42 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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This little blob above my thumb looks like an egg sac of some kind. I’m seeing them all over but haven’t noticed anything moving on the plants yet.

Here’s a couple under magnification.

Any ideas or nothing to worry about?
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Icon]
#27687567 - 03/08/22 01:45 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Icon said: I'm not sure if it would work TBH. While air layering is a thing, sap flow is also a thing. You can't just put an apical stem in the dirt and expect it to draw nutrients backwards up from the buried tip. I think it would need a growth tip out of the soil and the buried/air-layered section would be like a checkpoint along the vascular system, but I think it would have to remain flowing in one direction. I've been wanting to do that for years to bend cannabis into a heart shape instead of a horseshoe. But IIRC I got into grafting because I read that the idea technically couldn't be done without grafting.
I’ve been doing it for years. It works. You don’t bury the tip. https://www.finegardening.com/project-guides/gardening-basics/making-more-shrubs
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#27687617 - 03/08/22 02:29 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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New cloner, same pump.
Man, those eggs on them stem would freek me out
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Man, those eggs on them stem would freek me out
Yeah, I’m not feeling very warm and fuzzy about it, but still not sure what they are. Broad or russet mite eggs would be on the leaves though right?
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The Tao said: I’ve been doing it for years. It works. You don’t bury the tip. https://www.finegardening.com/project-guides/gardening-basics/making-more-shrubs
Yea I'm not questioning that. Tomatoes do that readily and I'm sure cannabis could too. But it sounded like AKA was talking about burying the tip. "if you buried the top. . . horseshoe shaped stem with both ends rooted".
@brain bulb idk what it could be but it's not broad/russet eggs. The mites themselves are smaller than the head of a trichome and their eggs much smaller than that.
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Icon]
#27687697 - 03/08/22 03:27 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Ok, thanks. Doing some defoliating to see if I notice anything else that may help ID. Kind of has the same creamy color as the neem oil. Wonder if it has anything to do with that.
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Those are monsters derrayled, how long do they usually continue growing? Mine went about 7 weeks into flip.
Pulled my outdoor clones, just realized that plant is almost a year old. The original was one of the plants from my first grow, and I think these were clones of a clone. Prob going right to the hash pile.

So hard not to chop the gorilla zkittles, I took some little lowers off today. It’s weird how different the flash makes them look.

Finally gave up waiting to see if it was female and put the bigger Laoberry into a 3 gallon. Gonna flip on Friday. First time I used perlite in a long while, it makes a huge difference. Felt like the feed went right through it compared to straight coir.

Long skinny c99 cola. It’s 8.5 weeks, seems done but I’m waiting to see if it swells.
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: A.k.a]
#27687823 - 03/08/22 05:17 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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That pink zkittles
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@BB That definitely looks like something that's pupating. It almost looks like a maggot.
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: A.k.a]
#27688180 - 03/09/22 12:30 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: Those are monsters derrayled, how long do they usually continue growing? Mine went about 7 weeks.
I'm honestly not sure, this is the first time growing a Thai haze but it's going the long haul it seems.
I thought it was done stretching but then it kicked into gear and stretched even more.
Your c99 looks nice, I haven't grown Cindy in a long time.
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: DERRAYLD]
#27688287 - 03/09/22 05:33 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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BB - lil blobs may be sweet tasting resin blobs I have a few ladies that make weird stalk blobs similar to that If you taste it will be crunchy and sweet, like natural candy or sugars being released
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or it could taste like a maggot baby
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rhizoRider said: BB - lil blobs may be sweet tasting resin blobs I have a few ladies that make weird stalk blobs similar to that If you taste it will be crunchy and sweet, like natural candy or sugars being released
Ok. I didn’t taste them, but when removing some yesterday they were crunchy. Guess I’ll bite the bullet and taste one when my lights come back on.
I did a bunch of defoliating yesterday trying to look for any other signs of pests, but other than the fungus gnats under the canopy I didn’t see anything. Even analyzed a bunch of leaves under my microscope since some aren’t visible to the naked eye, but nothing.
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@A.k.a
That Gorilla Zkittles looks tasty! Hope the Zkittles I have coming in gets some nice color like that.
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Yeah aka, those all look very good. Love the gorilla zkittlez auto. She turned out so pretty and I wonder how taste and smell is personally. So my google does this for me. It's the past 2 years or so bunched up.
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